Your 2019-20 Expectations

[Mac n Gs]

Love when RB states things that are unequivocally untrue as fact.

In: Panarin, Kakko, Trouba

Out: Hayes, Zucc, Pionk

Sounds like a pretty even swap to me!

 

[CasusBelli]

In: Panarin, Kakko, Trouba

Out: Hayes, Zucc, Pionk

Sounds like a pretty even swap to me!

In: Vesey out.

 

[bernmeister]

The Rangers were on pace for 83 points last season. The Rangers traded Kevin Hayes and Mats Zuccarello. The Rangers went 5-10-5 after the deadline. It was something like that. The Rangers ended up with 78 points. Subtract those two players and add Artemi Panarin upfront and Jacob Trouba on D. It’s a wash.

The Rangers 2nd line center is Ryan Strome. Chris Kreider’s production is going to suffer. He had 28 goals playing mostly with Mika Zibanejad and some with Hayes. Hopefully it doesn’t hurt his trade value.

The Rangers are young at center and on D. They are only the two most important positions on the team. It’s disappointing Filip Chytil had a bad camp. Brett Howden was not much better. Lias Andersson had a very good camp. Libor Hájek has 5 career NHL games on his resume. Adam Fox has no pro experience at all on any level.

It’s going to be a long season. The Rangers finish up between #6-#10 in the lottery. The best thing for the organization. The Rangers sell off at the trading deadline. See ya Chris.

Or Rangers could roll w a first line of KK, Krav and Pana
allowing Zib to 2nd line + keep magic w/Kreider
whether he should pivot that line or play 2RW is another ?.

 

[Cag29]

woah are you serious guys?

Summer transfer to New York Rangers:
- Trouba
- Panarin
- Fox


Won the #2nd overall draft lottery Kakko - I expect playoffs and so many believe he can maybe be a generational talent as well!

- Kravtsov from last year draft 9th overall!

I sometimes believe some agenda here to protect our GM if they somehow fail to reach playoffs!

Patience.

 

[Ori]

yap yap yap yap

 

[mike14]

My expectations are pretty low in terms of the overall season. We'll finish a few points up on last season but not really be in the wildcard hunt. Should be drafting around 10th assuming no crazy lottery balls.

Would like to see us implement a game plan that is good to watch and should allow us to be successful with a little bit experience coming through

 

[leetch99]

I hate to say it....but I think we are playoff bound . I could have handled a non playoff season once again but with what we have added and what might come back to the team after New Years in the kids that were sent to the AHL...and an improved offensive output by our strengthened right side D....I easily enough can see us in the post season . A crack at a top 3 pick would have been great but it is what it is and it is New York . I doubt brass waits another season and will make the moves that gives us a great shot at post season .

 

[B17 Apricots]

I think we re-sign Prospal and Kostka to long term deals, just hitting their prime, great assets

 

[SA16]

My expectation is the team won't make the playoffs if they go into it with the attitude that they can't make the playoffs and intentionally play bad players in big roles. Otherwise, who knows, tons of variance with this roster.

 

[Fugazy]

I think we re-sign Prospal and Kostka to long term deals, just hitting their prime, great assets

Now I have PTSD from that game against the Islanders...

 

[Gardner McKay]

I'm expecting a rough first half of the season where the team is bottom-5 in the standings but players work hard. Goalie controversy and whinging about Quinn over-playing vets and not gifting kids top-six and top-4 minutes. Strome crippling the assured-dominance of Kreider and Kakko on a line. Staal dragging down everyone on the blue line. McKegg, Fast, and Names all getting far too much time out of the press box. Quinn's clear North American bias as he puts Howden, Nieves, and Lindgren in the lineup over Hajek, Rykov, and Kravtsov. Frantic waiving of spreadsheets and *****ing about 'toffnuss' and intangibles. Calls for Quinn to be fired before the new year.

