He got Veleno off the books next year. Yes he added Mrazek for a year, but I have a feelings one of our two young goalies are going to be part of a big offseason trade.
Yzerman is telling you his philosophy if you listen!
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Also have to fix the 5on5 scoring, last season we were 9th in goals for 5on5, 9th in PP % and 14th in PK %. I know we had a high shooting % and all those things.
This year we are 29th in goals for 5on5, 2nd in PP % and dead last in PK %.
Random digging Ottawa is dead last in 5on5 scoring but with 61 games played they have allowed 176 goals. We have allowed 202 goals with 63 games played.
This year we are 29th in goals for 5on5, 2nd in PP % and dead last in PK %.
Random digging Ottawa is dead last in 5on5 scoring but with 61 games played they have allowed 176 goals. We have allowed 202 goals with 63 games played.
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I understand what he is saying about “now is not the time” that’s fine, but this team has not improved, in fact regressed, since last year and drafting in the mid teens and seeing how much you can overpay on picked over free agents each summer is getting tired. He needs a roster shake up or some sort of plan that shows that the status quo is not acceptable, even if it’s taking a risk with roster players. The status quo is not sustainable. Even the Tigers are making moves and moving up
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Didn't listen his press. I know his philosophy it's draft players with higher floor and hope sealing will come. Shelter those players until they are ready. Bring mediocre unwanted from other teams players and hoping they will change .
With that philosophy expert at least one more year the same
With that philosophy expert at least one more year the same
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I mean.... logically I understand.
But how many "it's not the time" years do you get?
Like, I'm not asking that he wins a Cup this year or something silly like this. But you are six years in and honestly, the Wings feel further away from the playoffs this year than they did last year.
I have patience, but the reasoning for the Mrazek trade is just Yzerman dragging the nuts of contempt across the face of fans who have been patient and put up with this.
I would care a hell of a lot more about you being conservative and "we were worried about the type of goalies available next year" if you'd already made the playoffs in your time here. Take care of 2024 business and get into the playoffs before you worry about addressing 2025-26.
Yzerman has made his bed. He is banking on his draft picks, period. What I don’t see is any elite/superstar talent on the team or in the pipeline. And the most frustrating thing is, they don’t want to be bad enough to draft higher or are able to sign good enough free agents to get meaningfully better. Being stuck at drafting 8-14 just isn’t good enough. Worse, drafting higher IQ and high character guys with high floors but low ceilings gives you a team full of depth players.
In a way I’m hoping Larkin asks for a trade at this point and forces Yzerman’s hand.
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It's really unforgivable to have the Gus and Holl stink it up every night. Fabbro and Jokiharju would have been basically free pick ups. Why trade Maata if he wasn't making room for an upgrade? He was better than Gus and Holl, one of them could've been sent down.
We're 6 years in. Better players were on the team last year, they were traded. What's his plan?
Why did he wait so long before pullling the plug on Lalonde?
Something stinks with the pro-scouting, and Yzermans brother sticks out like a sore thumb.
For some reason he's put the team in purgatory, they're trying to compete but he won't commit. The team is now picking in the teens again.
People saying that a signing like Holl does not hurt the team does not understand the business side of hockey. There is no way Chris wouldn't be asking serious questions if Holl was signed for 10 million real American dollars and was spending his time in the American league. It's an error that hampers the team, just like the Mrazek deal.
The Wings are in a spot where some serious moves are needed to move the needle, but for some reason Yzerman doesn't leave room to alove for such moves. If Yzerman traded Walman to make room for Trouba, then you have to ask why he put himself in that to begin with
Rant over.
We're 6 years in. Better players were on the team last year, they were traded. What's his plan?
Why did he wait so long before pullling the plug on Lalonde?
Something stinks with the pro-scouting, and Yzermans brother sticks out like a sore thumb.
For some reason he's put the team in purgatory, they're trying to compete but he won't commit. The team is now picking in the teens again.
