Sportsnet: “All bets are off” in regards to Babcock

[McSnypsky]

It's the way he said it.

Babcock be like "you can't fire Mike Babcock! Only Mike Babcock can fire Mike Babcock!"

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

I don't get it either as a defender. I would tell him like Commodore f*ck it I'm staying in front of net to stop any kill zone chances. or I'm in corner f ing a guy over to get the puck. 2 defenders behind net never works in hockey.

See it did for him when he had Lidstrom and Kronwall etc...so in his mind it has to work now...he is SUCH a mule. If it worked before it will work again...just be patient...

 

[Trapper]

Babcock be like "you can't fire Mike Babcock! Only Mike Babcock can fire Mike Babcock!"

 

[DarkKnight]

Babcock be like "you can't fire Mike Babcock! Only Mike Babcock can fire Mike Babcock!"

“Press Release:

After much consideration Mike Babcock has decided to move forward without Mike Babcock. Mike Babcock and the entire Leaf family thank Mike for his years as our head coach. Best of luck to Mike Babcock and Mike’s family.

Mike Babcock”

 

[67leafs]

Considering that the PP sucks, why doesn’t Babcock try Barrie on the first unit. He excelled in CO on the first unit, why wait 20 games and a failing PP to try it....is he afraid of hurting Reilly’s feelings???

 

[frog]

It's the way he said it.

He's getting fired, he knows it, you know it, I know it, Dubas knows it. If they lose tomorrow he's gonna be gone so given the amount of pressure of being seen as a failure by the entire nhl and being fired on national tv with everyone hearing about it all over the world.. I think he handled himself alright by saying he is still betting on himself

 

[TMLegend]

He's getting fired, he knows it, you know it, I know it, Dubas knows it. If they lose tomorrow he's gonna be gone so given the amount of pressure of being seen as a failure by the entire nhl and being fired on national tv with everyone hearing about it all over the world.. I think he handled himself alright by saying he is still betting on himself

He'll be picked up by another team almost instantly if he were to get fired. So no he won't be seen as a failure by the nhl. Only by this fanbase.

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

He's getting fired, he knows it, you know it, I know it, Dubas knows it. If they lose tomorrow he's gonna be gone so given the amount of pressure of being seen as a failure by the entire nhl and being fired on national tv with everyone hearing about it all over the world.. I think he handled himself alright by saying he is still betting on himself

When the time finally comes and he does get the boot...what do you think he will be like afterwards?

1. Fairly conciliatory about his tenure and just disappear into the night waiting for his next job.

2. Constantly take little pot shots from afar to show he wasn't the problem and it was Duby or the players.

I am betting it's the latter...he hasn't been fired at the NHL level and I don't think his ego is just going to lie down and take the blame.

 

[likecheese]

 

[frog]

When the time finally comes and he does get the boot...what do you think he will be like afterwards?

1. Fairly conciliatory about his tenure and just disappear into the night waiting for his next job.

2. Constantly take little pot shots from afar to show he wasn't the problem and it was Duby or the players.

I am betting it's the latter...he hasn't been fired at the NHL level and I don't think his ego is just going to lie down and take the blame.

Id say 1.. Who has he talked shit to in the past? I mean i don't know the guy personally but id say 1.

 

[Pyrophorus]

It's scary when a person that old believes coaches make some huge difference. I mean, usually it takes way less time to figure some of this simple **** really. Team will start well for a few games under next coach and then because they've never had to work for anything in their lives they'll go back to same routine. I have been around ballerinas before, they're all the same and just care about fame, money, what to put on instagram, etc...If you aren't taught from a young age about proper behaviour, proper work ethic, etc, very difficult for it to change later on.

Matthews winning a NLA and ROY in 2 leagues, isn't competing?
Marner winning everything, a MemCup, Red Tilson, MemCup MVP are ballerinas?
Neither player worked for any of this??

The saying goes if you, forget history, you are doomed to repeat it.
In this cases (and others), people don't consider it at all.

 

[Pyrophorus]

hrmmm lettttttsssss seeeee

babcock and the other news assist coaches are ALL failing orrrrr

dumbass put together a crap unbalanced roster

yup it's dumbass

If a new coach comes, and the team comes back to life, how many of you GM critics will walk this back?

