Post-Game Talk: Zach and Elvis put on a show, CBJ shut down FLA 4-1 in Bob's return to NationWide Arena

[sinDer]

I would put money on Florida being ahead of the Flyers in 5 games

Maybe,

But the problem is that the playoffs starts in April, not in 5 games...

 

[Mogo]

I wonder can we drop our GAA under 3.5 rest of the season

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

This team is soft, mentally weak, and inconsistent, and has been for years.

This is because almost every line is missing physicality, a wrecking ball that just wills their way to the puck and distributes it to the other players. Hubs and Barkov are pretty good at this but not on the same level as e.g. Gallagher. Barkov can be pushed to aside way too easily. This team is just a pushover. Dale and Q are trying to adjust this deficiency by advocating "team toughness". That just ain't gonna happen.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

I wonder can we drop our GAA under 3.5 rest of the season

Dale: "We just have to score at least six goals per game. We're too talented for anything less than that".

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Now that I think about it, last night was a fitting end to another decade of darkness. Lose to a team that was beatable because the other team showed more compete. Mediocrity at its finest.

 

[ProjectPanthers]

Did Hawk slam Q's daughter or something?

This team so obviously lacks intensity and grit, two things Hawk actually possesses and we continue to bench him.

It's mindboggling to me. This team feels very undercoached. I wonder just wtf Q is even doing? His strategies are awful and they clearly do not work.

 

[batting1k]

Did Hawk slam Q's daughter or something?

This team so obviously lacks intensity and grit, two things Hawk actually possesses and we continue to bench him.

It's mindboggling to me. This team feels very undercoached. I wonder just wtf Q is even doing? His strategies are awful and they clearly do not work.

Have to figure he'll be in tomorrow. If not then I don't know what to say. He should've been in after that embarrassing effort against Tampa.

 

[RainingRats]

This might be seen as a bad thing to say but I don’t think Barkov is a good captain.

I think we have a leadership issue and I don’t see enough out of him except for points.

Defensively he’s not as strong, he does vanish for stretches, and even though I don’t expect him to be impactful every game, he hasn’t been impactful in enough games. Watching other teams and their best player or captain, you see a more consistent effort to try to will a team to victory. Bergeron has always been like that. Eichel recently has taken that step forward. Malkin has been leading Pitt with all their injuries.

 

[batting1k]

This is his 4th year and missed playoffs every year he's been here. 4th year in a row may change his mind.
Expansion coming up, I think he knows he will be asked to waive.
Sucks because he is a great locker room guy and good PP threat while still having value

He's a total goofball and not someone I want helping run the room. Yeah, he keeps it light and he's good on the PP, the guys probably love him. But he's not the type of vet we need, I don't think he's keeping guys accountable as much as he is telling jokes and acting like a 12 year old.

 

[KW]

This might be seen as a bad thing to say but I don’t think Barkov is a good captain.

I think we have a leadership issue and I don’t see enough out of him except for points.

Defensively he’s not as strong, he does vanish for stretches, and even though I don’t expect him to be impactful every game, he hasn’t been impactful in enough games. Watching other teams and their best player or captain, you see a more consistent effort to try to will a team to victory. Bergeron has always been like that. Eichel recently has taken that step forward. Malkin has been leading Pitt with all their injuries.

That’s fair.

Unfortunately, it’s just like the team - best of a bunch of poor choices. Hubie wouldn’t be any/much better. Ekblad - just no. Yandle - geez no way. Tro - two years ago maybe.

There’s a reason why a team supposedly full of character guys had their fourth line center as captain, and that after not having a captain.

There really are times I wish I was another team fan....

 

[FrolikFan67]

Have to figure he'll be in tomorrow. If not then I don't know what to say. He should've been in after that embarrassing effort against Tampa.

I thought Greco would at least get one game by now and hasn’t, so you never know with these guys

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

He's a total goofball and not someone I want helping run the room. Yeah, he keeps it light and he's good on the PP, the guys probably love him. But he's not the type of vet we need, I don't think he's keeping guys accountable as much as he is telling jokes and acting like a 12 year old.

Have been open to trading him for a while now. One way to send a message is take all the fun out of the room.
Not sure what his value is though. He's due a $3 mil bonus in July so that's why I feel it'll wait until off season. Hes owed $13.2 mil over the last 3 years whch is decent pay/production rate but still has another $3 mil bonus in the UFA year. Retain 500k x 3 yrs and I'd hope to get a 1st + mid pick/mid level prospect from a contender who needs PP boost.

 

[Dread Clawz]

This might be seen as a bad thing to say but I don’t think Barkov is a good captain.

I think we have a leadership issue and I don’t see enough out of him except for points.

Defensively he’s not as strong, he does vanish for stretches, and even though I don’t expect him to be impactful every game, he hasn’t been impactful in enough games. Watching other teams and their best player or captain, you see a more consistent effort to try to will a team to victory. Bergeron has always been like that. Eichel recently has taken that step forward. Malkin has been leading Pitt with all their injuries.

