107th Obsequious Banter Thread: Ugly Sweaters Edition

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ajgoal

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I’m in front of the printer now. Everything is plum and square.

Are you positive that it's the nozzle dragging, and not just a poor adhesion issue?

If the print isn't adhering to the build plate correctly, it could get pulked off and along by the material being extruded.
 

Flybynite

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Looks like Elon finally snapped.



a half-dozen or more journalists (or those in the 'journalism/reporting' industry) have been suspended tonight.

Some of it is being traced back to the official account for Mastodon being banned by twitter because Mastodon was allowing the Elon private jet tracker guy to continue to post on there site after he was banned on twitter

Mastodon (a small social media site with similar functionality to twitter, but not as centralized and only a few million users)

Apparently at least one of the journalists banned simply posted that the Mastodon (which had allowed the user to post the plane tracking) was now banned on twitter even though the journalist didn't post any links, just the news itself.

and FWIW... The Supreme Court in the 70s or 80s ruled that public flight tracking information is protected under the first amendment.

Of course Twitter is a private company. They can ban and stop whatever they want just like HFBOARDS can enforce whatever policies they wish.

But when the head of that carrying out these policies was also yelling loudly about 'restoring the first amendment to twitter' there's a pretty big disconnect between the message and the actions.
 

Lord Defect

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Nothing beats staring at the LCD screen on the printer waiting for anything to show up to see if the firmware I think I copied over properly does anything. It’s been about 5 minutes, I feel like something’s wrong here.
I love yet loathe technology.
 

achdumeingute

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It’s not a fun place to be when you are heading down that road. Feel isolated, hopeless, alone in your struggles. I battle depression every day. Thankfully I am in a much better place than I was years ago. I hate it when people make light of it or think you’re weak for asking for help. My heart breaks every time I read stories of people ending their own life. But I do understand the pain that it brings

Looks like Elon finally snapped.



a half-dozen or more journalists (or those in the 'journalism/reporting' industry) have been suspended tonight.

Some of it is being traced back to the official account for Mastodon being banned by twitter because Mastodon was allowing the Elon private jet tracker guy to continue to post on there site after he was banned on twitter

Mastodon (a small social media site with similar functionality to twitter, but not as centralized and only a few million users)

Apparently at least one of the journalists banned simply posted that the Mastodon (which had allowed the user to post the plane tracking) was now banned on twitter even though the journalist didn't post any links, just the news itself.

and FWIW... The Supreme Court in the 70s or 80s ruled that public flight tracking information is protected under the first amendment.

Of course Twitter is a private company. They can ban and stop whatever they want just like HFBOARDS can enforce whatever policies they wish.

But when the head of that carrying out these policies was also yelling loudly about 'restoring the first amendment to twitter' there's a pretty big disconnect between the message and the actions.

#hypocrisy.
 
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Lord Defect

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Striiker

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Looks like Elon finally snapped.



a half-dozen or more journalists (or those in the 'journalism/reporting' industry) have been suspended tonight.

Some of it is being traced back to the official account for Mastodon being banned by twitter because Mastodon was allowing the Elon private jet tracker guy to continue to post on there site after he was banned on twitter

Mastodon (a small social media site with similar functionality to twitter, but not as centralized and only a few million users)

Apparently at least one of the journalists banned simply posted that the Mastodon (which had allowed the user to post the plane tracking) was now banned on twitter even though the journalist didn't post any links, just the news itself.

and FWIW... The Supreme Court in the 70s or 80s ruled that public flight tracking information is protected under the first amendment.

Of course Twitter is a private company. They can ban and stop whatever they want just like HFBOARDS can enforce whatever policies they wish.

But when the head of that carrying out these policies was also yelling loudly about 'restoring the first amendment to twitter' there's a pretty big disconnect between the message and the actions.

So I see people on Twitter are freaking out about him “silencing critics” with these bans but then I look around for two whole minutes and it appears to only be a 7 day ban for posting his tracking information.

If the below is true, it seems fairly reasonable. If someone was tracking me or my family I’d want to try to prevent it too. Not sure why that kind of stuff would be allowed.





And this might have something to do with it. Kinda begged for it, didn’t he?

