Proposal: You are a rebuilding team looking to sell? Montréal has a bunch of picks for a center

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What kinda C u thinking about? Im assuming Suzuki is the #1 C moving forward. so if ur after a #2 C might as well just target one in Free Agency. why spend to get a guy that will be available for free?

MTL isn't in a position to be buying right now and without Reinbacher/Demidov available a true #1 is outta the question.

also dont buy when your so close to getting another top 10 pick. might just push you outside of it.

I think MTL would be best fitted to address these needs in the offseason and beyond.

I'm not dumb enough to expect a 100 points+ player, but I feel like a team that is going down no matter what might want to crash as fast as it can to exit a rebuild as fast as it can, and we can help with that

The player would play behind Suzuki, yes

I think that EP40 or Barzal should be what we go for
 
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I'm not dumb enough to expect a 100 points+ player, but I feel like a team that is going down no matter what might want to crash as fast as it can to exit a rebuild as fast as it can, and we can help with that

The player would play behind Suzuki, yes

I think that EP40 or Barzal should be what we go for
wouldnt be a bad idea but I think it would be best to address this in the offseason if possible. try and grab that likely last top 10 pick and move forward from there
 
Cozens is probably the only one that would fit/is available, but it would likely need to be a three-way because I don't think Buffalo is looking for picks either.

I don't think Buffalo would be willing to enter another rebuild, but if they're to do it, might as well go for Thompson and/or Dahlin (in which case, Demidov and Reinbacher would then be on the table, for those kind of players)
 
Barzal's been a mess this year and scores at a 54pt pace. A 9m cap hit for a 54pt player is laughable, NYI will be paying team to take him off their hands. He's been barely a PPG player in his career, with several notable down years, and he's not got any special bona fides in terms of intangibles etc. He's not known for his physical play or his defensive acumen or his shot.

I'm not sure what you're expecting in terms of trade offers but he will be moved for middle6ers, prospects, and picks at best.

I'd throw a bunch of 1st round picks for him
The two 1st rounders we have in 2025 and unrestricted 2026 1st would be part of the package for sure



Want nothing to do with EP40
I do
Next year:
Demidov - EP40 - Laine is a f***ing sexy line, if you ask me
 
I'm not dumb enough to expect a 100 points+ player, but I feel like a team that is going down no matter what might want to crash as fast as it can to exit a rebuild as fast as it can, and we can help with that

The player would play behind Suzuki, yes

I think that EP40 or Barzal should be what we go for
Hell no to $11.6 m EP 40.
 
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Calgary 1st 2025
Habs 1st 2025
Habs 1st 2026 - unprotected
Owen Beck

for

Sidney Crosby

Crosby is my boi, he's my favorite player in the league, but he's way to old, for us giving up this package

Lube.

Because we’d need it for the pounding the rebuild is about to take.


It doesn't have to be that painful

Habs took about 4 years to do it. Sharks are about to exit it too. It's not so bad, if you embrace it, go full steam ahead and load up in assets. Obviously a solid front office is needed too.
 
Doesnt matter what happens, we are still sellers.
Depends what you mean by sellers. You'll be sorely disappointed if you think they'll sell off all vets for 3rd and 4th round picks. They'll just keep them for the final stretch since they're in the mix, They've pretty much said as much.
 
Isles aren’t in rebuilding mode. It would be a retool to move out the aging veterans and build up with youth that can play under Roy. Moving Barzal for a hockey trade that doesn’t include atleast a dynamic forward coming back realistically just doesn’t work or help the Isles our.

I don't want to be an asshole here, since I like the NYI (way more than NYR and ND anyway), but the Islanders ain't going nowhere, but at the bottom of the league in a few years. They are where the Habs where at the ends of the 2010s. They still can make the playoffs if they are lucky, but the teams arounds them are either moving up, or they are in the process of going down, while still being better than the Isles.
Having a bunch of teams trying to fight for a playoff spot is a kickass time to sell everything, and start loading up in picks and prospects IMO


Why trade for one at the trade deadline and pay a premium? They aren't going anywhere before another 2-3 years. Their main asset is cap space so just wait for the right moment to strike. They could even land a top 5 this year.

They have way too many holes to make desperate moves

Habs have holes right now, but we already have the assets we need in the future, but a 2nd line center lol
MAYBE Hage, but in my perfect World, he'd play on the 3rd line
Otherwise, we are loaded to the brim with solid prospects at pretty much every other positions, so we don't need those picks anymore

wouldnt be a bad idea but I think it would be best to address this in the offseason if possible. try and grab that likely last top 10 pick and move forward from there

That would be Plan B.
I feel like the TDL is our best option here, because the teams that will be tanking might make more players available at that point. I don't know who we could get as a free agent TBH. Plus, I'd fear we have to sign an ugly contract at this point.
 
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I'd be looking for a 1st-ish/2nd line center to play behind Suzuki. Dach is a good player but he's made of paper, Dvorak is bad and Evans, while good, ain't good enough to support a 2nd line. Young, 60+ points or more center, is what I'm looking for.

