Boston Bruins ‘22-‘23 Bruins roster and trade proposals discussions.

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KurtDangle

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Could we get Wilson from Washington for Bergys last playoff push? Caps seem to be out of playoffs this year.
 
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Could we get Wilson from Washington for Bergys last playoff push? Caps seem to be out of playoffs this year.
Bruins nation would have gone nuts if Tom WIlson came to Boston. That said, he’s a very valuable player (I despise him BTW). He just is.

Boston possibly could weather the outrage from it’s fans if he produced and didn’t have any on ice problems — in normal circumstances.

Now, after the issues of the last few days??? I place better odds on me getting the PowerBall numbers. About 1 in a hundred billion, by the way.:laugh:
 

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Could we get Wilson from Washington for Bergys last playoff push? Caps seem to be out of playoffs this year.

doubt it.
tore his acl in May and
Could we get Wilson from Washington for Bergys last playoff push? Caps seem to be out of playoffs this year.


currently damaged goods. Torn acl. Maybe back around New Year. Also cant afford him 5.2 M for this year and next.

I dont see it happening.
 
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But could he be 19 year old Pasta ready by the second half? If he keeps producing like he is all year, I think you have to take a peek at some point.
The potential is definitely there. I just think its still too early to tell on a guy with 9-10 AHL games under his belt. I think the prudent move here is to give him at least through the end of the calendar year and see how he holds up. That's exactly what we did with Pasta.
 

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And the NHL again must be trending for a high scoring season additionally. 2.5 million for a PK specialist is tough to justify.
His AAV is $1.75mil, which is peanuts. He's doing exactly what Monty wants his 4th line center to do....win faceoffs, kill penalties and defend.

Yes his offensive numbers are pitiful, but that 4th line as a whole has been producing. I don't see a reason to mess with it, and I don't think moving Frederic to 4C makes this team better.

I'm still not convinced that Frederic is an NHL Centerman and I'd prefer not to experiment with him in that role unless injuries make it a necessity.
 

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Alright this is random but I was thinking: the Bruins have to have the most Czech players in the league, right?

Pasta
Krejci
Zacha
Nosek
Zboril
Lauko

6 regulars, or about 25% of the roster that really plays. Can anyone think of another team? Interesting to me, not sure if it's intentional (doubt it) or just worked out that way.
 

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Alright this is random but I was thinking: the Bruins have to have the most Czech players in the league, right?

Pasta
Krejci
Zacha
Nosek
Zboril
Lauko

6 regulars, or about 25% of the roster that really plays. Can anyone think of another team? Interesting to me, not sure if it's intentional (doubt it) or just worked out that way.
Just as many Czech's as Canadians! Gotta be a record there.

Alright this is random but I was thinking: the Bruins have to have the most Czech players in the league, right?

Pasta
Krejci
Zacha
Nosek
Zboril
Lauko

6 regulars, or about 25% of the roster that really plays. Can anyone think of another team? Interesting to me, not sure if it's intentional (doubt it) or just worked out that way.
Also, doesn't hurt when your trying to resign your top Czech player and franchise forward.
 

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Stone hands is right. But you know what, I don't hate Nosek as an everyday player on this team. Go back 15-20 years ago and you would of had a big lumbering winger who couldn't put the puck in the ocean. Your 12th Forward so-to-speak.

Now instead maybe the strategy is that your 12th forward that can't score is a defensively strong center who can win face-offs, compete down low in the D-zone, and works really hard. And let the two 4th line wingers look after the offense for that line. If your gonna dress one forward per game who can't produce, maybe you get more bang-for-your-buck by having that guy be a center rather than a winger.
I like Nosek, and he does a lot of good things for this team but what if Frederic can do the same thing defensively and on the PK but chip in more? Frederic is excellent defensively.

What if we actually developed a center?
 

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During all the chaos, anyone still think we are moving salary anytime soon, or just impossible with the shit storm happening? McAvoy is coming back, and we probably need to move at least 2 players.
 
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I keep hearing trade Smith trade Reilly but why not explore Carlo? Plus you might actually gets assets back.

Clifton has emerged with a better transition game and has a knack for keeping offensive plays alive. He's shown he can be the #2 RD option on the PK after McAvoy.

I'm worried the FO will take the easy road letting Cliffy walk and not thinking twice about Carlo because he's been here 7 years... Don't mean to be too harsh on the guy but the injuries are worrisome and the cap will be close with Pasta's deal.
 

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I like Nosek, and he does a lot of good things for this team but what if Frederic can do the same thing defensively and on the PK but chip in more? Frederic is excellent defensively.

What if we actually developed a center?

Absolutely. And if/when everyone is healthy, 8 of the top 9 spots are locked in. If Frederic doesn't grab that 9th F position (or they bring someone else in at the deadline) I think Frederic would bring more as the 4th line C than the 4th line W.
 

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I think there's still some tinkering with lines that need to happen........on the bottom 6
Marchy-Bergy-Debrusk
Hall-Krejci-Pasta
Those two lines are locks

Zacha-Coyle-Foligno should be the 3rd line moving forward until a change is required

Frederic/Greer/Nosek/Smith round out the 4th line but IMO Smitty doesn't fit down there.

