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DancingPanther said:
Today I get the joy of being something I hate. An annoying family member of a patient.

Proud Plat Snoop Dogg the Puppy has major nail clipping anxiety (he doesn't bite people or anything, just screams and flails) and we bring him to the vet to get it done every month and a half or so.

Snoopy takes trazodone and acepromazine to help. He has seen one of the vets at this practice since he was a potbelly puppy. However, we had worrisome poops about 6 months ago (ended up resolving with some antibiotics) and had to make an emergency vet appointment. We saw another vet who, before even discussing GI treatment/worms etc, realized he was too crazy to properly assess and told me to look into the Baskerville muzzle. I said well usually we take meds before vet visits but with the nature of this one, we obviously couldn't. So then she said well you could also feed him f***ing hemp infused food. I said I'm not here for his nerves, I'm here for diarrhea. She gave me flagyl and I left satisfied but annoyed.

Fast forward to our last nail trim. It's been probably 4-5 mail appointments since we met this vet who immediately told me to muzzle one of my dogs. She decides she's going to take it upon herself to increase BOTH doses of trazodone by almost dounle and acepromazine by TRIPLE. These are medications that you titrate to effectiveness, not triple the doses of. These meds already, at the "prior" doses, make him stumble and sleepy at home (obviously vet adrenaline kicks in when we get there).

So today I get to tell the nurses I didn't follow Dr. Muzzle's instructions, and instead titrated the meds as viewed appropriately by Dr. DancingPanther, PharmD, because if this happened in the hospital I'd page about it. She added a higher-than-starting dose of acepromazine, increased his other dose, and increased both doses of trazodone. I'm not going to watch my dog go into respiratory failure because of this cavalier doctor.

I also plan on telling them I'd like to discuss this therapy plan with Snoop's usual doctor who knows him well. We see her in a week and a half for routine wellness and shots for Brutus.
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**** em up. <3

Just to be clear, did this doc make these changes without discussing them with you?

We went through the trazodone scripts too. CBD supplements ended up working much better for him. Obviously supplement QC is absolute dogshit compared to drugs, but we eventually ended up finding a brand with which we were pleased.
 
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JojoTheWhale said:
**** em up. <3

Just to be clear, did this doc make these changes without discussing them with you?

We went through the trazodone scripts too. CBD supplements ended up working much better for him. Obviously supplement QC is absolute dogshit compared to drugs, but we eventually ended up finding a brand with which we were pleased.
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She had a minion email Girl, but essentially yes. She didn't discuss or call. "Feel free to call with any questions" obviously in the email. I want to be clear in saying we love this clinic as a whole and I've recommended it to everyone in the area.

We tried CBD oil but it was just the stuff from PetSmart. Who knows what it actually was lol. Shit is terribly unregulated. For Snoop I think we need the real stuff though, especially since we have had to up some dosages before this ordeal
 
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DancingPanther said:
She had a minion email Girl, but essentially yes. She didn't discuss or call. "Feel free to call with any questions" obviously in the email. I want to be clear in saying we love this clinic as a whole and I've recommended it to everyone in the area.

We tried CBD oil but it was just the stuff from PetSmart. Who knows what it actually was lol. Shit is terribly unregulated. For Snoop I think we need the real stuff though, especially since we have had to up some dosages before this ordeal
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Ok yeah, that’s over the line. Sometimes things happen, but of course it's understandable to need to clear it up for the future.

I think you know my Dad was on the regulatory side of pharma for decades, so that supplement rant is familiar. :laugh:

We settled on Canna-Pet® - Hemp Nutrition for Pets after talking to some people. It seemed like they were at least trying.
 
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DancingPanther said:
Today I get the joy of being something I hate. An annoying family member of a patient.

Proud Plat Snoop Dogg the Puppy has major nail clipping anxiety (he doesn't bite people or anything, just screams and flails) and we bring him to the vet to get it done every month and a half or so.

