Yeah Sullivan Sucks, but Dubas needs to be talked about too...

TKalltheTime

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Just I dunno if he’s could have done a worse and more laughable job that he has… don’t make excuses, don’t blame that he hasn’t been here long enough, don’t do mental gymnastics to blame other people. Just a bunch of really bad stuff top to bottom.

I was excited at first and drank the kool-aid thinking that nothing could be worse than Hextall, but this might be a wash at best.

Yikes, this dude sure does fool a lot of people and fails up.
 

centipede2233

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Listen, I came on your boards warning you pens fans of dubas’s ways having watched his work for 5 yrs in leaf land. I was met with great restraint that he would right the ship. So I backed off and let it play out knowing full well you would eventually see what I have witnessed. He sucks, you’re fortunate you have him in a time where you want to suck to rebuild. Hopefully you will have someone more competent when he is fired in 6 yrs
 

AuroraBorealis

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Oct 16, 2018
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Listen, I came on your boards warning you pens fans of dubas’s ways having watched his work for 5 yrs in leaf land. I was met with great restraint that he would right the ship. So I backed off and let it play out knowing full well you would eventually see what I have witnessed. He sucks, you’re fortunate you have him in a time where you want to suck to rebuild. Hopefully you will have someone more competent when he is fired in 6 yrs
You're clearly not watching the games and have no idea why they are losing. So why are you talking?

What does Dubas have to do with Crosby, Letang, Karlsson, Pettersson, Bunting, Jarry all playing well below their averages, all at the same time? That's a coaching issue.
Most of his off-season work involved restructuring the bottom-six. They're scoring quite well and a few of them have helped the PK. Plus guys like Glass and Hayes are here because they came with picks attached, not for performance this season. They are cap dumps.
All of his trades have made sense or are outright wins.

I'll blame Dubas for hiring Quinn. Not sure he has the authority to fire Sullivan. Maybe. We'll see. Ownership adore him.
Didn't like the Grzelcyk signing either. Otherwise I got no issues with his choices this off-season.
 

Pens x

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You're clearly not watching the games and have no idea why they are losing. So why are you talking?

What does Dubas have to do with Crosby, Letang, Karlsson, Pettersson, Bunting, Jarry all playing well below their averages, all at the same time? That's a coaching issue.
Most of his off-season work involved restructuring the bottom-six. They're scoring quite well and a few of them have helped the PK. Plus guys like Glass and Hayes are here because they came with picks attached, not for performance this season. They are cap dumps.
All of his trades have made sense or are outright wins.

I'll blame Dubas for hiring Quinn. Not sure he has the authority to fire Sullivan. Maybe. We'll see. Ownership adore him.
Didn't like the Grzelcyk signing either. Otherwise I got no issues with his choices this off-season.
It amazes me people are still trying to defend Dubas. Our roster is pathetic. We have one injury and suddenly Hayes is a 2C, for example.

Sullivan sucks but Dubas has been awful too.
 

wgknestrick

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People assume Dubas's job is to create a winning hockey team in 1-2 years, and that's an impossible task. It's to create a winning team in 7-10 years, and most here have zero clue on how to accomplish that.
 

AuroraBorealis

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It amazes me people are still trying to defend Dubas. Our roster is pathetic. We have one injury and suddenly Hayes is a 2C, for example.

Sullivan sucks but Dubas has been awful too.
I am trying to speak the truth, as I see it, like I've done for 7 years here. Taking sides doesn't interest me, even when they're my favorites or least favorites.
Hayes has played well this year and I got zero problems with him at 2C for a game. It's not that prestigious of a position on a shit team. He deserved more minutes than 8 at ES a night.
He's straight up outplayed Sid at even-strength prior to this game.
 

AuroraBorealis

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People assume Dubas's job is to create a winning hockey team in 1-2 years, and that's an impossible task. It's to create a winning team in 7-10 years, and most here have zero clue on how to accomplish that.
Well if they wanted that 7-10 year window thing then they should have started a full-scale rebuild the moment he got here. That's how long it takes. They didn't have leeway to throw multiple years away like this, and sign guys like Jarry and Graves to huge contracts. Sid shouldn't have been re-signed either.
 

eXile3

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People assume Dubas's job is to create a winning hockey team in 1-2 years, and that's an impossible task. It's to create a winning team in 7-10 years, and most here have zero clue on how to accomplish that.
What? I’m pretty sure we all know how a rebuild works.
 

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