GDT: Your New Jersey Devils (18-10-2, 38 Pts) vs. Toronto Maple Leafs (16-9-2, 34 Pts), 7 PM, ESPN+/Hulu

[Louskoolaid89]

Cory somehow (and wrongfully) developed that kind of reputation for allowing a goal with 9 minutes left on the 35th shot he faced in a game where we we were up 1-0. One of the best games he ever played here was a game against Pittsburgh in I think 14-15 when the N. Bench was the coaching staff. It was scoreless most of the game and we went up 1-0. They had about 35-40 shots before they finally scored one on him late in regulation, and I think they won the game in OT 2-1.

Cory from 2016 on wasn't good and was dreadfully bad after the 2018 playoffs, but Cory between 2013 and 2016 was far too good for the teams we had.

I think Cory would tell you that he would have loved to have played for this current team in his prime. He did play for a cup finalist in Vancouver once, but this team is astronomically better than anything he played for while here.

I could totally see prime Cory sporting a .920% on this team.

And he wouldn't have held back the Chicago teams of that era from winning if he was the Cory in net instead of the highly overrated Cory Crawford. A B level goalie lucky to be part of a Dynasty team. People remember him being a champion goalie but, not his actual play. Which was good enough but, not great. Still a nice way to be remembered for sure. Rather have that hardware then say the Swedish Mattress Queen who didn't lift the cup in his illustrious HOF career.

 

[Call Me Al]

you don’t trade a first round pick and promising young d for “average goaltending.” i guess that’s my problem. being better than the last couple years’ is a pretty low bar, and with how good our defense has been in limiting chances there are probably a handful of goalies who could have been had for nothing that could put up similar performances.

i just thought it was weird that they telegraphed that they wanted this goalie and only this goalie, then basically outbid themselves for him.

anyway i still think our goalie coach sucks and a change there could probably do wonders

i’m not worried about the offense though. dry spells happen but this team is too talented and has been playing well enough on the whole to push through it

 

[Bleedred]

And he wouldn't have held back the Chicago teams of that era from winning if he was the Cory in net instead of the highly overrated Cory Crawford. A B level goalie lucky to be part of a Dynasty team. People remember him being a champion goalie but, not his actual play. Which was good enough but, not great. Still a nice way to be remembered for sure. Rather have that hardware then say the Swedish Mattress Queen who didn't lift the cup in his illustrious HOF career.

I actually Crawford was underrated, and one of the few goalies who was underrated by being on a stacked team. Usually being on a stacked team overrates goalies, like Niemi when he was with the Sharks.

But Cory before his untimely demise was a better goalie than Crawford, but Crawford maintained his play into 30s, which Cory did not. So it's hard to place Cory Schneider ahead of Corey Crawford on an all time list.

 

[Oneiro]

They were always going to get older on defense and they were always going to try to get a name goalie. The first is already relatively meaningless considering this is, at worst, a playoff team.

I think Logan Thompson probably could've been had but we went with the established guy because Fitz was done with betting on youth. Everything that's been done is about being a contending team now and there is no youth development going on at the NHL level anymore. A kid either does what Stankoven and Johnston have done or they're in Utica, college or whatever.

I don't think it's controversial to say that Schneider was probably better than everyone not named Price or Rinne for those 3-4 years. No one would fault you for saying that.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

you don’t trade a first round pick and promising young d for “average goaltending.” i guess that’s my problem. being better than the last couple years’ is a pretty low bar, and with how good our defense has been in limiting chances there are probably a handful of goalies who could have been had for nothing that could put up similar performances.

i just thought it was weird that they telegraphed that they wanted this goalie and only this goalie, then basically outbid themselves for him.

anyway i still think our goalie coach sucks and a change there could probably do wonders

i’m not worried about the offense though. dry spells happen but this team is too talented and has been playing well enough on the whole to push through it

You can definitely justify trading that for an average goaltender that you can reasonably expect ~60 games out of (hit that number 3 times plus 59 once). But more importantly, he was well above average last season with ~14 goals saved above expected per moneypuck.

 

[jkrdevil]

We're leaving points on the table.

Not enough to cost them a playoff spot and 3v3 doesn’t exist come playoff time.

 

[MasterofGrond]

We have not seen the best out of Markstrom. Doesn’t mean we won’t, though. He’s had rough patches before and then returned to playing very well.

If he’s on in April are you gonna be mad he was average in December?

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

We have not seen the best out of Markstrom. Doesn’t mean we won’t, though. He’s had rough patches before and then returned to playing very well.

If he’s on in April are you gonna be mad he was average in December?

No, but you can't just assume he'll turn it around. The Devils offense has bailed him consistently and we haven't seen him truly win a game on his own this year. Like others said last night, he virtually got gifted one of the best situations you can ask for a goalie last night and he still blew it. Allen's won a game with the Devils getting caved this year but the prized trade guy hasn't which is a bit annoying.

Not enough to cost them a playoff spot and 3v3 doesn’t exist come playoff time.

Doesn't matter, seeding still will matter a ton to this team. Maybe at this point, it's better they start on the road with how porous they are at home.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Cory somehow (and wrongfully) developed that kind of reputation for allowing a goal with 9 minutes left on the 35th shot he faced in a game where we we were up 1-0. One of the best games he ever played here was a game against Pittsburgh in I think 14-15 when the N. Bench was the coaching staff. It was scoreless most of the game and we went up 1-0. They had about 35-40 shots before they finally scored one on him late in regulation, and I think they won the game in OT 2-1.

Cory from 2016 on wasn't good and was dreadfully bad after the 2018 playoffs, but Cory between 2013 and 2016 was far too good for the teams we had.

I think Cory would tell you that he would have loved to have played for this current team in his prime. He did play for a cup finalist in Vancouver once, but this team is astronomically better than anything he played for while here.

I could totally see prime Cory sporting a .920% on this team.

Schneider was awesome the first half of 17-18 tbf