People saying that a signing like Holl does not hurt the team does not understand the business side of hockey. There is no way Chris wouldn't be asking serious questions if Holl was signed for 10 million real American dollars and was spending his time in the American league. It's an error that hampers the team, just like the Mrazek deal.
The Wings are in a spot where some serious moves are needed to move the needle, but for some reason Yzerman doesn't leave room to alove for such moves. If Yzerman traded Walman to make room for Trouba, then you have to ask why he put himself in that to begin with
Rant over.
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I just watched the Yzerman presser in its entirety.
The absolute farthest thing in his mind is any sense of urgency. He feels zero heat and it's not even a consideration to be aggressive to move things forward. He thinks it would be nice to make the playoffs but isn't going to push for it until the existing roster is already good enough to make it and do some damage.
Be ready for a relatively uneventful summer, a relatively uneventful next season, and further mediocrity until all the kids are on the roster and carrying the team.
I can understand being consistent with the patient approach he preached from the beginning. But taking it to this degree means that anybody who DOES prioritize wins and losses should stop watching for at least another year or two, because the holding pattern is in full effect.
The silver lining is that I know there's no point in paying to get ESPN+ (let alone FSND) for quite awhile yet. Wake me in 2027.
The absolute farthest thing in his mind is any sense of urgency. He feels zero heat and it's not even a consideration to be aggressive to move things forward. He thinks it would be nice to make the playoffs but isn't going to push for it until the existing roster is already good enough to make it and do some damage.
Be ready for a relatively uneventful summer, a relatively uneventful next season, and further mediocrity until all the kids are on the roster and carrying the team.
I can understand being consistent with the patient approach he preached from the beginning. But taking it to this degree means that anybody who DOES prioritize wins and losses should stop watching for at least another year or two, because the holding pattern is in full effect.
The silver lining is that I know there's no point in paying to get ESPN+ (let alone FSND) for quite awhile yet. Wake me in 2027.
Didn't people claim when the trade happened he was making room for the real deal.
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When these guys are here all the crying will stop.
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The team isn’t ready because he made the team worse after a surprise 91 point season last year. And by him not going for it but everyone else going for it, his refusal to make any improvements to the roster makes them worse.
Now this team is on a 5 game skid with a really, really tough schedule left. I’m tired of excusing Yzerman. His lack of assertiveness the last 2 seasons is going to land this team right where he found them. They are not so good that this team can sit back and wait to become good.
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Not really excuses just reading the cards. He thought we would be better than we were this season but we still have players in bound next season that likely will put us in the playoff race. I think if those players come out of the gate he will bolt on as early as next season. This is the last season of absolute bottom we have to endure. I would have liked playoffs as much as anyone but we get in and what then the team is not built for a run
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fan in me would have liked to see a move this past deadline. Maybe we could of outbid the panthers for seth jones and solidified the blue line.
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Maybe.
But Jones had full NMC, so he picked his destination to Florida.
Yzerman said that there was not really possible long-term deals available (mentioned Cozens possibility, price was extremely high even though Buffalo lost a bit on it).
And didn't want to go after rental UFAs. That's smart.
That's pretty clear. I was after some hockey trade, and guys who would sign long-term. Those weren't really in the market.
We'll probably do that when the time is right. Team has to be better than it currently is. It takes 1-2 years.
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Not shooting the messenger, but I would love to know what on earth led him to believe this.
In his own words, the focus was to improve defensively...so he continued to go the route of bargain bin defensemen and journeyman goaltending with Gustafsson and Talbot.
Did he think that Seider and Edvinsson would play 60 minutes a night? Or that the bump from the coaching change would magically last the entire season? (Or that the unsustainable shooting percentage from last year would somehow get even better?)
There's no connecting the dots here to build on good young players by adding... Wait for it... GOOD players. For any South Park fans out there, this is starting to sound a lot like Underpants Gnomes kinda logic. Step 1: draft well. Step 3: profit.
