Zack Kassian II - The Ben Scrivens edition

Corncob · Dec 27, 2015

MarkovsKnee said:
Don't understand why we're trading Kassian before giving him a chance to play.

He did have a chance to play. Stay in shape, stay out of bars, don't let anyone drive your truck into a tree. He blew it.

Rapala · Dec 27, 2015

PhysicX said:
If we get trade for a goalie NOW, I'm seriously going to ****ing lose it.

No joke, the boxing gym better be open.

Bernard Brissette thinks there is panic running through this organization from top to bottom.
Hiring in a tender would indeed be a good indication of scrambled thinking.
Just think If we miss the playoffs we will have come full circle to where SS was called in to recommend a GM. If we compare our issues to those of the Red Wings of two years ago we can't make excuses.
They were able to bring in young players and stay afloat until the cavalry arrived.
But then again they had a coach who genuinely liked and trusted his players.

googlymoogly · Dec 27, 2015

Kimota said:
Keep Kassian you Goddamn idiot. Habs are a bunch kittens.

I am really getting sick of Montreal getting rid of players if they don't act like robots.

They traded Chelios for an old man because he wasn't an angel.

Imagine a guy like Ferguson today, they would trade him because he was just too dang mean.

When will management realize all those old Hab teams had some nasty guys protecting the star players some of the guys were dirty like Chelios or a player like Nilan might suddenly start attacking the other teams bench :laugh:

. The thing is they were crazy enough to make the other players a little nervous when they were on the ice. No one makes other teams nervous now except maybe Price stoning them during a game.

Habs13 · Dec 27, 2015

googlymoogly said:
I am really getting sick of Montreal getting rid of players if they don't act like robots.

They traded Chelios for an old man because he wasn't an angel.

Imagine a guy like Ferguson today, they would trade him because he was just too dang mean.

When will management realize all those old Hab teams had some nasty guys protecting the star players some of the guys were dirty like Chelios or a player like Nilan might suddenly start attacking the other teams bench. The thing is they were crazy enough to make the other players a little nervous when they were on the ice. No one makes other teams nervous now except maybe Price stoning them during a game.

Ahmen!

I really thought we had turned that corner when we traded for DSP, Kassian, had Big Mac developing and Tinordi knocking at the door! And then came Flynn, Mitchell, Byron, and the soft parade continued on.

Habs13 · Dec 27, 2015

Corncob said:
He did have a chance to play. Stay in shape, stay out of bars, don't let anyone drive your truck into a tree. He blew it.

Listen, when I was 23, I was making far worse mistakes than he did - I turned it around after a pretty solid wake-up call and I think he deserves the chance to prove he has too.

Kimota · Dec 28, 2015

googlymoogly said:
I am really getting sick of Montreal getting rid of players if they don't act like robots.

They traded Chelios for an old man because he wasn't an angel.

Imagine a guy like Ferguson today, they would trade him because he was just too dang mean.

When will management realize all those old Hab teams had some nasty guys protecting the star players some of the guys were dirty like Chelios or a player like Nilan might suddenly start attacking the other teams bench. The thing is they were crazy enough to make the other players a little nervous when they were on the ice. No one makes other teams nervous now except maybe Price stoning them during a game.

Right?

MB and Therrien are just like Gauthier and Martin, ballsless idiots.

Molson should hire Chelios for President.

Et le But · Dec 28, 2015

I'm not going to lose too much sleep over Kassian, as he's an enigma who teams have previously given up on, but the obsession with character is one of the problem that keeps Canadian teams from becoming contenders in the modern NHL - the Habs and Leafs especially pat themselves on the back for their tradition, which apparently includes filling the team with nothing but good ol' farmboys with no personalities based on some fictional blue collar image of a vanilla hockey player.

LyricalLyricist · Dec 28, 2015

Et le But said:
I'm not going to lose too much sleep over Kassian, as he's an enigma who teams have previously given up on, but the obsession with character is one of the problem that keeps Canadian teams from becoming contenders in the modern NHL - the Habs and Leafs especially pat themselves on the back for their tradition, which apparently includes filling the team with nothing but good ol' farmboys with no personalities based on some fictional blue collar image of a vanilla hockey player.

I think there's an exaggeration with Kassian. He went into phase 2 of substance abuse. Sean Avery had poor character, Kassian has other problems. Yes, it's a character issue(I guess) but being drunk, letting other drunk people drive and getting into an accident isn't exactly something you sweep under the rug.

People forget that if Kassian didn't lose time from the rehab he would've lost time from the broken foot and nose he suffered from that fiasco. Why would most teams want to invest in someone like that?

Dominator13 · Dec 28, 2015

If I ever hear on TV that we need a powerforward that can play the game, I think that I'll throw a brick at it.

I can't believe we're about to trade the exact kind of package that we need, for Ben ****ing Scrivens.

Wats · Dec 28, 2015

The only way you get a player with Kassian's tools for cheap is if there's baggage attached. If Habs aren't skilled enough to develop one on their own and too risky/not enough pieces to trade for one...they need to make the effort to lose the baggage on Kassian.