Snoopy takes trazodone and acepromazine to help. He has seen one of the vets at this practice since he was a potbelly puppy. However, we had worrisome poops about 6 months ago (ended up resolving with some antibiotics) and had to make an emergency vet appointment. We saw another vet who, before even discussing GI treatment/worms etc, realized he was too crazy to properly assess and told me to look into the Baskerville muzzle. I said well usually we take meds before vet visits but with the nature of this one, we obviously couldn't. So then she said well you could also feed him f***ing hemp infused food. I said I'm not here for his nerves, I'm here for diarrhea. She gave me flagyl and I left satisfied but annoyed.

Fast forward to our last nail trim. It's been probably 4-5 mail appointments since we met this vet who immediately told me to muzzle one of my dogs. She decides she's going to take it upon herself to increase BOTH doses of trazodone by almost dounle and acepromazine by TRIPLE. These are medications that you titrate to effectiveness, not triple the doses of. These meds already, at the "prior" doses, make him stumble and sleepy at home (obviously vet adrenaline kicks in when we get there).

So today I get to tell the nurses I didn't follow Dr. Muzzle's instructions, and instead titrated the meds as viewed appropriately by Dr. DancingPanther, PharmD, because if this happened in the hospital I'd page about it. She added a higher-than-starting dose of acepromazine, increased his other dose, and increased both doses of trazodone. I'm not going to watch my dog go into respiratory failure because of this cavalier doctor.

I also plan on telling them I'd like to discuss this therapy plan with Snoop's usual doctor who knows him well. We see her in a week and a half for routine wellness and shots for Brutus.
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No f*** that vet.

Also, whoa, that the f***! Why is she giving out excess quantities of a drug that is commonly abused? Our vet would have words for her.
 
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Beef Invictus said:
No f*** that vet.

Also, whoa, that the f***! Why is she giving out excess quantities of a drug that is commonly abused? Our vet would have words for her.
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True! They give us a 30 count lol

JojoTheWhale said:
Ok yeah, that’s over the line. Sometimes things happen, but of course it's understandable to need to clear it up for the future.

I think you know my Dad was on the regulatory side of pharma for decades, so that supplement rant is familiar. :laugh:

We settled on Canna-Pet® - Hemp Nutrition for Pets after talking to some people. It seemed like they were at least trying.
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I will discuss with Girl! Thanks. Can you get it on chewy?
 
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DancingPanther said:
True! They give us a 30 count lol


I will discuss with Girl! Thanks. Can you get it on chewy?
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In the last couple years Pukey was a living shitshow with all kinds of routine problems, so we started getting the 30 counts, but that wasn't the f***ing go-to dose; we got 10s or 15s. Even then, she said she was only giving us that much because we know her personally and she trusted we wouldn't be popping them. Her hospital audits this stuff to make sure vets aren't giving this stuff out like candy or, being a drug front on the side. She's being weirdly cavalier with a drug being used situationally but which carries abuse risk. You aren't gonna be the problem, but eventually word will get out that she's a pill ATM.

Also, CBD stuff definitely works on dogs. I have no idea if I trust CBD for humans, it seems like voodoo to me, but we could give CBD oil to the dogs before thunderstorms and it would completely zork them out for a couple hours and help with the panic without giving them something that could be habit forming.
 
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Pictured: a dog that obviously definitely needs a 300% tranquilizer increase and a 150% sedative increase. He has trouble getting on the couch on this stuff

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Beef Invictus said:
In the last couple years Pukey was a living shitshow with all kinds of routine problems, so we started getting the 30 counts, but that wasn't the f***ing go-to dose; we got 10s or 15s. Even then, she said she was only giving us that much because we know her personally and she trusted we wouldn't be popping them. Her hospital audits this stuff to make sure vets aren't giving this stuff out like candy or, being a drug front on the side. She's being weirdly cavalier with a drug being used situationally but which carries abuse risk. You aren't gonna be the problem, but eventually word will get out that she's a pill ATM.

