107th Obsequious Banter Thread: Ugly Sweaters Edition

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Chinatown88

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shopping for Legos is so dumb. Why are certain ones like 8 dollars and others 80 or 800? My kids love legos and my oldest is great at building the sets, but I cant buy nice ones because the middle child just breaks it and loses the pieces within a couple of days.
You get rid of the middle child. EZ
 

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Back in uni days I wrote a paper on whether Hiroshima bombing was ethically justified and some stuff I read while doing a rather deep research was... Yes, mind blowing is indeed a precise description,

The topic of "Was dropping the bomb on Hiroshima the right decision?" is one of my favorite lessons. I helped a teacher to develop the lesson for an observation and the philosophy discussion and critical thinking needed to fully understand the situation to pick a side is amazing. We know what the outcome is when it happened and we can use models and predictions to "simulate" what might have happened if the bomb wasn't dropped. Given both options, which way would you go?

i think that's actually where my rabbit hole started. I watched All Quiet on the Western Front and then started going more and more into it. I think WWI for a solider may have been more brutal, youre right. However, I am speaking more to the overall state of the world. You could make the case Vietnam was worse than WWI from a soldiers perspective.

In the end, yes, all war is brutal. Not really worth debating what degree. It seems like humans just had a higher threshold for what they were willing to do to someone else during WWII.
I think good quality video from the battlefield is really what changed that general public perception of apathy. A large portion of the population was never exposed to what was actually happening. They could happily avoid the reality of the situation, so I wouldn't say they had a "higher threshold for what they were willing to do to other people", but more so they didn't fully understand or envision what was actually happening. Each time their was an advancement in "record" technology, pictures to videos with colorization, quality, speed of transmission, and accessibility, more and more people are exposed to the realities of war.

I know there are a lot of variables for the difference in public sentiment in the US during WWII and Vietnam, but I think a large factor is the difference in how many people were able to see what was really happening. Even just in the last 150 years we've gone from a very small percentage of the population who truly knew what was happening, which was essentially the people participating in the war, to basically everyone with an internet connection can truly know immediately.

There is a big difference between finding out Bob died in war:
- "Dear Mary, Bob perished in battle this past fortnight upon the tip of a bayonet." = On no. Not Bob!
- Here is a video of Bob dying = I'm never going to be able to sleep again.
 

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I'll be okay financially even without her financial contributions, I think, but I certainly wasn't expecting this as a possibility. "Our home. Our house. Our future...." sort of talk from her throughout the renovations. Basically I think it just means the projects I had intended to work on myself/have done by a professional just needs to be spaced out and planned for a little differently than I originally intended. It's trying to rework/rethink everything, and it is daunting and confusing. I do not know how to be alone, yet. Like I said, I've been staying with family since the breakup because it's hard for me to face going there. But, that and other reasons are why I am also in therapy.

I have also contemplated with selling. I feel so f***ing stupid if I do that, though. Like, a major set-back personally. The greatest positive about this house is that I had 50% equity through inheritance going into the process. Still, the financial aspect is definitely a major change to consider for everything necessary in home ownership and the work necessary to make it feel "complete" (which I realize it NEVER will be. What home is?). For example: My next project is to rewire the whole house (which I am not going to do myself). No grounding anywhere. So I'll start in the kitchen, first, then the living room, and yeah... go from there...

Thanks man. I can't say F* that B* quite yet to myself. Part of me feels like I'm just trapped in a nightmare and I'll wake up soon. Blahhhh


Thanks man, but I am a lover not a fighter. Never in my life have I swung at someone or been swung at. So can I just have a hug?
Awful to hear. One thing I learned the hard way I life is you cannot control other people, and energy spent trying to do so is wasted. Better now (sucks no matter what) than more years wasted and just building up resentments, + kids.

It's really hard for people to be honest with themselves sometimes.

Grats on the beautiful dog! I got a rescue GSD 7 years ago now, named "Chance", because he was on his last one. He is absolutely the BEST dog...I have no idea why anyone would have given him up. Don't get a GSD if you want a dog to be inactive all day I guess...
 

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Awful to hear. One thing I learned the hard way I life is you cannot control other people, and energy spent trying to do so is wasted. Better now (sucks no matter what) than more years wasted and just building up resentments, + kids.

It's really hard for people to be honest with themselves sometimes.

Grats on the beautiful dog!
Precisely why I remain a bachelor with no spawns...
 
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Apologies if this starts to go way off topic, but I have actually been going down a huge WWII rabbit hole lately. I forget exactly what kicked it off (it might've actually been someone on here mentioning USS Texas), but it is still mind blowing to try and understand just how brutal things were then.