Guys like Scrivens are dime a dozen. There's no guarantee he's even better than Condon.

Fish on The Sand · Dec 29, 2015

I have no issue bailing on Kassian. He betrayed the team, however this isn't the deal to make. This isn't as stupid as the Cammalleri fiasco, but it is in the same vein.

Cole Caulifield · Dec 29, 2015

Habs13 said:
Listen, when I was 23, I was making far worse mistakes than he did - I turned it around after a pretty solid wake-up call and I think he deserves the chance to prove he has too.

Yes, and he will get one last chance... with Edmonton.

Provided that he finds his wallet..

Here's the thing. He had one year left on his deal, and we weren't going to sign him. And it seems obvious he wasn't going to be of any help to the team THIS season. So... we had one move left.

Alex514 · Dec 29, 2015

Des Louise said:
Yes, and he will get one last chance... with Edmonton.

Provided that he finds his wallet..

Here's the thing. He had one year left on his deal, and we weren't going to sign him. And it seems obvious he wasn't going to be of any help to the team THIS season. So... we had one move left.

I was listening to the show this morning and what they said was that a Wesmount Security Officer found his wallet in Westmount Square. Was he out at a bar late at night? possiblly.

Team_Spirit · Dec 29, 2015

Alex514 said:
I was listening to the show this morning and what they said was that a Wesmount Security Officer found his wallet in Westmount Square. Was he out at a bar late at night? possiblly.

lol what a tool

POWER FORWARD??? more like a bum who thinks he can pass the puck like Datsyuk.

baby lotion soft

groovejuice · Dec 30, 2015

Habs13 said:
Ahmen!

I really thought we had turned that corner when we traded for DSP, Kassian, had Big Mac developing and Tinordi knocking at the door! And then came Flynn, Mitchell, Byron, and the soft parade continued on.

What

Kojo · Dec 30, 2015

groovejuice said:
What

What indeed, those three players have nothing to do with the recent lack of success.

groovejuice · Dec 30, 2015

Kojo said:
What indeed, those three players have nothing to do with the recent lack of success.

I think, honestly we have the best bottom 6 in the league. That's not a Cup winning strategy.

Kojo · Dec 30, 2015

groovejuice said:
I think, honestly we have the best bottom 6 in the league. That's not a Cup winning strategy.

I would trade all of them for a top 6 winger if it was possible.

Kimota · Dec 31, 2015

Et le But said:
I'm not going to lose too much sleep over Kassian, as he's an enigma who teams have previously given up on, but the obsession with character is one of the problem that keeps Canadian teams from becoming contenders in the modern NHL - the Habs and Leafs especially pat themselves on the back for their tradition, which apparently includes filling the team with nothing but good ol' farmboys with no personalities based on some fictional blue collar image of a vanilla hockey player.

A few years ago the Leafs had a bunch of jerks with them like Colton Orr. Remember when they gave a beating to the Habs? And then how about the good old days of Tucker when Kovalev took his head off? Or Wendel Clark.

The Leafs have had less problems grafting jerks to their line-up over the years.

Habs though always has to have good little boys. Prust was a Godsend to us cause he wasn't that.

mariolemieux66 · Dec 31, 2015

Kimota said:
A few years ago the Leafs had a bunch of jerks with them like Colton Orr. Remember when they gave a beating to the Habs? And then how about the good old days of Tucker when Kovalev took his head off? Or Wendel Clark.

The Leafs have had less problems grafting jerks to their line-up over the years.

Habs though always has to have good little boys. Prust was a Godsend to us cause he wasn't that.

We were quite big 2 years ago with Parros, Murray, Moen, Prust, Tinordi, White, Weise, Bourque. ..

Habs13 · Dec 31, 2015

Kojo said:
What indeed, those three players have nothing to do with the recent lack of success.

I'm not a fan of soft players, especially in the bottom six, and that is what we have. That was my point. I know Flynn and Byron get a lot of love here - not players I enjoy watching, personally.

Bacchus1 · Jan 10, 2016

Interesting update on Kassian for those interested. Apparently he was an alcoholic and intends on working on it: http://www.theprovince.com/touch/story.html?id=11637767

Rapala · Jan 10, 2016

Bacchus1 said:
Interesting update on Kassian for those interested. Apparently he was an alcoholic and intends on working on it: http://www.theprovince.com/touch/story.html?id=11637767

He probably has more substance issues once he gets a few in him.
But if he can stop drinking all those should disappear also.
Good luck Kass.

NobleSix · Jan 10, 2016

Bacchus1 said:
Interesting update on Kassian for those interested. Apparently he was an alcoholic and intends on working on it: http://www.theprovince.com/touch/story.html?id=11637767

Very tough addiction to kick. Good luck to him, hope he pulls through it and comes out a much healthier and happier person.

Runner77 · Jan 10, 2016

Why doesn't he just keep personal info to himself. Focus on what needs to be done and stop yapping.

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