Also, CBD stuff definitely works on dogs. I have no idea if I trust CBD for humans, it seems like voodoo to me, but we could give CBD oil to the dogs before thunderstorms and it would completely zork them out for a couple hours and help with the panic without giving them something that could be habit forming.
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Oh I hear you. Luckily he's just regular nervous during thunderstorms and fireworks and such. We only need meds for nails. He's even good with the bath! He's just a little too crazy for the CBD we tried a few summers ago. Might be worth a second try though
 
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DancingPanther said:
Oh I hear you. Luckily he's just regular nervous during thunderstorms and fireworks and such. We only need meds for nails. He's even good with the bath! He's just a little too crazy for the CBD we tried a few summers ago. Might be worth a second try though
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Nail trimming craziness is apparently a thing with pugs in particular, which I did not know until we got one. She's the sweetest, most well-behaved dog in the world. A local assisted living facility lets her in to socialize with residents. It doesn't get more friendly. Try to cut her nails and she turns into an evil beyond human comprehension.

I think my favorite was the rage pee. We finished and put her down, she piled one blanket on top of another, spun to face us, and let loose all over it while maintaining eye contact.

Drugs do not touch this. We have to use a restraint.
 
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I'm of the opinion that there is not a single vet on the planet good enough for the level of care our animals deserve. They all care more about making money than anything else at the end of the day. It's quite the racket.
 
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DancingPanther said:
I said I'm not here for his nerves, I'm here for diarrhea.
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This is a great line. It should be in a movie. I can see Humphrey Bogart, in some noir movie, stabbing a cig in his mouth and saying it.

Or maybe Arnold Schwarzenegger as more of a one liner before the guns start firing. Or maybe Clint Eastwood in a breathy threat. Or maybe Christopher Walken exasperated. The possibilities are endless, like a Shakespearean line read.
 
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JojoTheWhale said:
Nail trimming craziness is apparently a thing with pugs in particular, which I did not know until we got one. She's the sweetest, most well-behaved dog in the world. A local assisted living facility lets her in to socialize with residents. It doesn't get more friendly. Try to cut her nails and she turns into an evil beyond human comprehension.

I think my favorite was the rage pee. We finished and put her down, she piled one blanket on top of another, spun to face us, and let loose all over it while maintaining eye contact.

Drugs do not touch this. We have to use a restraint.
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My pug is a boy & still under 1 so yeah he’s absolute hell trying to groom. Nails & applying his nose cream is a chore. We need like two of us of to do this to a 20 lbs. pug. :laugh:
 
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Rebels57 said:
I'm of the opinion that there is not a single vet on the planet good enough for the level of care our animals deserve. They all care more about making money than anything else at the end of the day. It's quite the racket.
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American human healthcare is a for-profit business. Obviously the doctors on a personal level want what's best for their patients, but if you work at a hospital/PCP conglomerate? Money money money at the top
 
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Nail trimming craziness is apparently a thing with pugs in particular, which I did not know until we got one. She's the sweetest, most well-behaved dog in the world. A local assisted living facility lets her in to socialize with residents. It doesn't get more friendly. Try to cut her nails and she turns into an evil beyond human comprehension.

I think my favorite was the rage pee. We finished and put her down, she piled one blanket on top of another, spun to face us, and let loose all over it while maintaining eye contact.

Drugs do not touch this. We have to use a restraint.
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This is the funniest shit a dog can do. I need to start doing it.
 
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When our mutt met my sister's dog at my parents house, he decided to be Tough. This dog is the least tough substance in the universe. Nothing about him is tough. Nonetheless, he got in this large dog's face, squared up and made himself as big as he could, and then while staring it in the eyes he pissed on the floor. He was immediately yelled at and he went from Big Tough to Maximum Soft in a heartbeat. He spent the rest of the day apologizing.
 
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Magua said:
This is a great line. It should be in a movie. I can see Humphrey Bogart, in some noir movie, stabbing a cig in his mouth and saying it.

Or maybe Arnold Schwarzenegger as more of a one liner before the guns start firing. Or maybe Clint Eastwood in a breathy threat. Or maybe Christopher Walken exasperated. The possibilities are endless, like a Shakespearean line read.
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Audio recording of you saying it when
 
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