‘18-19 State of the Ducks Part II - Failed
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So, my believe is that paying fans are expected to pay their entertainment money to help this team survive and ideally be successful.
Mistakes have been made, everyone makes them. There is obviously a need to hold your cards close to the vest if you’re BM, but the lack of communication and the lack of owning his own mistakes are part of what bothers me.
I didn’t like Csrlyle coming back in the first place. I wasn’t a huge fan even when we won the cup, believing from some contacts through business that they won in spite of him. So the patience I have seen befuddles me, and blaming the players before making some reactionary player moves certainly hasn’t helped.
So, I see a team that is crashing, anything good that has happened the last two seasons is in large due to goaltending. The team looks demoralized, and as a paying customer that wants to see a successful team I’m pissed. I don’t like Bob talking out of both sides of his mouth at STh events.
I think the stupidity of Keslers ice time management is far worse than the contract he signed. And being lied to about how Kesler will be managed makes it worse. Sign a player like that to a questionable term and not protecting hat investment is absurd. Running Gibson in to the ground to try to prop up A failing program is bad asset management.
So, as a customer I won’t spend a dime on something that is a poor product, and as fan I’m frustrated at what to me is lack of a plan
Mistakes have been made, everyone makes them. There is obviously a need to hold your cards close to the vest if you’re BM, but the lack of communication and the lack of owning his own mistakes are part of what bothers me.
I didn’t like Csrlyle coming back in the first place. I wasn’t a huge fan even when we won the cup, believing from some contacts through business that they won in spite of him. So the patience I have seen befuddles me, and blaming the players before making some reactionary player moves certainly hasn’t helped.
So, I see a team that is crashing, anything good that has happened the last two seasons is in large due to goaltending. The team looks demoralized, and as a paying customer that wants to see a successful team I’m pissed. I don’t like Bob talking out of both sides of his mouth at STh events.
I think the stupidity of Keslers ice time management is far worse than the contract he signed. And being lied to about how Kesler will be managed makes it worse. Sign a player like that to a questionable term and not protecting hat investment is absurd. Running Gibson in to the ground to try to prop up A failing program is bad asset management.
So, as a customer I won’t spend a dime on something that is a poor product, and as fan I’m frustrated at what to me is lack of a plan
08? Quit complaining, you were spoiled with the best teams in USC history, arguably all of College football history.
This is nothing. Swann and Helton are idiots but at least the team has talent.
Be glad you did not have to be in the Coliseum during the Hackett years. I witnessed first hand every home game of THE worst USC football team in history. Talk about glutton for punishment. student section was a ghost town back in those days.
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I actually wonder if these changes made to try and play faster actually really hurt the team. Speed has always been a major weakness with this team, going back quite a few years, but slowing the game down has long been a major strength. They won a lot of games playing that way, and while the new core probably has to play differently, this core probably shouldn't.
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It’s become somewhat entertaining to watch the games unfold and wake up the next morning with no comments, no firing, nothing.
And yes I don’t feel entitled to it.....I said it’s entertsining hopping my delusion of reading something that might move us forward could happen each morning makes me laugh at how stupid I am.
I AM truly hoping we make some positive exciting moves/trades that move us toward a future. Our window has closed with this group, I personally haven’t given up on Getz and really, Perry. Thornton’s use is my image of them going forward....valuable vets that have the ability and brains to still contribute even as the hard miles they’ve put in effect them. But we need to look towards a front line, and though I believe it is coaching, our defense other than Hampus hasn’t shown anything to make them untouchable if it moves us towards the future
It’s become somewhat entertaining to watch the games unfold and wake up the next morning with no comments, no firing, nothing.
And yes I don’t feel entitled to it.....I said it’s entertsining hopping my delusion of reading something that might move us forward could happen each morning makes me laugh at how stupid I am.