It's not a bad thing. The captaincy was forced on him, not because he was the best available choice.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Have been open to trading him for a while now. One way to send a message is take all the fun out of the room.
Not sure what his value is though. He's due a $3 mil bonus in July so that's why I feel it'll wait until off season. Hes owed $13.2 mil over the last 3 years whch is decent pay/production rate but still has another $3 mil bonus in the UFA year. Retain 500k x 3 yrs and I'd hope to get a 1st + mid pick/mid level prospect from a contender who needs PP boost.

Too bad that Dale, and whoever his successor will be, is probably completely oblivious to what the defense actually needs due to #character and his relatively high production. The mgmt really gotta get their heads together and come to the conclusion that Yandle is totally irrelevant, probably a detriment to this team's success.

 

[Ratsreign]

Quite frankly, Torts had the better tactical play set up in this game. They got the lead and more or less kept the Panthers away from any quality chances and stood up at their blue line. Elvis saw most of everything coming quite clearly, maybe a couple of shots he didn't see that went wide and the one tipped in by Sceviour. Panthers had more offensive zone time and much more then they have had all season, more or less. But Jackets had them under control most of the night and took their chances. They didn't go end to end cause they would have lost if they did, they didn't play entertaining hockey but it was the right way for them and got the job done. Need more traffic in front of the net if all that zone time will count to something...

Tort's plan was play like the 90s Devils. They sat back and sheltered their goalie. They focused solely on D until a chance off a turnover, or a PP opportunity. It seemed they even put their crowd to sleep at times. Panthers have to find a way to adjust to the slogging game CBJ played last night.

 

[sinDer]

This might be seen as a bad thing to say but I don’t think Barkov is a good captain.

I think we have a leadership issue and I don’t see enough out of him except for points.

Defensively he’s not as strong, he does vanish for stretches, and even though I don’t expect him to be impactful every game, he hasn’t been impactful in enough games. Watching other teams and their best player or captain, you see a more consistent effort to try to will a team to victory. Bergeron has always been like that. Eichel recently has taken that step forward. Malkin has been leading Pitt with all their injuries.

This team has clearly a lack of leadership and it starts with the captain.

So you are right. Barkov is no C material. No one is actually, and that's a problem.

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

I disagree with the Florida was the better team sentiment. It was a 2017 Panthers game, all puck time but just perimeter shots. Bob was bad but scoring 1 wont win you any games. Not like Elvis stole the show, all his saves were routine.

 

[Android 16]

Losing culture still there. This game was just more proof.

 

[Mogo]

Now that I think about it, last night was a fitting end to another decade of darkness. Lose to a team that was beatable because the other team showed more compete. Mediocrity at its finest.

They were only missing 10 regulars and 2 more were injured during game

 

[Mogo]

It's not a bad thing. The captaincy was forced on him, not because he was the best available choice.

Oh if we just had our true captain here. Gudbrandon

 

[StrangeVision]

We're living through our worst case scenario of Bob busting in the regular season. I was prepared for some funky stuff in the playoffs, but I thought he would be a rock in the regular season. We were never going to win with Bob being even just pedestrian, he needed to be great. And he has been mediocre to bad with some greatness sprinkled in.

Vokoun was a guy who let in the occasional bad goal, but you knew in any game he let in a stinker he was going to have at least a couple game-savers, so you could ignore the bad ones. Bobrovsky is letting in stinkers at an alarming rate and he's not making up for it elsewhere.

 

[batting1k]

Imagine if our D could hit the net like Werenski does

 

[PSLguy]

 

[Dread Clawz]

Imagine if our D could hit the net like Werenski does

Hey hey, let's not get carried away here...

 

[Prominence Problem]

Some notes I made from the game:

- At 2:18 of the first, Tro had some nice moves. He weaved around some Defenders. I would like to see him at the end, instead of trying one more move, take the puck to the net. There was a clear openlane available. It's almost like he needs to take some pages out of Huby's book. Huby is also kind of an agitator, much like Tro.

- Panthers D is pretty soft. Stillman is a nice drink of water, had a few big hits. Brown can also hit really well, and Ek and Weegs are okay, the rest really can't throw the body around, that's not scaring anyone on the other team.

- Bob was shaky before the first commercial break, when his tribute video was played. I can imagine that was weighing on his mind. 7 years of a being a Blue Jacket with a lot of success, where he made his bread and butter, emotions were very high with him I would think.

- The one goal the Panthers scored was a beautiful tip by Skooter! Great work down low by that whole line. Toni deserved a fourth assist on that one, great work to strip the puck away. Strals had a nice shot. Him and Stillman played a really good game I thought together.

- The first half of the game, I thought our PP, as well as the PK did a very good job.

- The second Columbus goal was on the power play, and I thought Ek was running around a little too much obviously.

- The fourth Columbus goal again was a high blocker goal. That has been Bob's weakness all season, and it's getting very predictable. Hopefully he can figure that one out soon.