The CAP going up is wishful thinking unless players decide to do it. The league has 3 or 4 years of catching up to existing CAP number as escalator raises were higher than growth for a few years which is why we had a high 15% hold back last year.
Salary Cap: 11 guys signed next year at $65.5M CAP - $16M left for 12 guys
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Did OP factor in the Cap raising a couple million in all his math?
The Cap will get a massive bump in the 2022 offseason. (new US TV deal) Remember all those 3-year bridge deals last off season by other teams?. Guess what year they all expire..... 2021-22. MMT deals are going to be absolute bargains. leafs should be big players in free agency and getting picks to send people to the island.
The Cap will get a massive bump in the 2022 offseason. (new US TV deal) Remember all those 3-year bridge deals last off season by other teams?. Guess what year they all expire..... 2021-22. MMT deals are going to be absolute bargains. leafs should be big players in free agency and getting picks to send people to the island.
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22 man roster. Dylan DeMelo's contract this year is less than 1 million so signed him for 4 million, can't expect him to get more than that. Still have 1.6 million for a backup goalie if Woll or Scott can't handle it.
22 man roster. Dylan DeMelo's contract this year is less than 1 million so signed him for 4 million, can't expect him to get more than that. Still have 1.6 million for a backup goalie if Woll or Scott can't handle it.
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Made this past off-season that kept Barrie, muzzin, Mango and Kapanen. It's already very out dated in terms of lines and pairings, but you get the point.
Honestly were sitting just fine. I have minimal concern for the cap
Edit: I like @diehardleafsfan9878 lineup a lot better. And he didn't even use a cap increase. Personally I'd alter his and sign Barrie instead of Demelo
Made this past off-season that kept Barrie, muzzin, Mango and Kapanen. It's already very out dated in terms of lines and pairings, but you get the point.
Honestly were sitting just fine. I have minimal concern for the cap
Edit: I like @diehardleafsfan9878 lineup a lot better. And he didn't even use a cap increase. Personally I'd alter his and sign Barrie instead of Demelo
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I'm betting we have players sign for league minimum rather than $100k more, so that they're the cheapest option in the system.
Look at this year Engvall might be demoted due to his 925k, compared to Timashov at 694k.
I could see those 12 come in at less than $16mm.
Less than $1mm
- Sandin
- Liljegren
- Lindgren
- Holl
- Korshkov
- Engvall
- Gauthier
- Agostino
- Timashov
- Spezza equivalent
Around 6 combined?
- Dermott
- Mikheyev
Of course we have no idea where the Cap will head, up-down-no movement
Please explain how the CAP goes up 2M next year? The players want to get the escrow holdback to ZERO. Unless owners and players can agree on some interim changes to CBA (which is possible) then the numbers don't work.
2022 I can't wait for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The great Gary promise maybe delivered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But I am from Missouri I will believe it when I see it. There have many many excuses over the years.
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man Holl turning out to be a player has really changed the/my outlook on the dcorps going forward.
Rielly-Barrie
Dermott-Holl
Sandin-Liljegren
looks both really affordable and really good to me.
Rielly-Barrie
Dermott-Holl
Sandin-Liljegren
looks both really affordable and really good to me.
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Read OP and panicked! That seemed like a tall order.
Read this post and feel much better. THANKS!!!
I think Dermott will def be top 4 next year. Love to see him tried on a line with Reilly early 2020.
Edit: Forgot about Holl. He is turning out to be a fairly decent dman and that was under Mike "The Bastard" Babcock who definitely stifled Holl. Can't wait to see what he can do under Keefe
question:
Where do they get the money to sign Barrie moving forward - What kind of dough are you allocating towards him ? He is looking for over 8m on a long term ... Not sure where that money will come from ?
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That assumes the players will agree to the existing formula in CBA which will cause the hold-back to back up to 15% base rate. The players have told Gary they don't want this. They want the holdback escrow % going down again. Who knows where it will go as too many moving parts. The expectation this year is around 10% and 12% is being taken every paycheck right now. It is a negotiated thing. There is ZERO chance the players will go back to a 15% escrow. Based on rates which happened this year likely a 9% escrow in reality next year before true-up and maybe $1M extra. Again the players are still not happy with the 12% coming off this year. But who knows where this goes.
So now your planning to use 8 mill on one player and have 8 mill for 11 guys - OK ?
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They are going to be up against the cap every year regardless who the GM is
Last year they assumed the same things. And the players did not agree to the 15% being taken from their cheques. It is a PR move only from Gary same as last year.
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Remember when we had Zaitsev and marleau and people thought we'd regress this year? Good times
From what I have heard last year the players asked for the ZERO escrow scenario calculation from the owners and the CAP decrease was too much for everyone to admit.
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The cap is always a great subject! I’m actually comfortable with the salary structure of the team in general. Would have liked Marner and Auston for more term but willy’s contract looks better by the projection of his production and his quality of play. ( especially under keefe).
Tavares,Matthews are as high a quality 1-2 center punch as any in the league and Willy, Marner are equally as much quality on the right wing as any in the league.
Johnsson,Kapanen,Kerfoot,Korshkov,Mikheyev Moore,Engvall,Marchment
Rielly,Dermott,Holl,Liljegren,Sandin and a six/seven seems probable.
So many options on the Marlies that i am not concerned when i consider the quality of the players we already have signed. Much more comfortable also because Keefe is the coach to keep developing players that are young and coming in to the team. I am not concerned he will destroy our prospects confidence at any time in the process. I never though that our old coach was good for confidence of our players to the degree I believe in Keefe.
Fluidity is a expected result beyond the core players in our lineup.
Core pieces going forward:
Frederik Andersen —Goal
Matthews
Tavares
Nylander
Marner
Johnsson
Kapanen
Rielly
Dermott
Sandin
Liljegren
Thats a solid 11 core players off the top of my head. Then Dubas needs to have ingenuity in filling in the rest as we go. The fringes as Dubas says.
I will say this with regard to trading. I would move Kerfoot before i would move Johnsson or Kapanen. I actually wouldn’t flinch if Dubas moved Kerfoot in the summer and used that money to sign Mikheyev. Thats a personal preference on money use and asset retention for example.
Fully acceptable for any poster to expect trades.
Tavares,Matthews are as high a quality 1-2 center punch as any in the league and Willy, Marner are equally as much quality on the right wing as any in the league.
Johnsson,Kapanen,Kerfoot,Korshkov,Mikheyev Moore,Engvall,Marchment
Rielly,Dermott,Holl,Liljegren,Sandin and a six/seven seems probable.
So many options on the Marlies that i am not concerned when i consider the quality of the players we already have signed. Much more comfortable also because Keefe is the coach to keep developing players that are young and coming in to the team. I am not concerned he will destroy our prospects confidence at any time in the process. I never though that our old coach was good for confidence of our players to the degree I believe in Keefe.
Fluidity is a expected result beyond the core players in our lineup.
Core pieces going forward:
Frederik Andersen —Goal
Matthews
Tavares
Nylander
Marner
Johnsson
Kapanen
Rielly
Dermott
Sandin
Liljegren
Thats a solid 11 core players off the top of my head. Then Dubas needs to have ingenuity in filling in the rest as we go. The fringes as Dubas says.
I will say this with regard to trading. I would move Kerfoot before i would move Johnsson or Kapanen. I actually wouldn’t flinch if Dubas moved Kerfoot in the summer and used that money to sign Mikheyev. Thats a personal preference on money use and asset retention for example.
Fully acceptable for any poster to expect trades.
