Value of: Zegras
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He isn’t being moved. Especially coming off an injury.
No young Duck should be moved until Cronin is fired and they get a chance with another coach. Cronin sucks.
Habs Halifax
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His value is in the gutter right now, so it'd be stupid of Anaheim to trade him unless he asks.
Nope, still WAY more than you'd want to pay.
So the next step in the trade process (not by you) is for him to be called names, shown by cherry picked advanced stats that he's worthless, and then storm off in a huff when Anaheim won't give him away for a bag of pucks & a half dozen used jock straps...
/like Gliff said, nobody 'should' be moved until there's a new coach
//however, with PV wanting to look like he's doing 'something' other than ignoring the coaching issue...who knows
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Benstheman
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Yeah doesn't make sense for Ducks to trade Zegras like it wasn't making sense for Habs to trade Dach after 25 games this season.
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Well at least you admit Anaheim has the refs on their payroll.
Why would we want Zegras now ?
The top 6 for next year is pretty much set.
The top 6 for next year is pretty much set.
Habs Halifax
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This is more about Zegras's value at this point in time. I'm open to a trade but if the value has come down. Don't look like the Ducks are interested in trading him with lower value they had this past summer.
How would he fit the Habs? That's another conversation. I do wonder what MSL could do to get his game back to 60 pts level and if were were to agree on a fair trade (both sides like), Habs could create a strong top 9F group.
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I'd go for him but would I be much less generous in my offers that I was in the beginning of the season
Also, I think we should go after Barzal instead
Also, I think we should go after Barzal instead
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John Mandalorian
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That’s great. It’s nice to see that Habs fans are finally on a gravy train with biscuit wheels.
Montreal fans: "We want Zegras"
Ducks fans: "No, he's having a down year but the talent is still there, he would cost a lot, and we don't want to move him"
Montreal fans: "BUT HE'S NOT A 60 PT SCORER ANYMORE, he's not very good, I offer Evans and a 3rd"
Ducks fans: "No, he can rebound with a better coach and more support, his talent is certainly there, overpayment only, or we keep him cause we don't have to move him"
Montreal fans: "Ducks fans overrate their players and are idiots"
Thread done. Repeat in two months.
Ducks fans: "No, he's having a down year but the talent is still there, he would cost a lot, and we don't want to move him"
Montreal fans: "BUT HE'S NOT A 60 PT SCORER ANYMORE, he's not very good, I offer Evans and a 3rd"
Ducks fans: "No, he can rebound with a better coach and more support, his talent is certainly there, overpayment only, or we keep him cause we don't have to move him"
Montreal fans: "Ducks fans overrate their players and are idiots"
Thread done. Repeat in two months.
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Zegras I feel only gets moved if there's stuff behind the scenes that we're not aware of.
Like he's quietly asked to be traded, or he's an issue off the ice (which there's no indication of).
Ducks would be crazy to trade him now. 10 points this year. Calgary pushed Pelletier through waivers who has one less point in 6 less games than Zegras, and as a Flame fan I know Jakob doesn't hold much value.
What sense does it make for Anaheim to trade a 23 year old for a late first or second and middling prospect. Just doesn't make much sense.
Like he's quietly asked to be traded, or he's an issue off the ice (which there's no indication of).
Ducks would be crazy to trade him now. 10 points this year. Calgary pushed Pelletier through waivers who has one less point in 6 less games than Zegras, and as a Flame fan I know Jakob doesn't hold much value.
What sense does it make for Anaheim to trade a 23 year old for a late first or second and middling prospect. Just doesn't make much sense.
Shiny new wheels are coming in next year, much more promising than a Zegras aquisition.
We'll circle back in 2 years on your evaluation. Everybody and their grandmother know the Habs are not there yet. Doesn't mean they need to overpay for a Zegras now. They were interested last summer, but things have changed now. They went in another direction while he was not available. (+Laine, +Demidov)
So what is your point exactly ?
Besides trolling an entire fan base, which is the obvious.
Do you even know about roster construction ?
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John Mandalorian
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Someone mentioned not trading him until they change coaches. And that’s a fair point as it’s not just Zegras who hasn’t really blossomed under this coach. The problem is, when a GM changes coaches too many times, the owner starts thinking it’s time to replace the GM. So this Cronin experience might last longer than it should even though it doesn’t appear to be helping their young Cs. It seems like it might be a rock and a hard place until something gives way.
Every time Cronin finds something that works for anyone but the Vatrano Strome Terry line, he breaks it up and goes back to what wasn't working. Carlsson and Colangelo looked dangerous together for a game, they get split. McTavish and Carlsson look good for a game, split them up. Zegras looks good at C and bad at wing? Let's play him at wing more! Carlsson has no chemistry with Killorn but Cronin refuses to split them apart.
That said, Cronin has gotten Zegras to play significantly better in the other two zones. That doesn't mean he's good or will ever be a shut down C, but he may be average defensively and hopefully back to 60+ points and season under a new coach or a switch back to C.
That said, Cronin has gotten Zegras to play significantly better in the other two zones. That doesn't mean he's good or will ever be a shut down C, but he may be average defensively and hopefully back to 60+ points and season under a new coach or a switch back to C.
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Nope no reason for Anaheim to sell him... basically missed the last 2 seasons due to injury so no one is going to really pay mcuh for him.
And he is the type of player we need in our line up.... its unfortunate the injury occured becuase it seemed like he was starting to heat up (6 in 7), so hopefully he can get comfortable quick and bring a boost of creativity to our offense/powerplay.
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Crazy, almost like Montreal has more than one fan and we don't always agree on who to target in trades...
I don t think MTL would pay much for him, he is another reclamation project that you would not want to pay much for. I don t think ANA would trade him when his value is at his lowest.
Habs Halifax
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I agree with this. The question is does Zegras rebound and how long do you wait? I remember offering Newhook and a 1st last summer. It was laughed at but I said Newhook is not that far behind Zegras. How will this age as we move forward in time more? Over the last two seasons, their numbers are very close. Zegras missing more games yes but if Dach gets devalued because of it, so does Zegras.
Two bold statements that I really don't care if others laugh at or not... Dach will be on par with Cozens in the next 5-8 years and so will Newhook and Zegras over the same span (5-8 years). Bookmark it.
This is not a Zegras target today. I felt the asking price was way too high this past summer and he has not rebounded this season. This is a Zegras value thread and I would not have him high on our target list at this point in time. Not even sure I'd offer Newhook straight up
I'm still a fan of Zegras. I do hope he rebounds for the Ducks. Seems like they will wait it out. That is totally their prerogative
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Well, that is a relief to know he is staying, now no other fan base need to worry about their GM, getting him.
