107th Obsequious Banter Thread: Ugly Sweaters Edition

[Lord Defect]

Anyone know what the prices for Stevie nicks and billy Joel tickets are?

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Anyone know what the prices for Stevie nicks and billy Joel tickets are?

I don’t know, but if i had to guess, it’ll be about $50-175 for the tickets and another $100 or so for the Ticketmaster fees and charges.

 

[Flybynite]

So I see people on Twitter are freaking out about him “silencing critics” with these bans but then I look around for two whole minutes and it appears to only be a 7 day ban for posting his tracking information.

If the below is true, it seems fairly reasonable. If someone was tracking me or my family I’d want to try to prevent it too. Not sure why that kind of stuff would be allowed.

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And this might have something to do with it. Kinda begged for it, didn’t he?

Regardless of whether you agree with the temporary bans or not, I don’t see how this contradicts the “restore the first amendment” talk. The first amendment doesn't say you can say or post literally anything with zero repercussions.

If they were banned for criticizing him then it would absolutely be hypocrisy, but if it’s true that it’s because they were sharing a way to see his or his families real time location then that seems pretty different.

IT most certainly contradicts *HIS* first amendment talk and advocacy. It doesn't violate the ACTUAL first amendment because Twitter is a private business. I am calling out HIS hypocrisy something I stated in my post.

BTW, he is actually having some noteworthy people banned simply for tweeting that they have a MASTODON account. Not even talking about the plane tracking. Twitter did not ban people who posting links to their new 'truth social' accounts under the old regime.

You want another Elon power trip? There was a twitter spaces (something I never knew what it was until now) which appears to be an audio/zoom like conference thing with journalists taking place. One of the banned journalists was there and Elon joined the chat to discuss the bans, when he was pressed about comparing the bans to previous things he criticized the past regime for or said he wouldn't do he bounced from the chat.

The chat then mysteriously 'shut down' and any actual archive on twitter was deleted.

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If you want to talk about first amendment nothing the journalists did was illegal. It is protected first amendment for a journalist to publish a story that uses the facts of the situation. They can write a story or report that the "Elon jet" guy has been banned and taken up shop on alternate sites. That's a news story. That's protected first amendment. It's been litigated and tried in the courts for longer than you or I have been alive that this type of thing is protected.

But there's absolutely *NO REQUIREMENT* that a private company allows a person to disseminate that story. If you can not see a contradiction and a hypocrisy in someone who trumpeted "FREE SPEECH IS BACK" then carrying out actions that are actually in violation of what the courts would say is "FREE SPEECH" then dunno what to tell you.

Dude is welcome to ban anything. He can set-up blanket bans for insulting Elon Musk if he wants to. It 100% shows his hypocrisy at play.

Also, just FWIW several law enforcement agencies were contacted by reporters because of Elon talking about an incident with his family and none of them report any kind of actual police report filed for the incident.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

The plane tracker thing is dumb, but it's also public info. People do it with athletes and coaches and it's frankly weird to me too.

I'll give you one example of when it makes perfect sense. When the Liverpool online community heard that Jurgen Klopp was being hired, we had about three or four dozen people tracking planes from Germany to England and guessing which one he was on. While it was in the air, we filled approximately 300 pages (not an exaggeration) with excited gifs. It was f***ing hilarious.

At this time, I'd like to remind everyone that Elon Musk's ancestors were named after animal j*zz.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

IF this is real, does that change anything? If it is, it then seems more like "doxxing" than if it was public information (which I don't think it should be, but whatever). Gathering intentionally hidden information about someone and making it public would seem more bannable than just linking to a public resource.

To me, no. But again, I'm fine with getting rid of that stuff as long as it applies unilaterally.

There are benefits to having info like that public. There are also drawbacks. For an example of the former, outfits like Bellingcat have used these types of databases to track and expose Russian foreign assets. What you can do with OSINT these days is wild.

Obviously those type of people are trash, but how does Twitter punish or even know about things that don't happen on Twitter?

