Value of: Your goaler to the Avs

bernmeister

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How does that improve the Avs? What's the point of even posting that?

Avs are going to be stuck most likely. There's no way they pay more than a 1st for a goalie. And the quality of net minders for that price will probably be poor. So bargain bin it, wait til UFA and overpay someone or hope Justus steps up and Nabokov is the hero in 1-2 years.
you can certainly accept poor net minders for a bottom price if that is yr choice
I said that atm, Shesty is possibly available, but he is not available for cheap, b'c Rs can still go 12.25 ish x 4 and get it done if they have to, and there are gonna be 4-ish or so bidders w/high end offers.

So any bidder needs to recognize Shesty is elite, Vezina quality, entering prime, and offer accordingly.
In case of Avs, I don't expect there is any currency acceptable other than MacKinnon.

If you don't want to go there, fine, no prob.
But it is elite for elite and it is not an insulting premise
 

bernmeister

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Anyone who thinks they’re getting MacKinnon for a goalie needs to seriously re-evaluate things
Like I said, you don't wanna go there, aim lower and get what you pay for
But that said, it is disingenuous to characterize this as MacK for "a goalie"
Shesty is elite vez quality entering his prime
that is not, in all fairness "a goalie"
 

Coffees

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May I grab your attention for a slightly used and worn down Matthew Murray?

He’s got the Stanley cup pedigree and I’ve heard his glove hand is lethal for shooters

Ok I’ll see myself out
No. You don’t need to go anywhere, you belong to stay here with us.

all humour is subjective
 

IWantSakicAsMyGM

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From what I remember trading Kovalenko and some other guys for a goalie from Montreal worked pretty fine last time.

From what I remember, the goalie we got from Montreal in that trade had 2 Cups, 3 Vezinas and 2 Smythes before he came to Colorado. If you've got another one of those lying around somewhere, I'm pretty sure we can work something out again.

Otherwise, you may want to look at the Theodore for Aebischer trade as a better comparable.
 

lionsDen

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I feel like Blackwood is just another Georgiev. Very talented but has lacked focus and has had more than 40 starts only once and that was years ago. And no playoff experience.

Unless the proposition is just “swap our enigma for yours, with salary evened out” as simply a change of scenery move, I don’t see it.

The Avs should be looking for experience. There’s no reason so add another “maybe” to a group that now includes Kahkonen, Georgiev and Annunen.

My guess is the Avs will not panic nearly as much as fans are two games into the season. They’ll give KK a run, probably try Georgiev again at some point and also see how Annunen does in some games where he’s not thrown into a dejected fire pit that Georgiev has started. Surely they cannot go into next spring with this arrangement, but they don’t need to throw stuff against the wall right now. Claiming Kahkonen was their “let’s just give this a try, it’s only October” move.
This ain’t an October meltdown. This dates back to the playoffs with seattle
 

lionsDen

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There was a published article says Kings want to go hard after Shesterkin if he does not extend w/Rs
If that is the case then
preference is Shesty + Zib for Byfield + Anderson = ballpark cap works + fits needs

If that is not the case then we an talk
Shesty + Zib for MacKinnon + __________________
or just something around Shesty for MacK if Zib doesn't waive or Avs do not want

Howev
No MacK
no deal
backup plan is Shesty + Zib ++ for Nylander +Knies + +
Without Mack it’s all useless.
 

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