Proposal: Zuccarello+ for Panarin

[Regal]

The centerpiece of a trade for Panarin cannot be a player as old as Zuccarello.

Why? He fits in with the age of Toews and Kane. The team is basically built around getting as much out of them and Keith as they can and dealing with the future beyond that when it happens.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Really because Panarin is quite a bit better than Zuccarello IMO?

How much better is he? 5 points better? He's younger, he's better, and he has more value, but how much better is he? I don't think its that much, since Panarin wouldn't play with Patrick Kane on our team. I don't think its enough that I would want to give up our best prospect.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Panarin+TVR and I'd do it.

How is TVR with offense, skating and puck moving?

 

[TLEH]

How is TVR with offense, skating and puck moving?

offensively he has great instincts, his skating is average and his puck moving is OK. not exactly the OFD ur looking for, but I think Panarin is a better player than zuc Like 10-12 points better

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

offensively he has great instincts, his skating is average and his puck moving is OK. not exactly the OFD ur looking for, but I think Panarin is a better player than zuc Like 10-12 points better

I think thats a fair trade.

 

[WesMcCauley]

How much better is he? 5 points better? He's younger, he's better, and he has more value, but how much better is he? I don't think its that much, since Panarin wouldn't play with Patrick Kane on our team. I don't think its enough that I would want to give up our best prospect.

He is better and younger. Zucc is definetely the better defensive player but Panarin just had a crazy good offensive season with Kane. Lets just keep it at that. Gotta also remember that Zucc has a bargain contract, Panarin will seek a longterm big money deal.

 

[Section32]

Making a locker room guy a captain pales in comparison to New York constantly signing mistake after mistake, and doing whatever they can to bury their mistakes so they can make fresh, new mistakes.

Examples please, my good man!

 

[DarthProbert]

So Chicago traded quality for quantity without even saving much cap space, if any at all. Seems rather pointless.

They get depth instead of spending to the cap on a line and a half.

 

[nyr__1994]

Examples please, my good man!

Holik
Redden
Gomez
Drury

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Rangers really don't have the cap for Panarin....assuming Panarin is going to have very good season and going to get about 7m.

If the Hawks trade Panarin or anyone to get cap space, maybe it makes more sense to them to get young "prospects" May not be of immediate help to the Hawks but such is the nature of a cap salaried system.

Carolina has cap space and need wingers....could the Canes offer a few young Dmen which they have "excess"

 

[ManofSteel55]

So Chicago traded quality for quantity without even saving much cap space, if any at all. Seems rather pointless.

They don't save cap space directly, but they do get a pile of good depth players who make very fair salaries. Those are the types of players the Hawks need to get to move forward competitively now that Kane and Toews new contracts have started.

They wouldn't do a move like this now though. Maybe next summer if they feel a good offer of quality depth parts are there, but not now.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Examples please, my good man!

Holik
Redden
Gomez
Drury

Girardi
Staal

But they are now finding that it isn't easy to bury mistakes anymore because of the cap.

 

[slappipappi]

If Chicago decides to move Panarin for cap reasons, teams will line to give them some good, young cheap talent in return.

They won't be taking a collection of stuff costing them more than Panarin.

They would this as an opportunity to save cap space.

You can always find players making $2-3M who are decent middle players by simply taking on their contracts. They have little trade value on the market anymore.

The Hawks would want 1 young premium player who's cheaper but less established than Panarin. If the value was such that they needed more than that, they'd ask for draft picks.

 

[thedoughboy]

How is TVR with offense, skating and puck moving?

offense is fine, skating is average, puck moving is good.

 

[hawksrule]

How is TVR with offense, skating and puck moving?

He is quite possibly the slowest skater in the league. It's painful.

 

[thedoughboy]

He is quite possibly the slowest skater in the league. It's painful.

thats far from true. he isn't blazing fast by any means but your a little overzealous saying the slowest in the league

 

[Leafs87]

Girardi
Staal

But they are now finding that it isn't easy to bury mistakes anymore because of the cap.

Richards too. That one I think anyone could see though. Thank god Burke surprisingly dodged that bullet.

 

[DanielBrassard]

That's horrible for us. The difference between Zucc and Panarin is not one of the leaders in Primary assists per 60 over the past 2 years and a good bottom-6 forward

 

[AtNightWeFly]

I do NOT want Panarin in the tri-state area under any circumstances!

 

[thedoughboy]

That's horrible for us. The difference between Zucc and Panarin is not one of the leaders in Primary assists per 60 over the past 2 years and a good bottom-6 forward

maybe not but the fact panarin is 24 and zucc is 29 compounded on how much better panarin is does

 

[TT1]

terrible for NYR, a Rangers fan made this offer?

 

[WesMcCauley]

terrible for NYR, a Rangers fan made this offer?

Ye i did and im a huge Zucc fan, dont wanna trade him but we need to get younger. Someone thinks its horrible for Chi, other like you think its horrible for NYR. Seems like a pretty fair deal then imo

 

[thedoughboy]

terrible for NYR, a Rangers fan made this offer?

curious as to why?

 

[MattMartin]

Easy NO from Chicago.

 

[Section32]

Holik
Redden
Gomez
Drury

Some of these are a decade old....

One 15 years old...lol