Then sometime around January some players start to find their game. The team starts to creep out of the bottom-5 and fans panic about the team's lack of a plan and assume they'll be buyers at the deadline. Rumors start flying about DeAngelo holding the team hostage after building on a great season and whether or not they should trade him at the deadline. A random post by a "long-time-lurker" asking if we should trade Panarin for some lottery team's unprotected first so we have a better shot of getting Byfield, the center we desperately need. Dagoon shows up to complain that we don't respect him and to remind us that Hank is in fact, deep down, a huge ****. Some new fancy metric is released showing that Corsi isn't granular enough and that "times a player thought about attempting a shot" -- or "TAP-ThAAS" -- is indeed a higher-frequency event and thus the new standard. However, the only way to view the accurate stats model is through an Oculus VR headset while chanting "Dan Girarid was never a top pairing defensemen." Chaos ensues. Ultimately all coinciding with the team trading Kreider, Fast, and Names just before the final moments for way less than people think the market should've dictated -- largely due to the fact that someone reminded us that Paul Gaustad once returned a 1st at the deadline, ergo Kreider should've returned at least 4. In the distance, calls for signing Nakladal.

Kravtsov and Chytil are recalled from The Pack to replace Kreider and the others. They struggle. The team lands in the 9th spot again. The rebuild is deemed a failure. ODC blames McIralth. Edge finally starts swearing at people regularly in his posts. MSG is in flames. Lias Andersson is named interim-GM for some reason after Gorton flees the country.

I don't know how you came up with this, but after 12+ years on this site this is now officially my favorite post of all time.

 

[Edge]

I'm expecting a rough first half of the season where the team is bottom-5 in the standings but players work hard. Goalie controversy and whinging about Quinn over-playing vets and not gifting kids top-six and top-4 minutes. Strome crippling the assured-dominance of Kreider and Kakko on a line. Staal dragging down everyone on the blue line. McKegg, Fast, and Names all getting far too much time out of the press box. Quinn's clear North American bias as he puts Howden, Nieves, and Lindgren in the lineup over Hajek, Rykov, and Kravtsov. Frantic waiving of spreadsheets and *****ing about 'toffnuss' and intangibles. Calls for Quinn to be fired before the new year.

Then sometime around January some players start to find their game. The team starts to creep out of the bottom-5 and fans panic about the team's lack of a plan and assume they'll be buyers at the deadline. Rumors start flying about DeAngelo holding the team hostage after building on a great season and whether or not they should trade him at the deadline. A random post by a "long-time-lurker" asking if we should trade Panarin for some lottery team's unprotected first so we have a better shot of getting Byfield, the center we desperately need. Dagoon shows up to complain that we don't respect him and to remind us that Hank is in fact, deep down, a huge ****. Some new fancy metric is released showing that Corsi isn't granular enough and that "times a player thought about attempting a shot" -- or "TAP-ThAAS" -- is indeed a higher-frequency event and thus the new standard. However, the only way to view the accurate stats model is through an Oculus VR headset while chanting "Dan Girarid was never a top pairing defensemen." Chaos ensues. Ultimately all coinciding with the team trading Kreider, Fast, and Names just before the final moments for way less than people think the market should've dictated -- largely due to the fact that someone reminded us that Paul Gaustad once returned a 1st at the deadline, ergo Kreider should've returned at least 4. In the distance, calls for signing Nakladal.

Kravtsov and Chytil are recalled from The Pack to replace Kreider and the others. They struggle. The team lands in the 9th spot again. The rebuild is deemed a failure. ODC blames McIralth. Edge finally starts swearing at people regularly in his posts. MSG is in flames. Lias Andersson is named interim-GM for some reason after Gorton flees the country.

I like the part where I essentially go over the deep end.

#NFLTG

 

[offdacrossbar]

too much default negativity here. if healthy, we can grab a spot. absolutely.

look, the blues went from worst to first. vegas has gone from nothing to what some believe are serious cup contenders in no time.

you add panarin, trouba, kakko, fox and probably kravtsov. CK still here and motivated.

full season of lemmy and ADA plus improved chad and who knows with filip.

hayes and zuc are gone along with pionk and vesey. a mostly hurt shatty was shown the door.

lets compare

panarin better than anyone we had last year and top 5 forward in the league. enormous plus
trouba in and replacing top line minutes given to pionk last year. giant plus
kakko will be the calder winner. 25-25/50+ expected. instant injection of talent plus.
fox could push for calder too. adding another PMD with ability to play like a vet. huge plus

the PP should be- based upon what we saw so far this preseason, more dangerous and top 7 imo, and the PK will be improved as well. the PP passing we saw was crisp and that big shot up top is something we haven't had in forever.

hank and georgie are the wild cards. play well, face less high danger chances and stay healthy, and this team can push for a playoff spot. less work for hank and more games for the reliable georgie.

this team can make the playoffs.