Isn't verbal harassment in tweets or DMs the only type Twitter can punish because it's the only thing that involves Twitter?

There used to be an internal group that handled those issues because it's impossible to automate for this and a myriad other reasons. In the specific case I mean, it required a police report and an investigation. The threats specifically invoked Twitter.

In another case I don't believe was made public, one person had set up dozens of Twitter accounts specifically to harass an individual. It took months, but there was action eventually taken. That person's main account is also back now.

That department was all fired and not replaced.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Anyone know what the prices for Stevie nicks and billy Joel tickets are?

Not cheap and a lot of the good seats are dynamic pricing.

My brother got a pair in the first few rows in the Club Level during the Eagles presale. I think that they were $500 or so for the pair. The last row in the club level was I think like $300 for a pair but they change all the time.

 

[Flybynite]

Not cheap and a lot of the good seats are dynamic pricing.

My brother got a pair in the first few rows in the Club Level during the Eagles presale. I think that they were $500 or so for the pair. The last row in the club level was I think like $300 for a pair but they change all the time.

I mean compared to Taylor Swift tickets that seems cheap

 

[Striiker]

To me, no. But again, I'm fine with getting rid of that stuff as long as it applies unilaterally.

There are benefits to having info like that public. There are also drawbacks. For an example of the former, outfits like Bellingcat have used these types of databases to track and expose Russian foreign assets. What you can do with OSINT these days is wild.

I get why tracking planes makes sense in certain situations/uses, but I just don’t see why it would be public for any random lunatic to use.

Just like I wouldn’t trust the public to have access to a database that tracked cars or phones. You can obviously imagine how things like that could be used to do good, but still. Like I said, I just don’t trust people.

There used to be an internal group that handled those issues because it's impossible to automate for this and a myriad other reasons. In the specific case I mean, it required a police report and an investigation. The threats specifically invoked Twitter.

In another case I don't believe was made public, one person had set up dozens of Twitter accounts specifically to harass an individual. It took months, but there was action eventually taken. That person's main account is also back now.

That department was all fired and not replaced.

Ah ok, that makes sense then.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I get why tracking planes makes sense in certain situations/uses, but I just don’t see why it would be public for any random lunatic to use.

Just like I wouldn’t trust the public to have access to a database that tracked cars or phones. You can obviously imagine how things like that could be used to do good, but still. Like I said, I just don’t trust people.

Brother, I don't trust the police to have access to them. We're not disagreeing on that one.

 

[Don Nachbaur 26]

I don’t know, but if i had to guess, it’ll be about $50-175 for the tickets and another $100 or so for the Ticketmaster fees and charges.

I think you're low on the ticketmaster charges

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I mean compared to Taylor Swift tickets that seems cheap

Taylor Swift tickets were around that price before the Dynamic pricing got involved and then you got to the resale market which I haven't checked to see if it's cooled off on asking prices like I suspect it will.

 

[Lord Defect]

For the curious, I was just under 1600 in queue for general admission. It took maybe 8 minutes to get to me, and the cheapest two seats together available was $150 in the upper level, close to the stage but having to sit or look at a bad angle. Scrolling to see which sections and rows available once, all of those seats were bought out. The only seats left were either floor or lower level for $370 each.
Hard pass.

 

[Striiker]

Brother, I don't trust the police to have access to them. We're not disagreeing on that one.

I remember back when I was an actual child - not an HFLore child - and I thought that the people in charge knew what they were doing and could be relied upon.

What a fool Young Striiker was.

 

[Lord Defect]

Just hurry up and print my sword

Done, I made a few so you could choose two!

 

[Lord Defect]

I remember back when I was an actual child - not an HFLore child - and I thought that the people in charge knew what they were doing and could be relied upon.

What a fool Young Striiker was.

