GDT: #14 | Flyers at Lightning | Thursday, November 7, 2024 | 7:00 PM | ESPN+/Hulu

[deadhead]

Potential is factored in when you’re making your tier list. What you’re saying here is counting it twice. It’s like when people insisted Xavier Worthy had to move up draft boards because he ran a great 40. We already knew he was fast. We already knew Luchanko was young.

No. What I'm saying is by May or June, when they did their final evaluation, they had them in the same tier, and potential is what bridged the gap between their on ice performance. Jett is 8 months younger than Buium, and was still filling out at 17. So they would have given potential more weight with him. Since they're projecting, they probably put as much weight on improvement between October and April as overall performance.

Buium's last 10 games in 2023-24: 2-4 6. Includes 6 PO games. Toughest stretch of his season.
Don't know how Jett played his last 10-20 games.

No then they still made the wrong move. This years draft is C heavy, last years draft was D heavy. In those specific scenarios you will almost always have a prospect who is very good fall. In this D heavy draft it was Buium. They should have picked him with the knowledge that next year they can get their 1C prospect in a C heavy draft (having 3 1st round picks no less).

But that rules against reaching for a center as an explanation.
Since they'd have another shot at the apple.

 

[BernieParent]

Me in the game predictor thread to date:

 

[VladDrag]

Tampa going easy in the shootout sums up @VladDrag breakaway attempt last night

Eh, it was 11:30 at night we were 7-2 with 4 mins left. Ididn’t want to embarrass them

 

[JojoTheWhale]

No. What I'm saying is by May or June, when they did their final evaluation, they had them in the same tier, and potential is what bridged the gap between their on ice performance. Jett is 8 months younger than Buium, and was still filling out at 17. So they would have given potential more weight with him. Since they're projecting, they probably put as much weight on improvement between October and April as overall performance.

Buium's last 10 games in 2023-24: 2-4 6. Includes 6 PO games. Toughest stretch of his season.
Don't know how Jett played his last 10-20 games.

Every time you explain this it gets worse. Now we're prioritizing narrow bands of play and assuming growth.

This process is shit. I'm sorry. It's smartest guy in the room syndrome.

 

[BernieParent]

No then they still made the wrong move. This years draft is C heavy, last years draft was D heavy. In those specific scenarios you will almost always have a prospect who is very good fall. In this D heavy draft it was Buium. They should have picked him with the knowledge that next year they can get their 1C prospect in a C heavy draft (having 3 1st round picks no less).

Sorry for my pedantry but the Flyers only had 2 picks, with them flipping Edmonton's 2024 pick to this year. It is looking good early for them to get a much better spot than 31st.

 

[renberg]

None of this means they're right. Projecting 18 year olds is a really difficult task

Very true but certain skill levels have to be present in a prospect. In this case, the ability to score. Luchanko doesn’t seem to have a signature shot. In Juniors, to a degree, a player can get away with that deficiency with speed and size. After that level, no chance. Perhaps Briere& Co. think that he can be taught that. I’m not so sure that it can happen.

 

[deadhead]

Every time you explain this it gets worse. Now we're prioritizing narrow bands of play and assuming growth.

This process is shit. I'm sorry. It's smartest guy in the room syndrome.

No. I don't know how they made their decision.

But you either have to assume Briere took a clearly inferior player just b/c he wanted a center, or they really liked Jett. We know they liked Jett more than Helenius.

Now whether they should have ranked Jett that high (or Buium that low) is a different question.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

No. I don't know how they made their decision.

But you either have to assume Briere took a clearly inferior player just b/c he wanted a center, or they really liked Jett. We know they liked Jett more than Helenius.

Now whether they should have ranked Jett that high (or Buium that low) is a different question.

Or the man answered a question honestly and then tried to walk it back the next day because he realized it did him no favors to say it. One of those seems a hell of a lot simpler than the rest.

 

[CerpinTaxt]

No then they still made the wrong move. This years draft is C heavy, last years draft was D heavy. In those specific scenarios you will almost always have a prospect who is very good fall. In this D heavy draft it was Buium. They should have picked him with the knowledge that next year they can get their 1C prospect in a C heavy draft (having 3 1st round picks no less).

This makes too much sense so naturally the Flyers will do the opposite

 

[FLYguy3911]

Jett went goalless in his last 16 games (no playoffs) with Guelph so we can throw that theory out the window.

 

[deadhead]

Jett's went goalless in his last 16 games (no playoffs) with Guelph so we can throw that theory out the window.

Yes, but he already has 2 goals in 5 games. So maybe he learned to shoot in Flyers' camp.

 

[Boocowski]

I'm starting to wonder if maybe these Russian goalies are starting to figure out NHL hockey. Both of them now have looked better as of late. Maybe an illusion. but maybe we just need patience.

 

[deadhead]

I'm starting to wonder if maybe these Russian goalies are starting to figure out NHL hockey. Both of them now have looked better as of late. Maybe an illusion. but maybe we just need patience.

It's one reason they wanted Kolosov to come over and play in the AHL.

 

[CerpinTaxt]

I'm starting to wonder if maybe these Russian goalies are starting to figure out NHL hockey. Both of them now have looked better as of late. Maybe an illusion. but maybe we just need patience.

Hate to be that guy. Kolosov is Belarusian.

 

[deadhead]

Hate to be that guy. Kolosov is Belarusian.

KHL is KHL, and Putin considers Belarusia part of Russia.

If you're going to contradict Mr. Putin, my advice is to steer clear of windows above the second floor. He has a fetish for defenestration, absent the cushioning snow banks.

 

[FLYguy3911]

And he gave up 5 in his last start.

 

[Angry Hockey Dad]

That's not messed up, that's bliss!

I had the same. No commercials (would just stay on the overhead ice cam). No talking heads during intermission. Just the ice cam.

Did I mention no commercials?

Ok glad it wasn’t just me, I was watching on a paid streaming service btw. It was kind of nice to just have the arena cam during intermissions and during commercial breaks.

 

[flyersnorth]

Ok glad it wasn’t just me, I was watching on a paid streaming service btw. It was kind of nice to just have the arena cam during intermissions and during commercial breaks.

Same. I have Sportsnet+ in Canada.

Maybe they didn’t have advertising rights for my region?