 

[BKGooner]

I think we re-sign Prospal and Kostka to long term deals, just hitting their prime, great assets

Don't forget Petr Prucha - you can pencil that uy in for 30 every year.

 

[BKGooner]

I am looking forward to a more competitive team, watching the kids grow, just missing the playoffs in the last month of the season as players who have never gotten near 82 games hit the wall and then witnessing some lottery magic again. Just looking for top 5 - nothing crazy.
Can't leave out the excitement of the first time Hank stares down his d after a questionable goal every season.

 

[Rangers in 7]

im expecting somewhere around 82-86 points and we will finish with somewhere between the 7th and 10th best lottery odds

dont get me wrong the team will be fun to watch this season though

 

[CasusBelli]

Don't forget Petr Prucha - you can pencil that uy in for 30 every year.

Maybe we can sign Bertuzzi — he had some good chemistry with Naslund.

 

[NYR]

I expect this team to be slightly improved but still a train wreck defensively.
You can't really say they're much stronger down the middle right now either.

Lottery here we come and with this coming draft looking as strong as it does, I'm OK with it at this point.

Hopefully they dump Names, Strome, maybe Smith for some solid prospects/picks.
I also think Kreider is a goner.

Hopefully next year we start playing for keeps because this isn't gonna be that year..

 

[Mac n Gs]

I expect this team to be slightly improved but still a train wreck defensively.
You can't really say they're much stronger down the middle right now either.

Lottery here we come and with this coming draft looking as strong as it does, I'm OK with it at this point.

Hopefully they dump Names, Strome, maybe Smith for some solid prospects/picks.
I also think Kreider is a goner.

Hopefully next year we start playing for keeps because this isn't gonna be that year..

Which I think is a fine expectation for this year as long as we see steps in the right direction. This offseason helped them solidify long-term pieces at key positions for the franchise, and the main goal for this season should be helping develop that 20-23 year old group of players into the next Rangers core.

If they keep making the same stupid fundamental breakdowns defensively, I want Ruff gone.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I expect them to be improved from last season as a team. I expect certain players to truly show themselves in one way or another such as Buchnevich and Skjei who are coming to a crucial part of their Ranger careers where they can potentially cement themselves as key pieces long-term, cap implications aside. Hopefully we see the likes of youngsters make a name for themselves, and if the team is going to be anywhere near a playoff spot I think that has to happen. Improved defensive structure and results, and a more potent offensive attack. In the end I think they probably miss out on the playoffs but maybe that's for the best.

 

[NYR]

Which I think is a fine expectation for this year as long as we see steps in the right direction. This offseason helped them solidify long-term pieces at key positions for the franchise, and the main goal for this season should be helping develop that 20-23 year old group of players into the next Rangers core.

If they keep making the same stupid fundamental breakdowns defensively, I want Ruff gone.

When I try to evaluate a team, any team, I immediately think playoffs because that's ultimately where teams are judged.
Having a good regular season is all fine and dandy but it's how they stack up in real games that they're measured but that's just me.

As far as development, I fully expect the kids to make progress this year but at the same time in the back of my head I'm a little irked at the fact that the NYR aren't a developmental league.
They're for the finished product and I'll leave it at that.

As far as systems go.. There's really not much to dislike when they're going forward.
It's getting back into position on D that's troublesome to me.
Forwards never get back in time and there is a serious flaw in structure.
Do I like Ruff? Not really but at the end of the day, Ruff has to adhere to the head coaches system and similar to AV, they're gonna go through a bunch of different D coaches only to end up with the same results.

Obviously I don't have a crystal ball but that's the way I see things playing out..

 

[Mac n Gs]

When I try to evaluate a team, any team, I immediately think playoffs because that's ultimately where teams are judged.
Having a good regular season is all fine and dandy but it's how they stack up in real games that they're measured but that's just me.

As far as development, I fully expect the kids to make progress this year but at the same time in the back of my head I'm a little irked at the fact that the NYR aren't a developmental league.
They're for the finished product and I'll leave it at that.

