Prospect Info: 12th Overall 2024 Draft, LHD Zeev Buium

[Dr Jan Itor]

So apparently, according to Brackett, they saw Philly and St. Louis talking on the draft floor.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

So apparently, according to Brackett, they saw Philly and St. Louis talking on the draft floor.

That was reported in real time, someone had that mentioned in the main board draft thread before we made the trade. Paying a third to keep him in our hands and out of theirs is a great play.

 

[thestonedkoala]

So apparently, according to Brackett, they saw Philly and St. Louis talking on the draft floor.

This team needed skill. It has depth in spades. A third next year isn't going to make the impact Buium is going to make for the Wild. Absolutely fantastic move.

 

[Wasted Talent]

Kind of interesting that Blues weren't able (or willing) to outbid a 3rd rounder. Luchanko being available at 16 doesn't seem that unlikely based on pre-draft ranking at least.

Or maybe it all happened during that 3 minute window and there was no time for a bidding war.

 

[AKL]

Kind of interesting that Blues weren't able (or willing) to outbid a 3rd rounder. Luchanko being available at 16 doesn't seem that unlikely based on pre-draft ranking at least.

Or maybe it all happened during that 3 minute window and there was no time for a bidding war.

St. Louis also had pick 16, so PHI didn't have to trade back as far and risk losing their guy. Pre-draft pundit rankings obviously don't mean much because we got Buium at 12.

 

[Wasted Talent]

St. Louis also had pick 16, so PHI didn't have to trade back as far and risk losing their guy. Pre-draft pundit rankings obviously don't mean much because we got Buium at 12.

Yeah that's fair. Trading down 1 spot and knowing we want Buium is just a free asset with zero risk of backfiring.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Hopefully they'll put out another all access video. Would love to hear a little something at the table during that whole thing.

 

[AKL]

Yeah that's fair. Trading down 1 spot and knowing we want Buium is just a free asset with zero risk of backfiring.

Plus, from the Blues perspective, it probably would have cost them a 2nd, so maybe they were waffling a bit on whether it's worth it, and Guerin didn't waffle at all? Not sure

 

[TaLoN]

So apparently, according to Brackett, they saw Philly and St. Louis talking on the draft floor.

Which means, the chances of this trade happening next year change drastically since all teams will be in their remote war rooms like in the NFL moving forward. Teams won't know who is talking to whom.

 

[57special]

Sharks fan here. We've been collectively in love with Buium for a long time. When he fell to that pick, people were elated that we had a choice between him and Dickinson. Apparently, our GM had Dickinson rated higher, so he took him.

IMO, you guys got the best D in the draft including Levshunov. Can't believe he was the last of the six to be picked, that's just insane to me. At some point, forget the measurements and trust your eyes. I think many teams from this draft will regret passing on him.

I sure didn't expect to draft him, but would've been thrilled to draft Dickinson. Different type of Dman, but he seems to have almost no flaws. His tool are already good enough for the NHL, and will only get better. Some criticize his lack of offense, but then I look at his point totals, and the way he almost willed his team to a victory in the Memorial Cup, and have to wonder what people are talking about.

Buium seems to have a really high hockey IQ, skills, and offensive imagination, but doesn't have the athletic gifts that Dickinson does. It's really nice to have bigger, stronger, faster in your toolbag to start with.

 

[57special]

Plus, from the Blues perspective, it probably would have cost them a 2nd, so maybe they were waffling a bit on whether it's worth it, and Guerin didn't waffle at all? Not sure

I think it's easy to forget that this all has to be done in real time, in a crowded, huge room while trying to keep your voice down and lips hidden so competitors won't discern and try to derail what you are trying to do. I can definitely see PHI preferring a 3rd+ 13 to a 2nd+16, as it took the guesswork out of things from PHI's perspective.

FWIW, I think Luchanko is highly regarded. Maybe not a 1st line material, but has the potential to be a 2C. Fast, smart, very good two way player with good playmaking ability. Same size as Helenius, with a similar skillset.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Hopefully they'll put out another all access video. Would love to hear a little something at the table during that whole thing.

They put the day 2 video out but not day one. Makes me think we might not be getting one

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

They put the day 2 video out but not day one. Makes me think we might not be getting one

Link?

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Link?

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807275372288864519

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807275372288864519

Dang. Day 1 would've been so much better.

 

[Star Platinum]

I sure didn't expect to draft him, but would've been thrilled to draft Dickinson. Different type of Dman, but he seems to have almost no flaws. His tool are already good enough for the NHL, and will only get better. Some criticize his lack of offense, but then I look at his point totals, and the way he almost willed his team to a victory in the Memorial Cup, and have to wonder what people are talking about.

Buium seems to have a really high hockey IQ, skills, and offensive imagination, but doesn't have the athletic gifts that Dickinson does. It's really nice to have bigger, stronger, faster in your toolbag to start with.

I'm thrilled to have gotten Dickinson. I thought we had no chance of getting him short of trading a haul to get somewhere around pick 6-8. He'll be a different kind of defenseman than Buium, but it's hard for me to envision him not being comfortably in a team's second pairing at worst. I could see him being an all-situations kind of defenseman.

I just think Buium is that special kind of power play defenseman that doesn't come along that often and his defensive ability is being undersold.

 

[keppel146]

I like Kiviharjus attitude and confidence that’s for sure. Didn’t seem to like going so late per the video.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

2025-26 is going to be pretty fun with both Yurov and Buium dropped into the NHL lineup.

 

[ThatGuy22]

2025-26 is going to be pretty fun with both Yurov and Buium dropped into the NHL lineup.

I think you mean the end of 2024-2025

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I think you mean the end of 2024-2025

Which is in what year...?

 

[Digitalbooya]

Which is in what year...?

Well, you said the 25-26 season and they said end of 24-25.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Well, you said the 25-26 season and they said end of 24-25.

I didn't say 'season'.

 

[Digitalbooya]

I didn't say 'season'.

Seems to be implied since that’s how I took it and how another poster took it. But you do you.

 

[ThatGuy22]

Which is in what year...?

I mean, it's just a quipy response, but when you list two years in an NHL forum as you did. It's fair to assume you're talking about a specific season.

 

[DANOZ28]

on a quick decision like this billy has to trust his gut. IF there were 2 D available when philly was picking do you stick & pick?