15-16 HFBoards Yahoo Fantasy Premier Keeper League - IX

[CRDragon]

Yeah, I just think you could've done better for those players. I wasn't ready to part with Crosby for it, but I think you could've done better than Landeskog.

Landeskog << Crosby (even now) IMO...

Honestly, I think Landeskog can be matched up to Crosby this year considering Crosby's struggles. Considering we're in a head to head league, certain categories give Landeskog a fair advantage over Crosby.

This year alone:
Crosby 29pts/37games, Landeskog 27pts/35 games (Equal)
If this was rewinded 7 games ago, when negotiations long started between Jannik and myself, Crosby would have only had 19 points in 30 games and Landeskog 24 points in 28 games (Would have looked favorably for Landeskog)
Both minus players (Equal)
Crosby 20 PIM, Landeskog 38 PIM (Landeskog)
Crosby 13 PPP, Landeskog 8 PPP (Crosby)
Crosby 3.05 shots/game, Landeskog 2.43 shots/game (Crosby)
Crosby 16 blocks, Landeskog 35 blocks (Landeskog)

Landeskog brings in an element not many fantasy players can offer. He is ranked as one of the highest for forwards in terms of blocks (7th in the NHL)...and takes a good amount of shots (career avg 2.85 per game, prorated to 234 per season) and about 0.825 PIM per game...(which is about 68 in a full season).

It's tough to let him go, he's been a key keeper for me since his rookie year. I thought the deal made sense for both sides, it's not likely for me to keep any of the players I traded for and JannikAtTheDisco gets a young long term keeper (Landeskog is only 23...and heading to his prime).

 

[Canucker]

Honestly, I think Landeskog can be matched up to Crosby this year considering Crosby's struggles. Considering we're in a head to head league, certain categories give Landeskog a fair advantage over Crosby.

This year alone:
Crosby 29pts/37games, Landeskog 27pts/35 games (Equal)
If this was rewinded 7 games ago, when negotiations long started between Jannik and myself, Crosby would have only had 19 points in 30 games and Landeskog 24 points in 28 games (Would have looked favorably for Landeskog)
Both minus players (Equal)
Crosby 20 PIM, Landeskog 38 PIM (Landeskog)
Crosby 13 PPP, Landeskog 8 PPP (Crosby)
Crosby 3.05 shots/game, Landeskog 2.43 shots/game (Crosby)
Crosby 16 blocks, Landeskog 35 blocks (Landeskog)

Landeskog brings in an element not many fantasy players can offer. He is ranked as one of the highest for forwards in terms of blocks (7th in the NHL)...and takes a good amount of shots (career avg 2.85 per game, prorated to 234 per season) and about 0.825 PIM per game...(which is about 68 in a full season).

It's tough to let him go, he's been a key keeper for me since his rookie year. I thought the deal made sense for both sides, it's not likely for me to keep any of the players I traded for and JannikAtTheDisco gets a young long term keeper (Landeskog is only 23...and heading to his prime).

Key words...matched up to Crosby this year. I like Landeskog, he's a good fantasy player, but lets be honest here...you got a pretty good deal for a bunch of quality players, who I'd be surprised if you didn't end up keeping at least one of.

 

[CRDragon]

Key words...matched up to Crosby this year. I like Landeskog, he's a good fantasy player, but lets be honest here...you got a pretty good deal for a bunch of quality players, who I'd be surprised if you didn't end up keeping at least one of.

Would you really be surprised? And like I said, this is a head to head league, Landeskog has his valuable strengths in comparison to Crosby when it comes to category to category matchups. Could you find another forward that can produce at a 65 points pace, top 10 in blocks as a forward and have 68+ PIMs in a season?

Landeskog brings in an element not many fantasy players can offer. He is ranked as one of the highest for forwards in terms of blocks (7th in the NHL)...and takes a good amount of shots (career avg 2.85 per game, prorated to 234 per season) and about 0.825 PIM per game...(which is about 68 in a full season).

My keeper list as of now is the following:

Giroux
Quick
Fleury
Wheeler
Burns
Weber
Kucherov
Klingberg (rookie)
Mzarek (rookie)

 

[ArtursSilovsShirt]

Yea there's no chance CRD keepers a 60-70 point 34 year old haha. There was only a small small chance I'd keep Sharp, and I'm the worst team in the league.

 

[VanillaCoke]

3 goalie keepers interesting

 

[Canucker]

I got confused with y2k's old pool where we had 8 keepers and 2 rookies...I still think if Dallas continues the offensive onslaught he may make it difficult for you to not keep him. All I'm saying is, you got a good deal to make a push for this year, i don't think many will disagree there.

 

[Canucks LB]

Crd trying to take on arms. And balls for the title. Interesting

 

[CRDragon]

Crd trying to take on arms. And balls for the title. Interesting

This should have been expected after Balls was loaded up for a big run. I had to do something, have to defend my title.

 

[Balls Mahoney]

Aw that's cute. CRD trying to remain relevant as he desperately tries to hang on to a playoff spot.

 

[CRDragon]

Aw that's cute. CRD trying to remain relevant as he desperately tries to hang on to a playoff spot.

that's weakkk, balls

 

[VanillaCoke]

Trade me a keeper for a bunch of crap too pls

 

[Balls Mahoney]

that's weakkk, balls

That was pretty weak, I agree. I apologize, that wasn't clever or funny, that was just mean. I was trying to summon up the energy for a witty insult but I'm finding it difficult to care about your team this year. Arsmaster on the other hand...

 

[CRDragon]

That was pretty weak, I agree. I apologize, that wasn't clever or funny, that was just mean. I was trying to summon up the energy for a witty insult but I'm finding it difficult to care about your team this year. Arsmaster on the other hand...