As far as systems go.. There's really not much to dislike when they're going forward.
It's getting back into position on D that's troublesome to me.
Forwards never get back in time and there is a serious flaw in structure.
Do I like Ruff? Not really but at the end of the day, Ruff has to adhere to the head coaches system and similar to AV, they're gonna go through a bunch of different D coaches only to end up with the same results.

Obviously I don't have a crystal ball but that's the way I see things playing out..

Eh, the trend for the last few seasons is to play your younger talent early and often to get them going. This younger generation seems pretty up to the task, and it's evident based on how many great players there are around the league between 21-26 years old.

As for the structure, a lot stems from them overcommitting on the forecheck/pinches and leaving themselves prone to odd-man rushes on the counterattack. The forwards he shown to be really poor at making reads off backchecks and the dmen poor at handling those 2-on-1s.

 

[Anzi]

Was curious about what the O/U for points scored was for some of our guys to get a rough idea of what the expectations should be.

Panarin: 85.5

Zibanejad: 69.5

Kakko: 55.5

Zibanejad's seems pretty low but I'd be happy with somewhere in that ballpark for Kakko. For comparison, Hughes is at 65.5 which is the 2nd highest on the Devils, after Hall and ahead of Hischier.

 

[Barnaby]

I'm expecting a rough first half of the season where the team is bottom-5 in the standings but players work hard. Goalie controversy and whinging about Quinn over-playing vets and not gifting kids top-six and top-4 minutes. Strome crippling the assured-dominance of Kreider and Kakko on a line. Staal dragging down everyone on the blue line. McKegg, Fast, and Names all getting far too much time out of the press box. Quinn's clear North American bias as he puts Howden, Nieves, and Lindgren in the lineup over Hajek, Rykov, and Kravtsov. Frantic waiving of spreadsheets and *****ing about 'toffnuss' and intangibles. Calls for Quinn to be fired before the new year.

Then sometime around January some players start to find their game. The team starts to creep out of the bottom-5 and fans panic about the team's lack of a plan and assume they'll be buyers at the deadline. Rumors start flying about DeAngelo holding the team hostage after building on a great season and whether or not they should trade him at the deadline. A random post by a "long-time-lurker" asking if we should trade Panarin for some lottery team's unprotected first so we have a better shot of getting Byfield, the center we desperately need. Dagoon shows up to complain that we don't respect him and to remind us that Hank is in fact, deep down, a huge ****. Some new fancy metric is released showing that Corsi isn't granular enough and that "times a player thought about attempting a shot" -- or "TAP-ThAAS" -- is indeed a higher-frequency event and thus the new standard. However, the only way to view the accurate stats model is through an Oculus VR headset while chanting "Dan Girarid was never a top pairing defensemen." Chaos ensues. Ultimately all coinciding with the team trading Kreider, Fast, and Names just before the final moments for way less than people think the market should've dictated -- largely due to the fact that someone reminded us that Paul Gaustad once returned a 1st at the deadline, ergo Kreider should've returned at least 4. In the distance, calls for signing Nakladal.

Kravtsov and Chytil are recalled from The Pack to replace Kreider and the others. They struggle. The team lands in the 9th spot again. The rebuild is deemed a failure. ODC blames McIralth. Edge finally starts swearing at people regularly in his posts. MSG is in flames. Bernmeister is named interim-GM for some reason after Gorton flees the country.

Fixed

 

[NYR]

Eh, the trend for the last few seasons is to play your younger talent early and often to get them going. This younger generation seems pretty up to the task, and it's evident based on how many great players there are around the league between 21-26 years old.

As for the structure, a lot stems from them overcommitting on the forecheck/pinches and leaving themselves prone to odd-man rushes on the counterattack. The forwards he shown to be really poor at making reads off backchecks and the dmen poor at handling those 2-on-1s.

I'm fully on-board with playing the kids providing they aren't just thrown to the wolves like last year.
That's why I don't mind Chytil and Kravtsov being sent down.

That said..I think as of right now things begin and end with the system.

Everything you mentioned is a big problem and it goes way beyond that.
It needs to be fixed especially when you have a young roster that still has quite a few holes in it.
Being thin at center just compounds the problem on the defensive side of things so that's when you have to utilize the system to in order to isolate your weakness.

I'm not saying to lock everything down and bring back Lemaire but things need to be simplified a bit until these kids are ready to take the next step, man on man is a disaster for this line up as currently constructed.
After that, then you can advance things..