If anything happens to anyone in the top 6, you can move Zacha/Foligno up or you alsways have that kid in the AHL......who has looked really good thus far.

Smith and Reilly jettisoned outta here as quickly as possible.
Activate McAvoy
Take some time to see what that team gives you and then re-examine closer to the deadline for any depth additions.
 
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I keep hearing trade Smith trade Reilly but why not explore Carlo? Plus you might actually gets assets back.

Clifton has emerged with a better transition game and has a knack for keeping offensive plays alive. He's shown he can be the #2 RD option on the PK after McAvoy.

I'm worried the FO will take the easy road letting Cliffy walk and not thinking twice about Carlo because he's been here 7 years... Don't mean to be too harsh on the guy but the injuries are worrisome and the cap will be close with Pasta's deal.

It’s scary when you think about how we have seen Clifton’s play fall off and need time upstairs over the years. Also scary with Clifton needing a big raise. You might be sitting with neither of them next year. But I would listen.
 

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Forward Lines Version 2

MAR BER ZAC
HAL COY PAS
FOL KRE DEB
GRE FRE SMI

Size on every line.
Youth on each line.
Skill pairs with a complimentary talent.
 
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Forward Lines Version 2

MAR BER ZAC
HAL COY PAS
FOL KRE DEB
GRE FRE SMI

Size on every line.
Youth on each line.
Skill pairs with a complimentary talent.
As mediocre kre has been I don't want to see Coyle playing second line center. He's a better player on the third line.
 

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1 points (an assist) in 12 games. That’s a 0.08 PPG pace. That’s pitiful for any NHL player. You need to produce something more than this. You just need to. He’s on pace for 0G/7A on the season. The level of defense and PK’ing that needs to be done to make up for this is ridiculously high.

Divver, a highly respected writer said this:



The Bruins, so far, are one of the highest scoring teams in the league and he has 1 measely point. It’s a concern.


I get what you're saying and I think we'd all like to see more offense. With that said Nosek starts 83.4% of his zone starts in the defensive zone (most on the team) and is 58.1% in the dot (trailing only Bergeron). Sometimes you don't make the box score but had a hand in a goal. I think about Lauko's first go for example. Nosek drives the net, taking two defenders with him, which opened up a HUGE lane for Foligno to feed Lauko for a goal. Nosek didn't get credited with an assist on the play, but that goal doesn't happen if he doesn't create the passing lane for Foligno. Nosek has hit at least one post that I can recall as well, which is a bit of bad luck. All in all Nosek is being used in more of a defensive role than he was under Cassidy last year. Add to that he's probably gripping the stick a little to tight because he knows he's not producing offensively and here we are.
 

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As mediocre kre has been I don't want to see Coyle playing second line center. He's a better player on the third line.
Coyle has been excellent. He’s winning draws and dominating possession.

Plus, I think there is too much of the same on the second line. Everyone wants to be the guy making the plays and nobody goes to the front of the net, they’re weak defensively which means they spend whole shifts defending… Coyle brings something different, a penalty killer, a big body who goes to the net.

In their limited time together last year, Hall-Coyle-Pasta was better than the Haula version.
 

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I'm confused, Forbort - Clifton is a great pair, but so is Lindholm - Clifton....

We keep looking for a partner for Carlo, but maybe we instead look for a new option at RD?

Tricky, Reilly is the obvious cap casualty, but do you try to upgrade Carlo? needs to be for another RD because Stralman cant be your regular #6 and I had high hopes for Zboril to be the #7 since he can play both sides but Monty doesn't seem to like him on any pair at the moment, too many brain farts.
 
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I get what you're saying and I think we'd all like to see more offense. With that said Nosek starts 83.4% of his zone starts in the defensive zone (most on the team) and is 58.1% in the dot (trailing only Bergeron). Sometimes you don't make the box score but had a hand in a goal. I think about Lauko's first go for example. Nosek drives the net, taking two defenders with him, which opened up a HUGE lane for Foligno to feed Lauko for a goal. Nosek didn't get credited with an assist on the play, but that goal doesn't happen if he doesn't create the passing lane for Foligno. Nosek has hit at least one post that I can recall as well, which is a bit of bad luck. All in all Nosek is being used in more of a defensive role than he was under Cassidy last year. Add to that he's probably gripping the stick a little to tight because he knows he's not producing offensively and here we are.
Frederic's goal also went through Nosek's legs last night on a nice screen in front and his cycle game was great per usual. It is too bad he didn't have just a tiny bit of finish because he does do a lot of nice things that you want out of a 4th line center. Wouldn't be shocked if he is one of those guys the locker room (not just the coaches) values and would be a hard pill to swallow for players seeing him jettisoned. Probably going to be a if it ain't broke situation and unless things go south (losing streak) and he still has no goals then maybe they'll start scratching him or move on if a replacement gets it done.
 

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Carlo for Horvat
Reilly/pick for late pick
Smith for pick

Marchand - Bergy - Debrusk
Hall - Dk - Pasta
Zacha - Horvat - Coyle
Frederic - Nosek - Foligno
Greer

Grizz - Mcavoy
Lindy - Cliffy
Forbort - Stralman
Zboril
 
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