 

[al secord]

How many rookie head coaches are brought into great situations?

Don Cherry.

 

[Marshy]

Check this out. Score article I just got a notification for.

That is TOO perfect. LMFAO!

 

[bobber]

Leafs picked Dubas over Hunter. Big mistake. Shanny is also a myth.

 

[Teeder Keon]

Don Cherry.

Everyone one of them that were ....

 

[Community]

The issue isn't necessarily the usage, it's his inability to read the situation. For example, if you have Columbus and Boston on a back to back, Freddie absolutely needs to play Boston regardless if it's Game 1 or 2. The points against division rivals are far too valuable to be giving them away like candy.

I can agree with this, but I just dont think its as big of an issue as a lot of people are making it out to be. The teams play in the 2nd game od the back to back is much more concerning. They wouldve lost most of their b2b games if they played the same way in front of Freddie.

A change should be tried, but the biggest issue for the b2b is the teams awful play, not our goalie usage.

 

[Community]

How did you feel about Sparks starting JT’s first game back in Long Island? Clearly that was a huge deal to JT and you’ve gotta think the young guys wanted to get out there and show the new guy they had his back. Babs pissed that opportunity away and quite frankly the team has been a shell of itself ever since. A 6-1 loss to a bunch of old teammates (Leo, Martin). Not a good look.

Once again Babs puts himself before the team and people question why fans want him gone. The sooner he’s out the door the better.

How was that decision, right or wrong, in any way Babcock putting himself before the team? Geez. I want a coaching change, but I dont see the need to run him out of town like a lot of posters. He is a good coach, some posters need to realize every choice he makes isnt the wrong one.

If your team consistently looks extra bad on their 2nd game of a b2b then it absolutely is completely wrong and insane to hang your backup goalie out to dry with that usage. It was absolutely irresponsible to the team to play Kask in first career NHL game like that. It would be absolutely irresponsible to bring up Woll or Scott some time in the future and subject them that kind of confidence destroying usage.

Not irresponsible to play him in a b2b. Thats what happens when you are expected to be a backup. You dont get the good games most of the time. It was Irresponsible of the team to play one of their worst games in recent memory in front of him.

 

[hizzoner]

One guy has lost every first round he's coached in the past decade pretty much, the other guy has coached 13 playoff rounds in the last 4 years including 2 conference finals and one championship.

He may be a rookie at the NHL level but teams like last years had no business making a run like they did but the guy knows how to get the best out of his players that time of year.

Too lazy to check on the accuracy of Jeff Oneill on Overdrive but he said it is easy for Marlies to win when they have like a 12 million dollar a year budget compared to the 3 million a year budget of other AHL clubs. With no cap limit in AHL Leafs can stash players and overpay for tweeners to stack the Marlies. So Keefe winning is to be expected and not proof he can coach professionals especially in NHL. Something to think about.

 

[Teeder Keon]

Too lazy to check on the accuracy of Jeff Oneill on Overdrive but he said it is easy for Marlies to win when they have like a 12 million dollar a year budget compared to the 3 million a year budget of other AHL clubs. With no cap limit in AHL Leafs can stash players and overpay for tweeters to stack the Marlies. So Keefe winning is to be expected and not proof he can coach professionals especially in NHL. Something to think about.

There’s some validity to that ...
But again
This can’t be worse ..
Everyone had to start somewhere ..
Bowman had a team stacked with veterans in his first couple of years with the Blues and they were competitive over the established original 6
There are so many circumstances and scenarios and nuances
Berube wasn’t a very good coach initially ? But a genius last year ..
Sports is littered with oddities and firsts
We can never make a blanket statement in any situation , it’s pure speculation and rhetoric ....

 

[A1LeafNation]

So where was Matthews?

 

[supermann_98]

Check this out. Score article I just got a notification for.

That is TOO perfect. LMFAO!


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Lol the Knives are definitely out

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

So where was Matthews?

I think if Matty was there it would be obvious they were just trolling Babs....I doubt he would throw anything other than an anchor to Babs if he was drowning.

 

[Leaf Fans]

He'll be picked up by another team almost instantly if he were to get fired. So no he won't be seen as a failure by the nhl. Only by this fanbase.

He is a good coach- his record proves that, but if he were to be fired, it is because he was not right for this team. It happens in every job.