Good. I don't mind sliding under the radar

 

[BrockH]

1 - Mcdavid going down was just awful luck, and this can't be debated. I traded a ton of pieces for a generation talent, just to get injured moments later.

2 - Top 4 is a bit much I agree, got a bit hyped. That being said, with Mcdavid, IMO he would give me the points I need right now to be in a playoff spot. I am very close.

3 - My team is underrated, nearly 95% of the people here have me as a bottom 2/3 team, which is not going to be the case at all. I made some excellent waiver claims, and adds overall that have carried the load until my big guns got going (which they are right now).

Ramo especially was a out of nowhere pick up who has been great in the past month, I also believe Reimer is a astute pick up, and will play a vital role down the stretch.

Is that not fair brock?

1 - I don't think you're getting the point. No one has said losing McDavid wasn't bad luck. You said it was the "only" luck. You said that in response to a conversation, which you quoted, where several people said you were lucky in a different way. That means you are telling all of us that we are wrong.

2/3 - Fair enough, that's possible. With regards to 3, we're saying that on the basis of your roto ranking (which is 11th). We will see what happens, maybe you've improved a lot with these pickups you're talking about, but based on your performance so far, you're a bottom third team that's lucky to be in 7th.

 

[BrockH]

Well apparently I couldn't have gotten more then Landeskog cause I didn't receive one other offer over a 6 week period lol, but of course you guys speak up now!

Brock I would have seriously considered Forsberg, it's too bad you just ignored my initial offer for 5 days instead of responding with that idea.

You posted Dec 13th saying you would "probably hold off to around the New Year...but if I'm still out of it at that point I'll definitely be helping someone..." Near as I can tell you didn't confirm you were looking to sell till Dec 27th. In that post you said "star player" and then you made the Crosby offer on Dec 28th, cancelling it on the 30th (2 days, not 5). I was out of town for the holidays till the 29th. So yeah, I ignored it for a day while I thought about it, then it was cancelled. I might have asked what you meant by "star" (I thought Crosby/Ovechkin/Stamkos/etc), but giving people less than 3 days notice during the holiday season isn't exactly ideal if you're trying to maximize return.

It's not the end of the world, and I agree, you got something back for a package of rental players. Better than nothing, which is always a risk with rentals. My comments about value weren't meant to be criticism, at least no more so than when I comment on any other trade.

 

[BrockH]

Honestly, I think Landeskog can be matched up to Crosby this year considering Crosby's struggles. Considering we're in a head to head league, certain categories give Landeskog a fair advantage over Crosby.

This year alone:
Crosby 29pts/37games, Landeskog 27pts/35 games (Equal)
If this was rewinded 7 games ago, when negotiations long started between Jannik and myself, Crosby would have only had 19 points in 30 games and Landeskog 24 points in 28 games (Would have looked favorably for Landeskog)
Both minus players (Equal)
Crosby 20 PIM, Landeskog 38 PIM (Landeskog)
Crosby 13 PPP, Landeskog 8 PPP (Crosby)
Crosby 3.05 shots/game, Landeskog 2.43 shots/game (Crosby)
Crosby 16 blocks, Landeskog 35 blocks (Landeskog)

Landeskog brings in an element not many fantasy players can offer. He is ranked as one of the highest for forwards in terms of blocks (7th in the NHL)...and takes a good amount of shots (career avg 2.85 per game, prorated to 234 per season) and about 0.825 PIM per game...(which is about 68 in a full season).

It's tough to let him go, he's been a key keeper for me since his rookie year. I thought the deal made sense for both sides, it's not likely for me to keep any of the players I traded for and JannikAtTheDisco gets a young long term keeper (Landeskog is only 23...and heading to his prime).

Who would you rather have if you were Jannik. Crosby or Landeskog?

 

[CRDragon]

Who would you rather have if you were Jannik. Crosby or Landeskog?

Is this a logical question though? Was Crosby available for Sharp, Cammelleri, Zetterberg, and McDonaugh?
The better question may be whether he'd prefer Forsberg or Landeskog.

 

[VanillaCoke]

I'll also trade a package for a keeper if anyone else is interested.
P

 

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Eberle is available for picks.

 

[BrockH]

Is this a logical question though? Was Crosby available for Sharp, Cammelleri, Zetterberg, and McDonaugh?
The better question may be whether he'd prefer Forsberg or Landeskog.

I'm not asking the question because Jannik had a choice between Crosby or Landeskog. I said there's a large gap between Landeskog and Crosby in the context of value for Jannik's team going forward, and fair value was between the two. You responded with a comparison of Crosby to Landeskog successfully illustrating that they are equal this season. I was responding to that comparison (I'd argue if anything that making that comparison was the part that wasn't logical).

FYI, I agree the better comparison would have been if you compared Landeskog to Forsberg, and your analysis did convince me that Landeskog has more value than I realized (the blocks are big IMO).

 

[BrockH]

I'll also trade a package for a keeper if anyone else is interested.
P

What would the package involve? That, or who are your keepers, so I can figure out who's left over?

 

[VanillaCoke]

Parise
Vatanen
Subban
Bjugstad
Nash
Hoffman
Stamkos
Dubnyk (I guess)

 

[Balls Mahoney]

Big Daddy Mahoney is looking for trades brahs.

I'm looking for a defenseman, high end rental players or picks.

On the block

Matt Duchene
Ryan Getzlol
Jaromir Jagr
Kevin Hayes
Evander Kane
Steve Mason

Awwww yeah.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Yahoo user interface annoys me

 

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Eberle is available for picks.

A potential keeper for a 3rd or a combo of later picks. C'mon people!