Yeah Sullivan Sucks, but Dubas needs to be talked about too...

[Gurglesons]

Ah yes, the good ole moving of the goalposts. When Dubas tried to make moves to win now they were lauded; when he fell flat on his face on those moves, now it's about making us good in 7-10 years.

Trading a 1st+2nd for an end of the ropes 10 million dollar Erik Karlsson? Definitely going to help us in 7 years.

Signing Jarry and Graves to above market price deals on 5 and 6 year deals respectively? Yes, that will absolutely help us in 7 years.

Failing to get a 1st round pick return on the org's best homegrown winger product in decades? You guessed it, that's going to help us in 7-10 years.

Yeah, the Dubas defending is completely insane.

Dude has totally f***ed this team in a way that we haven't seen in decades.

This concept that "there was nothing he can do" is completely put out to pasture by what Washington has done in the two years since he's been GM.

 

[HandshakeLine]

If Sullivan can't be fired, then lol at our limp dick PoHO who just exists to take the blame for someone else’s failure.

lol. I'm sure Dubas' terrible contract and trade negotiations that are identical here as they were in Toronto will suddenly change when Sullivan (Who he can fire.) is fired...

This time. This time it’ll be different. You’ll see!

(It will not be different.)

 

[HandshakeLine]

Lol that Kyle Dubas saw the incredibly low bar to clear after Hextall, and completely faceplanted.

 

[Jacob]

Sometimes there are factors outside of a GM’s control. We knew Jarry had issues and the contract wasn’t good but you couldn’t really predict a Campbell-like nosedive.

He should probably still be fired just the same but every trade and signing is like a coin flip even for a good GM.

 

[HandshakeLine]

On a related note, I think it’s immaterial if Dubas is a bad GM by his own choice or if ownership is forcing him to be a bad GM. A bad GM is a bad GM. And even more so when they’re technically the GM’s boss.

 

[Gurglesons]

Sometimes there are factors outside of a GM’s control. We knew Jarry had issues and the contract wasn’t good but you couldn’t really predict a Campbell-like nosedive.

He should probably still be fired just the same but every trade and signing is like a coin flip even for a good GM.

Anyone could have predicted that just like Graves if you paid attention.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Sometimes there are factors outside of a GM’s control. We knew Jarry had issues and the contract wasn’t good but you couldn’t really predict a Campbell-like nosedive.

He should probably still be fired just the same but every trade and signing is like a coin flip even for a good GM.

I was against the Jarry extension even prior to him being signed. His playoff performances and him shriveling like a flaccid penis after the all-star break weren't what I wanted this team to hinge their hopes on for a starting goalie.

 

[metalan2]

Well sort of…you can judge him for NOT firing Sullivan lol

Actually you're right.

You can because he can, you know, fire Sullivan. Instead, all we hear is praise for Sullivan and how he's this tremendous coach.

That's true.

We can all judge Dubas.

Verdict = Abysmal at his job.

Sometimes there are factors outside of a GM’s control. We knew Jarry had issues and the contract wasn’t good but you couldn’t really predict a Campbell-like nosedive.

He should probably still be fired just the same but every trade and signing is like a coin flip even for a good GM.

I didn't really expect a Campbell like nose dive, but I expected something similar. I'm not surprised though about it.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

Erik Karlsson was acquired as the reigning Norris trophy winner and coming off a 100-point campaign as a defenseman.

Can we stop talking nonsense please? End-of-the ropes Erik Karlsson? Come on people.

Erik Karlsson is probably the most direct example of Sullivan's complete and utter uselessness as a head coach.

 

[Coastal Kev]

Erik Karlsson was acquired as the reigning Norris trophy winner and coming off a 100-point campaign as a defenseman.

Can we stop talking nonsense please? End-of-the ropes Erik Karlsson? Come on people.

Erik Karlsson is probably the most direct example of Sullivan's complete and utter uselessness as a head coach.

Even if he was great, what would be the point for this team? I never understood why they didn't know where the roster was and where it would soon be.