Zayne Parekh vs Zeev Buium

[JPeeper]

Parekh = Erik Karlsson

Buium = no NHL comparable.. but maybe Hutson (mixed with Andrei Markov).

But I clearly believe that Buium is a defenseman you can win with..

Parekh.. not that much.

Parekh literally just won the Memorial Cup.

 

[Mattb124]

Yeah, last 15 years the only notable players are Dougie Hamilton, Mikael Sergachev, Aaron Ekblad and Thomas Harley. Thing is though, Parekh outproduced all these players by at least 38 points.

But if you make the cutoff just a few years further, that list ends up including PK Subban and Drew Doughty (who he outproduced by 22 points)

Again, there are more than a few duds. Most notable are ryan Ellis and Ryan Murphy who didn't amount to much but are just right below Parekh on the list and outproduced all the guys I mentioned in their 17 year old season.

Ryan Ellis a dud? Guessing you didn’t watch Nashville much or are under the age of 24.

 

[HarrySPlinkett]

Parekh = Erik Karlsson

Buium = no NHL comparable.. but maybe Hutson (mixed with Andrei Markov).

But I clearly believe that Buium is a defenseman you can win with..

Parekh.. not that much.

lol Erik Karlsson is not a player you can win with.

Thanks, Tips.

 

[Bond]

My Flames list was Catton, Buium, and then Parekh. Salty they lost Catton right before their pick and would have preferred Buium but will see how it turns out

 

[karltonian]

Ryan Ellis a dud? Guessing you didn’t watch Nashville much or are under the age of 24.

I guess it's mostly us sharks fans that kept running into them in the playoffs that know he was one of their horses.

 

[Double Dion]

I'm a Flames fan. Bear in mind I took out the Russian players as I just didn't know enough about them. My top 4 in this draft overall was:

1. Celebrini
2. Catton
3. Buium
4. Parekh

I had Buium ahead of Parekh, but I had Parekh ahead of his draft position. I think those who are calling Parekh to be Tyson Barrie are not very good at evaluation. I'd say I know the WHL prospects very, very well. I wouldn't claim any special knowledge on any other leagues. I preferred Parekh over Yakemchuk by a massive amount. A bit over Iginla and Lindstrom. The amount I had Buium over Parekh was small enough that I was fine either way given the Flames have lost 2 high end D prospects from the college system.

 

[DJJones]

So why did everyone skip Buium? Guessing they all see something they don't like

Guys getting spoken of like a generational talent, do they ever fall like this?

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

I think they’re comparable but Zeev has done it a higher level so I will lean him. Parekh may have a higher offensive ceiling, actually, but hasn’t been able to defend at an average level in even the OHL.

 

[MasterMatt25]

So why did everyone skip Buium? Guessing they all see something they don't like

Guys getting spoken of like a generational talent, do they ever fall like this?

Height

 

[DJJones]

Height

quick google says they're both 6'. Not sure about combine measurements though

 

[AKL]

So why did everyone skip Buium? Guessing they all see something they don't like

Guys getting spoken of like a generational talent, do they ever fall like this?

quick google says they're both 6'. Not sure about combine measurements though

Saw a post somewhere on here that pointed out that Levshunov, Yakemchuk and Parekh are all RHS, then the LHD went in order of height/size

Not sure if that's actually why it went that way, but knowing NHL GM's, wouldn't be surprising at all if that's it

 

[DFF]

So why did everyone skip Buium? Guessing they all see something they don't like

Guys getting spoken of like a generational talent, do they ever fall like this?

That’s a very good question. Probably more valid than all the hype he is getting here.

 

[Felidae]

So why did everyone skip Buium? Guessing they all see something they don't like

Guys getting spoken of like a generational talent, do they ever fall like this?

I mean tbh, considering both Parekh and Buium had historic seasons in their league for their age group, you'd think they'd be ranked higher. Wouldn't be the first time players should have gone higher than were they were drafted.