I AM truly hoping we make some positive exciting moves/trades that move us toward a future. Our window has closed with this group, I personally haven’t given up on Getz and really, Perry. Thornton’s use is my image of them going forward....valuable vets that have the ability and brains to still contribute even as the hard miles they’ve put in effect them. But we need to look towards a front line, and though I believe it is coaching, our defense other than Hampus hasn’t shown anything to make them untouchable if it moves us towards the future
It also fit their personnel. At least for the Getzlaf line. why cant you build different strategies for different lines?
ZzZz
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Easier to make Kase grind it out along the boards than to come up with a different game plan for his line.
The Mighty Duck Man
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Lines are never consistent as it is and 5-man units are much worse, you've got to streamline things. And players freestyle so much that it fits their play more, anyway.
All you have is basic concepts, the problem here being the basic concept itself might be the wrong thing to push. It goes beyond just Getzlaf even, pretty much everyone just plays better at a slower pace.
I totally disagree. In years past we had Getzlafs line as a puck possession and cycling line, Keslers line as a defensive shutdown line and our 3rd line was more of a vanilla line because we weren't particularly unique in any way. We played to our strengths for each line and played very very differently with each line out there. And it worked.
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All you have to do is look at our powerplay, the strategy is literally have 5 guys stand around not moving and passing the puck to each other.
But how much of that is also based on trying to force Getz to QB it at the point? I feel like that's always been the biggest issue because his game has been built on the deception and separation from slowing the game down and messing with opposition timing. That doesn't work on the PP, and it's only gotten worse the last couple years now that they have no plan other than trying to pass it around hoping for a bounce. Is it any wonder why the 2nd unit has looked so much better than the first most of the year?
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Stephens pointed out in his article that Comtois has more points than Kesler this season
I cancelled my Viasat (easiest way to watch NHL games in Finland while paying for it) a few months ago now. I prefer to not see a franchise goalie shredded of any confidence.
Not paying for it again in the future, until proper changes are made to management and coaching. Thank god I don't live in NA - I would probably have season tickets.
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la patineuse
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Me three. And both coaches had players who saved their seasons---Sam Darnold for USC (along with Juju) and Gibby for the Ducks.
USC has had other major institutional problems that make me ashamed of my alma mater, so these are pretty dark days.
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la patineuse
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08? Quit complaining, you were spoiled with the best teams in USC history, arguably all of College football history.
This is nothing. Swann and Helton are idiots but at least the team has talent.
Be glad you did not have to be in the Coliseum during the Hackett years. I witnessed first hand every home game of THE worst USC football team in history. Talk about glutton for punishment. student section was a ghost town back in those days.
Things were pretty bleak between JRI and CPC. Even during Pete's first year, I remember the Stanford game at the Coliseum when they collapsed in the second half. USC couldn't break a dollar because they didn't play for four quarters or something like that was being tossed around, but was so true.
la patineuse
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The 25th anniversary season should have been a celebration, but it's been a dud. It's been more than a dud; it's been the worst season ever.
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Why?
The Ducks are in a fantastic spot for the expansion draft.
Perry and getzlaf contracts will be up, and Kessler will be on a partial NTC and won’t require protection.
If it was 1 year earlier the Ducks would be f***ed.
la patineuse
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Don't hold your breath. Murray will find a way to screw it up again.
Anaheim4ever
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Bob Murray will plan ahead & by some fancy gift wrap paper + ribbons & gift wrap Mahura to the Seattle team.
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The Henrique Kase Ritchie line. I'm really speaking of last season since since Kase has barely played this year.
The zone entry is a large part of it, and it still looks about the same this year; ring the puck around the boards. The play often dies there before we even get possession back.
When the puck would end up in Ritchie's corner, it works decently, but the puck was in Kases corner it was probably going to stay there until Kase got outmuscled by 1 or 2 players. Kase is one of the few players who can get to the inside and in front of the net, but he struggles digging the puck out of the corners, and Henrique has to just stand 6-10 feet back in awe, waiting for a pass that never comes. Kase shined on odd man rushes, and has good offensive instincts to know when to hold on to the puck and try to get into some dangerous areas, but dumping the puck into the right side corner, every other shift is probably not the best way to play when hes on the ice IMO.
