Rumor: Zach Werenski rejected trade to Dallas with NMC

[DopeyFish]

What is this guy doing?

forcing a trade to one team to lower the price most likely

at the same time trying to act like the victim to make the team look bad on top of it

 

[SnS]

What is this guy doing?

Trying to be a dictator and really stick it to Columbus is my guess.

 

[Peasy]

 

[Miro4Norris]

Which player has scored more goals in the NHL the last 9 years?

I am pretty sure the discussion was about today’s Matthews.

How does it affect to Werenski’s decision what Matthews did years ago in his prime?

 

[lanceuppercut75]

What is this guy doing?

He wants to force the team to keep him FOR NOW, wants to walk away in 2 years, and MIGHT let them trade him somewhere in between so they can get something for him.

Bro is working overtime to get the fans to turn on him.

 

[Viqsi]

It’s kinda of making me a little sad to hear Columbus fans getting the maple leafs treatment.

They are in a much more tenuous position with support for the team and security of their franchise. These guys are literally fighting for their hockey lives as fans right now and a bunch of jerks are treating them like they treat us leaf fans.

It’s not cool

Leaf fans really DGAF because we know our team is secure and has a huge history and is really the center of the hockey universe.

Columbus fans don’t deserve the vitriol and aren’t as well seasoned at dealing with it.

Just go back to making fun of us because Marner left and won the Stanley cup AND the Conn Smythe immediately!

thank you for noticing. it helps.

 

[Ice9]

What is this guy doing?

Trying to walk it all back!

“This wasn’t how any of this was supposed to work”!

 

[RSchmitz]

Technically you'd probably wanna look at advanced stats. A traditional stat sheet is unlikely to reflect the impact of what you are calling a "top defensive defenseman".

*Looks at advanced stats*

Says here Moser was the the best 5v5 GA/60 player in the league, the best xGF% defenseman in the league, the best high danger scoring chance % in the league, and 6th in Corsi. Idk, is that good?

 

[Peasy]

I am pretty sure the discussion was about today’s Matthews.

How does it affect to Werenski’s decision what Matthews did years ago in his prime?

I dont think Werenski has much concern about Matthews like you do considering its been reported he would accept a trade there.

 

[ShootIt]

What recent developments? That he vetoed a trade to Dallas?

I'm sure there's smoke with the rumor, but hate how vague they make it sound.

 

[AquiliniHurtsMySoul]

Werenski makes Hughes looks like a saint in comparison. What a f***ing twat.

Canucks at least got a solid return in a tough situation.

 

[DFC]

I mean going into next year. You think he's completely cooked? I know this year was bad. But that happens.

If you are comparing moser to the ghost of victor Hedman and the loss of raddysh ok. That's not exactly impressive.

If you are saying he is better than a healthy Hedman then yikes

I'm not saying Moser is a top 10 D in the league. If he was, we wouldn't be in this. He's a #1D. Probably 20-30 range league wide based on elite defense. He's not what Hedman used to be, and he's not what Werenski is now.

But he's a legit #1 for a team about to trade its #1 (very different kind of #1; I said previously we couldn't compete with the Harley offer). And he's signed long term to an extremely team friendly deal (Byram just signed for nearly double). Moser is a very valuable player. You won't find many TB fans who would ever take Sergachev back for him.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

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Uhhh...

Nylander
McCabe / Ekman-Larsson
Hildeby or Stolarz
1st round pick
Danford and/or Cowan
another pick
another prospect

for

Werenski
Marchenko
Merzlikins

?????

Not amazing value for CBJ but if it's the only team Werenski will waive for...

 

[DFC]

Werenski makes Hughes looks like a saint in comparison. What a f***ing twat.

Canucks at least got a solid return in a tough situation.

Jackets will too.

 

[GordieHoweHatTrick]

So you're saying if Werenski comes to Toronto, with the player Matthews is today, he's still better than those other 3 players when they were in Columbus?

IMO, Its debatable.

Absolutely. Even if any of those wingers put up more points, the product on the ice is far more complete with Matthew’s and Werenski on the ice than Werenski and whichever of those wingers you fancy most. The kicker is that their best numbers in Columbus are more comparable to Matthews’s worst season in Toronto. I gotta question whether you are actually serious with your comment and whether I’m wasting my time responding to a troll lol

 

[KniesMadeBradyCry]

He would be in Dallas.

Werenski is quite a bit better than Heiskanen, you’re right there!

 

[YMCMBYOLO]

Do you always concede a point by deflecting ? You ignore the reality of the current situation regarding werenski, the Bolts, and the Leafs and then ask me if Ive ever taken a debating course ? Not only do you not deal in reality, you are intellectually dishonest as well.

You are being dishonest considering you said leafs have a good prospect pool.

Forget what you already posted, huh?

 

[account deactivated]

*Looks at advanced stats*

Says here Moser was the the best 5v5 GA/60 player in the league, the best xGF% defenseman in the league, the best high danger scoring chance % in the league, and 6th in Corsi. Idk, is that good?

That might be pretty good. I wasn't disputing the assertion, just being pedantic. I'm a Stars fan, so I've seen my fair share of defensive guys who don't get credit in their careers (mainly Lindell over the years).

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Tampa? How are they going to afford him?

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

you're not wrong though, lol

I missed the memo? Was I supposed to start dragging the Jackets?

 

[account deactivated]

I missed the memo? Was I supposed to start dragging the Jackets?

You're supposed to stop being rational and just trash Werenski's selfishness in solidarity with the Jackets fans.

 

[ccman68]

I don’t think people understand how valuable of an asset Moser is. Signed for 8 years for way below market value. A worse player in Byram just got way more money and it’s not gonna get any easier to get top pairing D for cheap. For a team like Columbus that can’t keep their players the 8 years is even more valuable.

 

[RSchmitz]

That might be pretty good. I wasn't disputing the assertion, just being pedantic. I'm a Stars fan, so I've seen my fair share of defensive guys who don't get credit in their careers (mainly Lindell over the years).

It’s rare that someone makes me stop and look up a word

 

[Greek_physique]

Absolutely. Even if any of those wingers put up more points, the product on the ice is far more complete with Matthew’s and Werenski on the ice than Werenski and whichever of those wingers you fancy most. The kicker is that their best numbers in Columbus are more comparable to Matthews’s worst season in Toronto. I gotta question whether you are actually serious with your comment and whether I’m wasting my time responding to a troll lol

Its an honest debate...not sure why they comment automatically goes to "troll".

My point is Matthews isnt the same player he was 3 years ago. I live in Toronto and watch a lot of his games, and he's regressed.

Matthews is the more complete player, but at the same time, Panarin was a special talent as well..thats why I said it was debatable.

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

Not as much fun when the star player doesn't want to play for you, is it Stars fans