Player Discussion: Yegor Chinakhov

[cbjthrowaway]

crickets. someone didn’t want that smoke i guess.

 

[thebus88]

crickets. someone didn’t want that smoke i guess.

What smoke, it’s f***ing mid June. Let’s just wait til next October when everyone forgets anything negative said about him unless a certain somebody brings it up.

I don’t care about the dumb bet. Ironically Laine is also somebody I said Chinakhov was just as good as, or better than, and was seen as “outlandish” or whatever, like most everything else I’ve said about Patty. And I stand by it.

Chinakhov = Marchenko > > Laine

Chinakhov’s shooting, skating, and passing skills, along with his physical play (even at the start of the year) and “hockey IQ”, are just as good as Marchenko.

He’s a little less agile of a skater, and probably a little bit better of a shooter.

WHY are people downplaying his skills and ability as a player!?!?

 

[cbjthrowaway]

I don’t care about the dumb bet.

so we have a bet then, yes?

Ironically Laine is also somebody I said Chinakhov was just as good as, or better than

i will give you your flowers here. i was a laine defender and i was wrong.

WHY are people downplaying his skills and ability as a player!?!?

because those skills haven’t translated to actual production.

outside of a 10 game hot streak playing with two players who were still elite without him, he hasn’t been a real difference maker.

i like the player and think he has a lot of talent, but waiting for him to put it all together and stay healthy is the same thing we did with guys like ryan murray, sonny milano, gabriel carlsson, adam boqvist, jake bean, alex texier and emil bemstrom.

 

[SteelCityCannon]

I dont think he'll be on the team next year. DW has been very adamant in getting rid of injury prone players. He just cant stay healthy.

 

[Xoggz22]

WHY are people downplaying his skills and ability as a player!?!?

I think it has more to do with the fact he hasn't been able to support your position because he can't stay healthy. I don't know that many on here would disagree that he has a great skill set, but the best ability is availability and he simply hasn't been available to show he can be consistent with the tools in the toolbox. I love him as a player, but I don't feel he's part of the core at this point and I'd prefer to have someone in the lineup contributing. I don't trust Chinakhov to be part of this core at this point. Not because he isn't good enough, but because he isn't here enough. You can only hold a spot so long and he's missed a lot of time to develop and demonstrate he can show those traits consistently.

 

[majormajor]

Even if you told me he was only going to play 41 games a year, if that 41 games is the quality he showed to start the season I would gladly keep the player. He's on a cheap deal. I don't buy that we're better off without him or that we will get anything of value for him. Let's give him a shot to get back in form.

I dont think he'll be on the team next year. DW has been very adamant in getting rid of injury prone players. He just cant stay healthy.

He got rid of bad players. You won't see Wads trying to get rid of Monahan.

 

[majormajor]

I'm remembering my old quip about Jack Johnson, when in his prime people would praise how many minutes he could play - "the food tastes really bad but at least there's a huge plate of it". It's some variant of an old joke that I can't remember.

Anyways Chinakhov is becoming like the opposite of that. We don't know how much is going to be on the plate, maybe only half the dinner, but it's often delicious, and it's nearly free. You take that when you can get it.

You can only hold a spot so long

I think it adds to the case to add another forward, because we have no idea how much Chinakhov is going to play. But does it really mean we can't have Chinakhov on our roster? The thing about rosters, even on game 1, is that you expect to have multiple guys coming and going from the roster with injury and performance issues. Having inexpensive players like Chinakhov who might be able to step up, even at a top line level, that's a big plus.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

• The Jackets, like all NHL clubs, have minimal contact with players during the offseason, but they can check in on players who were injured in the previous season. Waddell said he received a positive update on winger Yegor Chinkahov, who was saddled with a back injury in recent seasons. Chinakhov has played in 113 games and missed 112 games with injury over the last three seasons. Not a good ratio. But Waddell said there was good news last week: “I just got a report that everything is going well for him,” he said. “Everything is going well for him. He’s training. No issues at all. I don’t worry about him. He’s always been in pretty good shape, and the report said no issues at all.” Chinakhov mentioned to reporters late last season that he needed a procedure on his back that was only available in Russia, but it’s unclear if he’s had any procedure since the season ended.

Blue Jackets Sunday Gathering: Building a physical, Panther-like roster

Plus: Dmitri Voronkov's contract situation, Columbus' history in arbitration and more.

www.nytimes.com

 

[spintheblackcircle]

"Chinakhov mentioned to reporters late last season that he needed a procedure on his back that was only available in Russia"

Yea, Ohio Health referred me to a Dr in St Petersburg, too.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

Back surgeries always go well according to the doctors and gms immediately after surgery.

The proof will be in the pudding. If he's ready to go in training camp and doesn't miss half the games then I'll be convinced.

 

[koteka]

Yea, Ohio Health referred me to a Dr in St Petersburg, too.