I think it's so difficult to imagine because of just how different things are these days, but life seemed almost meaningless during that time. I've been watching countless veteran accounts from DDay and other battles, rewatched Band of Brothers and now on the Pacific. Netflix shows, etc. What the world went through back then almost feels like fiction
It gives you perspective for the relative "peace" that has existed in my lifetime (45 years). A transformative war like this hasn't existed since, where there was actual potential for global change.

In the "West" since the war generation x and younger has had more luxury to be "the main character" in our lives.
 

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It is a bit odd (and I understand the deadliness of the weapons are different now) that we sit here fearing nuclear war with Russia as the only country to ever use them.

The blatant disregard for civilian life during the war was something else
This happens in most wars still, regardless of the combatants. The lawlessness is used to settle scores.
 
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this is better than my wife's solution...just have more kids...because it only gets easier, right?

You already have a 4 man squad with which to get victory royales. Another child would add absolutely nothing. Unless it’s a ploy by your wife for you to be odd person out and have to spend “quality time” with her. But you’re too clever for that little ruse.

Our other cat.

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Both snakes (maybe the same?) were still alive. I put him in the woods out back. I've had cats catch mice, and even birds, but snakes are a first lol.

@Captain Dave Poulin — you need to see this good kitty.
 

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Our other cat.

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Both snakes (maybe the same?) were still alive. I put him in the woods out back. I've had cats catch mice, and even birds, but snakes are a first lol.

Holy f***! That's not just a damned good kitty - that is a damned HERO! Give him some ham from me please. I'm not joking - do it.
 

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I want to be clear, I think all war is brutal; however, I feel like WWI was a bit worse to be honest. That was civil war tactics with modern day weaponry. There were generals who still thought that calvary charges into multiple machine guns worked - they did this throughout the war, mustard gas attacks, trench warfare...just f***ing brutal
The Great War was absolutely horrific. I read a book on the Battle of the Somme a couple years back, and it took me several months to finish because I kept putting it down. It was too depressing to read about whole villages of young men getting gunned down in minutes. The British had almost 20,000 men killed in action on the first day of the offensive.
 

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At least in WWI and WWII (for Allied soldiers, typically), if you were off the front you were off. That was it. In Vietnam and the War on Terror, that wasn't a thing. Everywhere was "the front." Your base well behind the supposed front line could be the site of a shooting or bombing. There was no safe leave or rest. No true time off.
 

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The Great War was absolutely horrific. I read a book on the Battle of the Somme a couple years back, and it took me several months to finish because I kept putting it down. It was too depressing to read about whole villages of young men getting gunned down in minutes. The British had almost 20,000 men killed in action on the first day of the offensive.

The US showed up halfway through 1917, and suffered 117,000 dead and 204,000 wounded in only about 1 to 1.5 years (The AEF started arriving in June 1917 but didn't fully participate until October). That was just fighting on the Western Front.

In WW2, the US lost ~400,000 and 670,000 wounded in 4 years, but along fronts in Italy, Africa, Europe, and the Pacific.

WW1 was ass. Pure booty ass.

The Napoleonic Wars were pure dookie booty poop ass.
 

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Beefette and The Child made pumpkin Pie on Monday night. But it took an eternity to cool, so The Child didn't get to have it before bed. She decided to blame me, even though I was entirely uninvolved. She declared it was the most unfair thing that has ever happened, and that she wished nobody had ever been born so the world wouldn't exist, and that everything would be made of metal. Then she mumbled about how much she wanted me to call the police on myself so I'd be dragged off to jail to eat nothing but eggs and crumbs.
 

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At least in WWI and WWII (for Allied soldiers, typically), if you were off the front you were off. That was it. In Vietnam and the War on Terror, that wasn't a thing. Everywhere was "the front." Your base well behind the supposed front line could be the site of a shooting or bombing. There was no safe leave or rest. No true time off.
yeah I cant remember the exact amount or anything, the numbers I am referencing are just pure recollection of learning about it about 15 years ago, but it was a stat that said on avg a soldier in WWII was fighting about ~60-65 days of the year and in vietnam you were fighting ~260 days of the year

The Great War was absolutely horrific. I read a book on the Battle of the Somme a couple years back, and it took me several months to finish because I kept putting it down. It was too depressing to read about whole villages of young men getting gunned down in minutes. The British had almost 20,000 men killed in action on the first day of the offensive.
there were no more pal battalions after this to avoid these situations. they were thought to be good to fight with people you knew and could trust, but the catastrophic losses that would be felt by certain areas vastly outweighed the benefit
 

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Beefette and The Child made pumpkin Pie on Monday night. But it took an eternity to cool, so The Child didn't get to have it before bed. She decided to blame me, even though I was entirely uninvolved. She declared it was the most unfair thing that has ever happened, and that she wished nobody had ever been born so the world wouldn't exist, and that everything would be made of metal. Then she mumbled about how much she wanted me to call the police on myself so I'd be dragged off to jail to eat nothing but eggs and crumbs.

Okay but how was the pie?
 
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