 

[DJJones]

I mean tbh, considering both Parekh and Buium had historic seasons in their league for their age group, you'd think they'd be ranked higher. Wouldn't be the first time players should have gone higher than were they were drafted.

Flames are talking like they didn't think they'd ever get Parekh. But the flaw with him is pretty obvious, he doesn't play actual defense at a high level.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

So why did everyone skip Buium? Guessing they all see something they don't like

Guys getting spoken of like a generational talent, do they ever fall like this?

Drafts are weird. Seattle could've had Catton #1 and Buium #2 when they picked. Then Calgary had Parekh #1 and Buium #2, then NJ. That's all it takes.

The way Brackett and Guerin talked about Buium after the 1st round, I would not be surprised if he was in their top 5.

 

[ORRFForever]

So why did everyone skip Buium? Guessing they all see something they don't like

Guys getting spoken of like a generational talent, do they ever fall like this?

The scouts have seen the two play and rated them accordingly.

What percentage of posters who voted in this thread do you think have actually seen Parekh or Buium play (minus highlights)? 10% ??? TBH, I doubt it's that high. And, if they have seen them play, it wasn't much.

In other words, most have NO idea. You're giving too much credit to the dummies (myself included) in this forum.

 

[5 14 6 1]

98% of the users here haven't seen either play. Both sound promising

 

[JPeeper]

Drafts are weird. Seattle could've had Catton #1 and Buium #2 when they picked. Then Calgary had Parekh #1 and Buium #2, then NJ. That's all it takes.

The way Brackett and Guerin talked about Buium after the 1st round, I would not be surprised if he was in their top 5.

I've also heard that most GM's were shocked when Ottawa grabbed Yakemchuk at 7. Flames had him as a mid 1st rounder.

 

[Nabrules]

Buium could end up an Adam Fox type.

Parekh might become a Tyson Barrie.

I know which one I’d rather have.

I’d take Buium but this is just talking in lingo terms.

Parekh could be Erik Karlsson.

Buium could become a Cam York.

I know which one I’d rather have.

 

[ORRFForever]

I’d take Buium but this is just talking in lingo terms.

Parekh could be Erik Karlsson.

Buium could become a Cam York.

I know which one I’d rather have.

Most years there is a Canadian D-Man vs American D-Man HFB battle before and after the draft.

I've been around long enough to remember when it was Ekblad vs Hannifin - even though they were one year apart. Then there was Nurse vs Jones. Drysdale vs Sanderson.

If we were to go back we'd see that most of the posts in those "Who is Better" threads were inaccurate / pure garbage - with Canadian posters backing the Canadian player and American posters backing the U.S. player.

 

[Rubi]

So why did everyone skip Buium? Guessing they all see something they don't like

Guys getting spoken of like a generational talent, do they ever fall like this?

I agree. Buium ended up being picked 12th and was the 6th dman drafted. Parekh was the 3rd dman drafted. I trust Craig Conroy's and Todd Button's opinion more than the opinion of any poster on HF.

 

[HarrySPlinkett]

So why did everyone skip Buium? Guessing they all see something they don't like

Guys getting spoken of like a generational talent, do they ever fall like this?

Erik Karlsson was the seventh Defenseman taken in a draft that doesn’t have seven Defensemen better than Erik Karlsson in it.

 

[thestonedkoala]

So why did everyone skip Buium? Guessing they all see something they don't like

Guys getting spoken of like a generational talent, do they ever fall like this?

1) Buium's handiness.
2) Teams skip on players all the time. Classic example for Minnesota, everyone skipped on Boldy. Everyone skipped over Wally.
3) GMs tend to overthink things.

 

[Bond]

1) Buium's handiness.
2) Teams skip on players all the time. Classic example for Minnesota, everyone skipped on Boldy. Everyone skipped over Wally.
3) GMs tend to overthink things.

Flight risk is probably a big one

 

[thestonedkoala]

Flight risk is probably a big one

Possibly. But for every Fox, there is a Coronato.