This is a picture of me 4 weeks after my secret Russian back surgery.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

"Wow, didn't expect Yegor to come back bigger than Voronkov......"

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

This is a picture of me 4 weeks after my secret Russian back surgery.

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Chinakov to his back: “I must break you.”


I’m only doing it for the joke. I love the player and am ready for him to break out like some of his teammates did last year.

 

[stevo61]

He did go from 178lbs to 201lbs pretty fast after the draft

 

[3074326]

Chinakhov = Marchenko

Marchenko in the 2024-2025 season 31 goals/74 points
Chinakhov in 175 NHL games has 34 goals and 71 points on top of injury issues

I just can't see how you can make that statement. Not trying to stir the pot, I just can't fathom the comment. I do like the player.

 

[thebus88]

Which comes 1st, the chicken, or the egg??

A players ABILITY to put up a certain/select amount of points occurs BEFORE they actually score them. Correct?

There’s an almost unlimited amount of variables or reasons why and WHEN a player “reaches their potential”, or quite simply puts a certain amount of points up. They could gain the ability the offseason before, or YEARS in advance.

I also find it hilarious when people say players have CHANGED year by year when their statistics fluctuate.

Marchenko in the 2024-2025 season 31 goals/74 points
Chinakhov in 175 NHL games has 34 goals and 71 points

So we’re only using Marchenko’s “breakout year”, while looking at Chinakhovs entire (while admittedly short) career? What were Marchenko’s numbers before last year? 67 points in 137 games. .48 points per game.

Take away Chinakhov’s rookie year (14 pts in 62 games-which you should consider fair as I’m attempting to prove a point as you did) and he has 57 points in 113 games. .50 points per game

on top of injury issues

It’s not “on top of”. His injury history and its impact on his statistics is inherently related. It’s extremely clear just looking at his play from the beginning of the year in relation to the games he was playing near the end.

I just can't see how you can make that statement. Not trying to stir the pot, I just can't fathom the comment. I do like the player.

Fathom is a bit much. Chinakhov is just as good as Marchenko. The same way Severson is just as good as Fabbro/Provorov.

And the same way Mateychuk is just as good as Jiricek. Ah, another perfect example of perception and reality NEVER intersecting on a subject. Opinions like a toilet seat around here.

Anyways. I’m wondering why you guys are hating on Chinakhov!?! He’s a BLUEJACKET!!

 

[OldGoaltender]

Chinny is more of a Blue Cross Blue Shield Jacket. This guy is the Courtney Brown of the NHL. Yes he’s a very talented player but he has missed almost as many games as he has played.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Chinny is more of a Blue Cross Blue Shield Jacket. This guy is the Courtney Brown of the NHL. Yes he’s a very talented player but he has missed almost as many games as he has played.

you don't even need to look that far for a comparison. the jackets already had adam boqvist, alex texier, jake bean, sonny milano and ryan murray recently.

four of those five guys were higher picks than chinakhov. they were all talented. none of them came close to hitting their ceiling.

i hope chinakhov's different, but there's not really any compelling reason to believe he's going to be any different from the guys on that list.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Anyways. I’m wondering why you guys are hating on Chinakhov!?! He’s a BLUEJACKET!!

I feel like there is a lot of things I could say about this sentence but I won't.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Hard to believe this is going on four years ago (11/15/21). That’s the Chinny I want. Scoring goals. Big smiles. Poking fun at his lack of facility with the language. No litany of injuries. No agent saying he wants out.

I know it doesn’t work like that. But good player with desirable skill set who’s easy to root for. How come it can’t be that simple for the CBJ?

 

[Xoggz22]

Hard to believe this is going on four years ago (11/15/21). That’s the Chinny I want. Scoring goals. Big smiles. Poking fun at his lack of facility with the language. No litany of injuries. No agent saying he wants out.

I know it doesn’t work like that. But good player with desirable skill set who’s easy to root for. How come it can’t be that simple for the CBJ?

His agent said he wants out? I find that hard to believe.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

His agent said he wants out? I find that hard to believe.

Like two years ago there was some stuff.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

His agent said he wants out? I find that hard to believe.

Like two years ago there was some stuff.

As I recall, he was getting scratch or stuck on the 4th line when that happened. Then he earned his way into more playing time, went on a bit of a heater, and has basically been injured ever since.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

As I recall, he was getting scratch or stuck on the 4th line when that happened.

remind me what he was up to for the last 15 games or so this season

 

[thebus88]

remind me what he was up to for the last 15 games or so this season

We will when you can explain to us in ANY detail why he was even out of the lineup for so long and in what way he was actually bothered.

Some people keep claiming he was “healthy scratched” at the end of the year, literally after coming back after a reported injury and looking noticeably worse and clearly not 100%.

f***, Laine and some other guys get the “injury excuse” for YEARS.

Where is the “Chinakhov is a warrior for trying to play through a back injury” narrative?? Things seem A LOT different than when Johansen was going through his issues, and many people here were ready to give a kidney.