just like regular season, playoffs stats mean nothing unless you get to lift the cup. Kucherov is certainly more successful in both the stats and the cups. Draisaitl must have pretty crazy playoffs stats as well but they mean nothing when you dont win it. Kadri > Draisaitl when it comes to 'games that really matter' as per you but it doesnt change the value of Draisaitl or McDavid.
The rudeness is uncalled for. Adults are conversing here; go away until you can conduct yourself as one.
Matthews has zero value value to the Oilers with out a new contract. Plus we couldn't fit Marner and Matthews under the cap.
Draisaitl has averaged 1.643 pts/gm, McDavid is at 1.5. The fact that they don't have 100 games played is a team issue, not a conseqeunce of their lack of production. Kucherov's most productive year in the palyoffs was 34 points in 25 games. McDavid had 33 last year in 16 games and Draisaitl had 32 playing on one leg.
What are you talking about?
I’m not saying they aren’t valuable players. I just take issue with the idea that McDavid is “BY FAR” the most valuable player in the league. If you’re only looking at regular season performances then sure, but once you take the postseason into account there’s a strong case to be made for Kucherov. Like I said, McDavid is a bit younger and will probably get there before all is said and done, and I don’t think it’s unfair even now to say that he’s the best player in the league, but the idea that he’s so much more valuable than any other player that he would be worth multiple elite players in return is a bit over the top. That’s all I’m saying.
Go figure we would have a bitter Kings fan in this thread. We have help the Kings so much over the years you should be thankful. Spitting on a 9 year old girl with brain cancer tell me everything I need to know. Yes there can be a bad apple but Kings fans were defending it. If an Oiler fan did this I would hope the Oilers tracked him down and band him for life.Mcdavid + what for Bedard?
I mean yeah but you pretty much kill the benefit of getting McDavid by forcing the rebuild to start from scratch.
Last year was indeed incredible, and like I’ve said repeatedly now if they keep this up they too will establish themselves among the game’s playoff greats. But it’s still a small sample size and heavily dependent on a single amazing postseason (which is why a minimum number of games matters when discussing such things), and when you’ve got guys like Kucherov and Point who have consistently put up numbers that rank them among the legends of the sport, the idea that McDavid and Draisaitl are “BY FAR” more valuable than them is simply ridiculous.
And we gifted you heartbreak when nurse wouldnt let Kesler get off your goalie in 2017, then you gifted nurse 9.5 million to be a #4 dmen.
You don't believe there's a large gap between McDavid & Kucherov....?
This is wrong their teams has done more not the player themselves. How many awards do they have vs McDavid? If Edmonton had an elite goalie I bet they would've won last year. Mike Smith killed them but let blame McDavid and Draisaitl for not going further in the playoffs
Considering that Edmonton is no shoe in to win the cup this year even with the talents they have around McDavid, trading most of Anaheim's best young forwards (including this hypothetical Bedard result), their best defensive prospect and more picks, yeah. I'd say Anaheim would be stuck with 2-3 blue chip prospects/young potential stars (McTavish, Dostal and Zellweger), a bunch of warm bodies that were signed to be rebuild filler, some project prospects, and one Connor McDavid in his prime. Unless Verbeek absolutely kills it in the free agency market, that's barely a competitive team. McDavid can't do it all by himself. Realistically, a trade like that happens and if Verbeek doesn't make mistakes building around 97 you're looking at a potential contender as McDavid is nearing the end of his prime at best.
Draisaitl has 69 playoff points in 42 games. He has never had fewer than 1.2 pts/gm in any playoff year. Point has 82 points in 80 games with his 33 in 23 being the only year he was over 1 pt/gm. (He was exactly 1 pt/gm in 2020-21 and is at 1 point/game this year.