What Montréal would offer:
Everything, but Demidov and Reinbacher.
You want first round picks? We have a bunch of them. We don't need them anymore. We are loaded with "B+" prospects. You want one or two of them? Let's f***ing go.
Montréal can help you speed run the part where you have to suck ass to get good assets.

Who is available?
Try to get Kulich out of Buffalo. He's 6'1, with decent wheels. scored 12 goals in 40 games with good shot. He's on worse run franchise in NHL. Has 64% faceoff percentage on 240 draws. With Demidov He's a consistent 35-40 goal scorer. He's going to win puck possession in offensive zone
 
Crosby is my boi, he's my favorite player in the league, but he's way to old, for us giving up this package
Crosby is currently just over PPG.

If he were to give us one year of PPG and let's say two more years after that at .9 PPG and .75 PPG before retiring or dropping off.

I'd think long and hard but probably do it.

Sidney Crosby + Ivan Demidov next year opens our cup window.
 
Try to get Kulich out of Buffalo. He's 6'1, with decent wheels. scored 12 goals in 40 games with good shot. He's on worse run franchise in NHL. Has 64% faceoff percentage on 240 draws. With Demidov He's a consistent 35-40 goal scorer. He's going to win puck possession in offensive zone

Honestly, not a bad idea at all, but I would think that if Buffalo was to rebuild, they would keep this guy since he's so young.

But if he's on the market, I'd give him a shot

Crosby is currently just over PPG.

If he were to give us one year of PPG and let's say two more years after that at .9 PPG and .75 PPG before retiring or dropping off.

I'd think long and hard but probably do it.

Sidney Crosby + Ivan Demidov next year opens our cup window.

I know, but I ain't giving up a bunch of 1st round picks for a man that ain't going to be with us for 2 or 3 years at best.
 
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So, OP wants a 1st/2nd line center for 1st round picks and B+ prospects.

Cool, so does almost every other team in the league.
 
I know, but I ain't giving up a bunch of 1st round picks for a man that ain't going to be with us for 2 or 3 years at best.
I guess I am a gambling man. If it were to happen at the TDL.....I'm gambling that we make the playoffs. If that happens, those 1st rounders are.

Calgary 1st: 11-20
Habs 1st: 17-20
Habs 1st 2025: 17-32

The hit rates on those picks are fairly low. With Hage still coming and our depth at D....I roll the dice. Ultimately it is a risk/reward scenario. I take the risk.
 
I don't want to be an asshole here, since I like the NYI (way more than NYR and ND anyway), but the Islanders ain't going nowhere, but at the bottom of the league in a few years. They are where the Habs where at the ends of the 2010s. They still can make the playoffs if they are lucky, but the teams arounds them are either moving up, or they are in the process of going down, while still being better than the Isles.
Having a bunch of teams trying to fight for a playoff spot is a kickass time to sell everything, and start loading up in picks and prospects IMO
The problem is that selling off everything to get garbage cap dumps and prospects with no real structure never works. It’s more so these trades attempting to gut any form of talent on the roster and set them back way too far with no real future. If the Isles keep the few pieces that are younger with skill then clear out the rest, they can revamp the roster. Moving Dobson and Barzal to get back something that might be ready in 3-5 seasons however is just stupid.
 
The Dach and Newhook experiments have fallen thru. They are bottom 6 at best and successors to Andersson and Gallagher in the lineup. Our need is still - as it seems forever - a legitimate 2C. Not another project or experiment.

1) Establish the list of valued pieces to involve in trade
2) Target a team with big depth at C

But what value have we to trade? Do we have enough value to grab a legitimate 2C - preferably lefty?

[ Untouchable Roster Players ]
F: Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky
D: Matheson, Carrier, Hutson, Ghule, Xhekaj
G: Montembault

[ Untouchable Minor Players ]
F: Demidov, Hage
D: Reinbacher
G: Fowler

Aside from our picks, what REAL value do we have left to land a legitimate 2C - preferably lefty?
Dvorak - useful but won't get much in return, unless packaged
Evans - May well be the most valuable and quality asset as of now, packaged required
Armia - Serviceable quality depth, packaged required
Newhook - at best 40 pts as a bottom 6 with wheels and grit, packaged required
Heineman / Beck - Promising young talent, packaged required
Anderson - Health and cap hit our a concern, still interesting, packaged required
Gallagher - Cap hit is a concern, proving this year he can still hold his own, not without value packaged required
Laine - Who would take that gamble? A one-trick poney with a flair for the dramatic and a heavy cap hit for one more year
Savard - Serviceable quality depth, packaged required
Mailloux - Promising prospect with upside, packaged required

Anybody else is complementary or fringe.

So truthfully, where's the value to fulfill our clear and present need?
 
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Byfield or McTavish Would like to get either one if the asking price was fair.
"fair"
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