FkEFmqnXwAAnOnz


Regardless of whether you agree with the temporary bans or not, I don’t see how this contradicts the “restore the first amendment” talk. The first amendment doesn't say you can say or post literally anything with zero repercussions.

If they were banned for criticizing him then it would absolutely be hypocrisy, but if it’s true that it’s because they were sharing a way to see his or his families real time location then that seems pretty different.
 

JojoTheWhale

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So I see people on Twitter are freaking out about him “silencing critics” with these bans but then I look around for two whole minutes and it appears to only be a 7 day ban for posting his tracking information.

If the below is true, it seems fairly reasonable. If someone was tracking me or my family I’d want to try to prevent it too. Not sure why that kind of stuff would be allowed.





And this might have something to do with it. Kinda begged for it, didn’t he?

FkEFmqnXwAAnOnz


Regardless of whether you agree with the temporary bans or not, I don’t see how this contradicts the “restore the first amendment” talk. The first amendment doesn't say you can say or post literally anything with zero repercussions.

If they were banned for criticizing him then it would absolutely be hypocrisy, but if it’s true that it’s because they were sharing a way to see his or his families real time location then that seems pretty different.


At least some are permabans. At least some of the permabans were for sharing an official LAPD statement. I don't mean talking head Keith Olbermann. I do mean real journalists just doing boilerplate reporting who asked the LAPD for comment and then quoted the response.

The 1st Amendment is being brought up by idiots and also people who were told allowing people who had harassed them back was necessary because of freedom of speech. Now it's his safety and the situation is different. His call for sure. He owns the platform. Also him being a shitbag.
 

Striiker

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At least some are permabans. At least some of the permabans were for sharing an official LAPD statement. I don't mean talking head Keith Olbermann. I do mean real journalists just doing boilerplate reporting who asked the LAPD for comment and then quoted the response.

The 1st Amendment is being brought up by idiots and also people who were told allowing people who had harassed them back was necessary because of freedom of speech. Now it's his safety and the situation is different. His call for sure. He owns the platform. Also him being a shitbag.
How do you/they know they’re permanent? I saw people were saying that the ones that are (supposedly) 7 days were permanent too, but apparently that’s not the case. From the screenshots I saw it didn’t look like it said specifically how long it was going to last.

And maybe I’m misunderstanding what you mean by “harassment” but if it’s what it usually means on Twitter then I think there’s a pretty huge gap between tweeting bad shit and something that literally tracks people, so I’m not seeing how those are related.
 

Beef Invictus

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So I see people on Twitter are freaking out about him “silencing critics” with these bans but then I look around for two whole minutes and it appears to only be a 7 day ban for posting his tracking information.

If the below is true, it seems fairly reasonable. If someone was tracking me or my family I’d want to try to prevent it too. Not sure why that kind of stuff would be allowed.





And this might have something to do with it. Kinda begged for it, didn’t he?

FkEFmqnXwAAnOnz


Regardless of whether you agree with the temporary bans or not, I don’t see how this contradicts the “restore the first amendment” talk. The first amendment doesn't say you can say or post literally anything with zero repercussions.

If they were banned for criticizing him then it would absolutely be hypocrisy, but if it’s true that it’s because they were sharing a way to see his or his families real time location then that seems pretty different.


Nobody was tracking his family with this stuff. He made that up as an excuse. The jets are owned by businesses and are often used by the businesses and not just him so there's no way of actually knowing if he or his family are on them. And you can track all this without these Twitter accounts anyway, so he hasn't become any safer. It's just a pure tantrum.
 

Beef Invictus

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How do you/they know they’re permanent? I saw people were saying that the ones that are (supposedly) 7 days were permanent too, but apparently that’s not the case. From the screenshots I saw it didn’t look like it said specifically how long it was going to last.

And maybe I’m misunderstanding what you mean by “harassment” but if it’s what it usually means on Twitter then I think there’s a pretty huge gap between tweeting bad shit and something that literally tracks people, so I’m not seeing how those are related.

The seven day thing appears to be a walk back on his part over the backlash. He keeps acting without thinking and being stunned by the fallout.
 