I think I can comfortably say that I am the only one on this board to serve in the military, hold an elected position in local government(accidentally), and have a lordship bestowed apon myself, the government is in fact in place to help you. If only the government could get out of its own way the majority of the time it might be helpful or at least competent.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I think I can comfortably say that I am the only one on this board to serve in the military, hold an elected position in local government(accidentally), and have a lordship bestowed apon myself, the government is in fact in place to help you. If only the government could get out of its own way the majority of the time it might be helpful or at least competent.

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help."

 

[Chinatown88]

Done, I made a few so you could choose two!
View attachment 622411

That's not the Buster Sword.

 

[Lord Defect]

That's not the Buster Sword.

Not with that attitude it isn’t

That's not the Buster Sword.

Fine, I just pulled this one hot off the presses for you.

 

[Striiker]

I think I’m just going to need to make a couple billion, buy Twitter, and handle things myself.

Give me a couple weeks.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

We live in a simulation.

Top twenty funniest things I’ve ever read.

 

[Embiid]

What a dope.....deserves it.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Was trying to see if we had a specific thread for the WJC last time. Can't remember.

Pretty sure we did.

 

[Embiid]

More dopes....

An enormous fish tank in a Berlin hotel lobby burst, spilling 250,000 gallons of water and likely killing all its 1,500 tropical fish

Two people were injured by shards of glass after the 14-meter-high tank exploded in a hotel lobby in Berlin, Germany, on Friday.

www.insider.com

 

[Beef Invictus]

IF this is real, does that change anything? If it is, it then seems more like "doxxing" than if it was public information (which I don't think it should be, but whatever). Gathering intentionally hidden information about someone and making it public would seem more bannable than just linking to a public resource.





I wouldn't be at all surprised.

As I said, I don't trust Musk, I don't trust the people who love Musk, and I don't trust the people who hate Musk. In fact, I don't trust anyone on the entire planet to be completely reliable and honest.

I have no idea what actually happened and I can't imagine I ever will. Please note that's why even going back to my first post I went out of my way to specifically say "IF" those things were true.


Obviously those type of people are trash, but how does Twitter punish or even know about things that don't happen on Twitter?

Isn't verbal harassment in tweets or DMs the only type Twitter can punish because it's the only thing that involves Twitter?

I mean, as I noted they aren't just his planes. A lot of people use them. Their reg numbers have been known for a long time, and regardless of privacy orders are still readily findable even without the Twitter account; there are a lot of people who track planes used by significant people, including CEOs and figures you'd never think to track, maybe for corporate intel purposes. My boss was bored and tracked one the other day. Hell, Of note, Musk wasn't traveling, even though the plane was. There's a whole internet niche for this and yacht tracking. Yesterday we watched military trainers farting around in formation with each other.

Musk is just making the loudest and most ridiculous tantrum over it. If he never freaks out to begin with, none of this ever even leaves its weird internet niche.

 

[Lord Defect]

I mean, as I noted they aren't just his planes. A lot of people use them. Their reg numbers have been known for a long time, and regardless of privacy orders are still readily findable even without the Twitter account; there are a lot of people who track planes used by significant people, including CEOs and figures you'd never think to track, maybe for corporate intel purposes. My boss was bored and tracked one the other day. Hell, Of note, Musk wasn't traveling, even though the plane was. There's a whole internet niche for this and yacht tracking. Yesterday we watched military trainers farting around in formation with each other.

Musk is just making the loudest and most ridiculous tantrum over it. If he never freaks out to begin with, none of this ever even leaves its weird internet niche.

I follow a twitter account that exclusively follows damn near any plane slightly close to being deemed important. Our military, everyone else’s military, a plane that was rented in 1992 by bull Clinton for a puddle jump. He takes his shit seriously.
It reminds me of model train people. Not the ones that have a set they put up at Christmas, the ones that have 14 sets and a miniature recreation of some magical town that happens to have a mountain with a tunnel through it and three different climates and the table it’s on is homemade because it’s 22’x18’ or something ridiculous.

Do you guys want to see all the dogs, cats, and wolves I printed so far?!

Technology is nifty ain’t it?

Auto merge is in fact not nifty