Prospect Info: 15th Overall, Michael Brandsegg-Nygaard

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

 

[ShanahanMan]

I didn't watch him a lot, but any time I did, I was pretty impressed with his offensive drive. Hard nosed, play driver with a great shot. Seemed like he was all over the puck, both offensively and defensively. I'm surprised people are upset with this pick.

Not a terrible pick, just there were way better options on the board.

 

[Ezekial]

Of course nothing wrong with 2 way, but when you are called 2 way, that means you aren't as good offensively. Who is going to score for us when we keep drafting the same type of player? The only outlier in recent times is ASP.

What a joke

Lucas Raymond is a 2 way player.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

MBN flosses his tooth gap with Zadina.

Great shot, straight line game to the net. Great neutral zone D. Really hard on the forecheck. Physical. I've compared him to a more skilled Lawson Crouse and Ivan Barbashev. Cory Pronman mentioned him as similar to Ryan Leonard as a prospect with a little less skill.

I mean, I'm sold when I saw that first clip of him on a breakaway he didn't shoot it into the logo.

 

[izlez]

What a joke

Lucas Raymond is a 2 way player.

Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Larkin

 

[lilidk]

What a joke

Lucas Raymond is a 2 way player.

Raymond? Zetterberg for sure

 

[raymond23]

Kid has swagger kinda like Raymond. I'm into it

 

[jkutswings]

I think we just need to accept that Steve is not looking to build a team that scores a lot of goals

Which is a logical response to repeatedly getting bent over by the draft lottery. If you're never getting an Art Ross candidate, build a team that's impossible to score on and win that way.

 

[Oddbob]

What a joke

Lucas Raymond is a 2 way player.

Raymond isn't 2 way in my opinion. I think he is kind of weak in his own end.

 

[schuelma24]

Not a terrible pick, just there were way better options on the board.

You literally had him as one of your 2 picks 2 hours ago,

Trollllllllllllllllllllll

 

[ArGarBarGar]

….

I know some of these words…

 

[Ezekial]

Raymond? Zetterberg for sure

You don't have to be Selke level to be considered a 2 way.

 

[13to40]

Got the guy I thought they would. Happy with the pick. Good overall pick, for a #15 OA, he is a real solid pick.

Could they have taken a chance with an Eiserman; high risk high reward type player, of course, but this Norwegian kid is a real gamer. Exactly the type of player w you need on a Stanley cup winning roster.

Yzerman yet again takes a winner in the first round.

 

[Ezekial]

Raymond isn't 2 way in my opinion. I think he is kind of weak in his own end.

Well you think 2 way means you aren't very good offensively so your opinion is weak.

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Love it.

 

[Oddbob]

You don't have to be Selke level to be considered a 2 way.

Yeah, but you need to be good. Raymond was -12 while DeBrincat who isn't defensive either was +1 and Larkin was +5. Ray was among the worst +/- on the team.

 

[ricky0034]

What a joke

Lucas Raymond is a 2 way player.

eh yes and no

is he a 2 way player? yes, but he's also a good example of the point they were making

guys like Raymond(or Benson as another recent example) that have high offensive potential and are also good defensively aren't described as two way players in their scouting reports, they'll instead get a bunch of praise for their offensive game and then their defensive game and side stuff like physicality or compete level will also get praised as applicable

as opposed to them being kinda lumped together and them getting literally called a 2 way guy, or it being reversed and the side stuff like physicality and compete level getting the primary mention alongside their defense and then the offensive skillset being mentioned as more of an afterthought

it's a subtle distinction but it's definitely a thing

 

[ShanahanMan]

You literally had him as one of your 2 picks 2 hours ago,

Trollllllllllllllllllllll

That’s why I said I’m good with the pick. I expected him to be there at 15. Eiserman i expected top 10, even top 5. On a team desperate for elite scoring I obviously would have preferred him.

Also, I’ve been here almost 20 years, your account is less than a year. take a hike .

 

[Oddbob]

Well you think 2 way means you aren't very good offensively so your opinion is weak.

No, I didn't say anything of the sort. When you are called a 2-way player that means offence isn't your main known attribute. If you are known for being offensive then they would described you as such.

 

[Ezekial]

Yeah, but you need to be good. Raymond was -12 while DeBrincat who isn't defensive either was +1 and Larkin was +5. Ray was among the worst +/- on the team.

One of those players is trusted by the coach to close out games defensively and one isn't. I can show you scouting reports from his draft year that literally call him a 200ft or 2 way player.

 

[jfrank21]

And those highlights are against MEN. I have no idea how someone can watch that and say he lacks skill or upside.

MBN flosses his tooth gap with Zadina.

Great shot, straight line game to the net. Great neutral zone D. Really hard on the forecheck. Physical.

 

[Oddbob]

One of those players is trusted by the coach to close out games defensively and one isn't. I can show you scouting reports from his draft year that literally call him a 200ft or 2 way player.

Umm Larkin was out there as well and played more and was +5 vs -12. Why do I care what scouts from his draft year said? In the NHL he is definitely nothing special at all in his own end.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

MBN does so many things right you can't help but not love him. He has that pro "feel" where he does all the puck possession things right. He doesn't waste a ton of energy but he always seems to end up with the puck on his stick... Next thing you know he's forcing possession in the offensive zone and he's got the offensive chops to produce numbers with it. Danielson was overlooked a lot but he's also very much like that, except much faster lol

There's a reason he was so solidly rated across he entire actual and armchair scouting universe. Plays an NHL style game but he's not a no-hands grinder. Modern power forward who can stick on line 1, 2 or 3. Most likely a winger but there's a chance he can play C too

I actually really like the Perron comparable for him, probably more of a puck hound version with lesser playmaking but how can you not want that considering the team we are building? Gonna be f***ing hard to play against that's for sure

 

[jkutswings]

Also, I’ve been here almost 20 years, your account is less than a year. take a hike .

Your argument is that you have tenure as a wet blanket?

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

And those highlights are against MEN. I have no idea how someone can watch that and say he lacks skill or upside.

He was dominating the J20 in Sweden with 12 points in 7 games and was brought up to Modo. MBN didn't get a lot of icetime to start the year but when he was trusted more he started scoring. He was the best forward on the men's WC team. The best forward on the U20 WJC team. And he was probably his team's best forward in Allsvenskan in the postseason. It's not like that's a trash league.

Would any of you guys here feel better if we called him a Gabriel Landeskog-lite? Would that make you happier with the pick?