Cody Webster

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So I see people on Twitter are freaking out about him “silencing critics” with these bans but then I look around for two whole minutes and it appears to only be a 7 day ban for posting his tracking information.

If the below is true, it seems fairly reasonable. If someone was tracking me or my family I’d want to try to prevent it too. Not sure why that kind of stuff would be allowed.





And this might have something to do with it. Kinda begged for it, didn’t he?

FkEFmqnXwAAnOnz


Regardless of whether you agree with the temporary bans or not, I don’t see how this contradicts the “restore the first amendment” talk. The first amendment doesn't say you can say or post literally anything with zero repercussions.

If they were banned for criticizing him then it would absolutely be hypocrisy, but if it’s true that it’s because they were sharing a way to see his or his families real time location then that seems pretty different.

Is there a bigger douche than Keith Olbermann?
 
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JojoTheWhale

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How do you/they know they’re permanent? I saw people were saying that the ones that are (supposedly) 7 days were permanent too, but apparently that’s not the case. From the screenshots I saw it didn’t look like it said specifically how long it was going to last.

And maybe I’m misunderstanding what you mean by “harassment” but if it’s what it usually means on Twitter then I think there’s a pretty huge gap between tweeting bad shit and something that literally tracks people, so I’m not seeing how those are related.

The ones that were permanent said "Your account has been permanently suspended," for the account owner. Most of the screenshots going around were of other people trying to access suspended accounts. Those show no details. I would guess Beef is right about what happened here. For example:

https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe49e5fd-7e7c-4902-a695-b07b49b6f031_828x548.jpeg


I do not mean calling someone names. Without getting into too much detail, I know from personal experience this includes people who do things like mail handwritten threatening letters. The team that handled such issues also no longer exists, so there is no non-automated recourse. And while we're at it, we only have Musk's word that guy followed him from an airport. The picture posted wasn't at one.

The plane tracker thing is dumb, but it's also public info. People do it with athletes and coaches and it's frankly weird to me too. If they want to ban those accounts, go nuts. But if you ban reporters who do things like ask the LAPD if a police report was filed and then print their response that included zero personal info, that's a pretty clear sign you're mad online as it were.
 

DancingPanther

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Nobody was tracking his family with this stuff. He made that up as an excuse. The jets are owned by businesses and are often used by the businesses and not just him so there's no way of actually knowing if he or his family are on them. And you can track all this without these Twitter accounts anyway, so he hasn't become any safer. It's just a pure tantrum.
Also flight transponder/ADSB is publically available info
 

Striiker

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Nobody was tracking his family with this stuff. He made that up as an excuse. The jets are owned by businesses and are often used by the businesses and not just him so there's no way of actually knowing if he or his family are on them. And you can track all this without these Twitter accounts anyway, so he hasn't become any safer. It's just a pure tantrum.
The plane tracker thing is dumb, but it's also public info. People do it with athletes and coaches and it's frankly weird to me too. If they want to ban those accounts, go nuts. But if you ban reporters who do things like ask the LAPD if a police report was filed and then print their response that included zero personal info, that's a pretty clear sign you're mad online as it were.
IF this is real, does that change anything? If it is, it then seems more like "doxxing" than if it was public information (which I don't think it should be, but whatever). Gathering intentionally hidden information about someone and making it public would seem more bannable than just linking to a public resource.



The seven day thing appears to be a walk back on his part over the backlash. He keeps acting without thinking and being stunned by the fallout.
Those show no details. I would guess Beef is right about what happened here.
I wouldn't be at all surprised.

As I said, I don't trust Musk, I don't trust the people who love Musk, and I don't trust the people who hate Musk. In fact, I don't trust anyone on the entire planet to be completely reliable and honest. :laugh:

I have no idea what actually happened and I can't imagine I ever will. Please note that's why even going back to my first post I went out of my way to specifically say "IF" those things were true.

I do not mean calling someone names. Without getting into too much detail, I know from personal experience this includes people who do things like mail handwritten threatening letters. The team that handled such issues also no longer exists, so there is no non-automated recourse.
Obviously those type of people are trash, but how does Twitter punish or even know about things that don't happen on Twitter?

Isn't verbal harassment in tweets or DMs the only type Twitter can punish because it's the only thing that involves Twitter?
 
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