Confirmed Trade: Yakupov to STL Part II

[4uston M4tthews]

I dont know why but my gut tells me this kid can play with Steen.

Obviously a case of the Oilers waiting too long to do what the entire hockey world knew they had to do.

There was a time they coulda got Larsson for this guy.

 

[snipes]

I dont know why but my gut tells me this kid can play with Steen.

Obviously a case of the Oilers waiting too long to do what the entire hockey world knew they had to do.

There was a time they coulda got Larsson for this guy.

Citation?

 

[belair]

I dont know why but my gut tells me this kid can play with Steen.

Obviously a case of the Oilers waiting too long to do what the entire hockey world knew they had to do.

There was a time they coulda got Larsson for this guy.

...that certain members of the fan-base were willing to move an under-developed Adam Larsson...

Hindsight really is 20/20.

 

[Homesick]

I dont know why but my gut tells me this kid can play with Steen.

Obviously a case of the Oilers waiting too long to do what the entire world knew they had to do.

There was a time they coulda got Larsson for this guy.

Oh no Chiarelli waited a year to see what he had

 

[SatanwasaSlovak]

If i were to guess, Yakupov is out of the league within 2 seasons if he doesn't pick it up now.

 

[belair]

If i were to guess, Yakupov is out of the league within 2 seasons if he doesn't pick it up now.

As is stands Nail is at least an average NHLer in terms of offensive production. If he fails to shore up his defensive faults I could see him getting chance after chance simply based on his 1st overall status.

In my personal opinion, if you were to give Nail a healthy 82 game season without a leash, essentially meaning a strictly offensive role with a good center, he'd put up a decent clip. The problem with that is there are too many players in this league who would likely do similar or better in that role while being less of a liability.

His #1 need right now though is consistency. He needs consistent ice-time with consistent linemates and a consistent role. He's endured too much change early in his career as a mentally weak player.

 

[Remember2004]

St Louis taking on another one of Edmontons projects. First it was Paajarvi and now Yak LOL

 

[Roof Daddy]

There was a time they coulda got Larsson for this guy.

When?

At the 2012 draft? Possibly, but the Devils seemed quite impressed with what they had in Larsson.

At the 2013 draft? Sure, but Yak tied for our team lead in goals and Larsson struggled through concussion issues and sophomore slump. Would have looked bad for us.

2014? Unlikely. Larsson still had struggles, but not to the same degree Yak did.

2015? Not a chance. 2016? Nope.

Everything is contextual. You could say Dave Andreychuk could have been traded for Pavel Datsyuk in 2000. Means absolutely nothing.

 

[plikestechno]

He will have St. Louis fans ripping their hair out in a couple of weeks.

No one in Edmonton is sad about Yakupov getting traded. We were just hoping we'd be getting more or an actual NHL player.

 

[2 Minute Minor]

It's a fresh start, with the team, the players, socially, with coaches, even with the fanbase. The Blues seem to have realistic expectations and have the luxury of protecting him and limiting his ice time.

From Hitchcock's comments, I expect the team to struggle a bit early in the year as they try to implement a different forecheck and neutral zone play. Yakupov is going to be learning it along with everyone else. Comments from multiple players show that the players are taking responsibility to teach him. Steen, Tarasenko, Pietrangelo, have all made comments about the players helping him understand the structure and how he fits into it.

Honest question, who were the player-coaches in Edmonton? I'm not trying to be cute here, seriously wondering .

 

[Oscar Acosta]

He will have St. Louis fans ripping their hair out in a couple of weeks.

No one in Edmonton is sad about Yakupov getting traded. We were just hoping we'd be getting more or an actual NHL player.

Speak for yourself. I'm pissed at how they handled him and his career, how they traded him for nothing and Versteeg took off so now we have no RW depth, and Yakupov is a good kid, hard worker and great citizen.

I hope him nothing but success in St. Louis, hopefully he will get used for his talents instead of trying to morph him into Shawn Horcoff and wondering why that doesn't have success.

 

[McDNicks17]

It's a fresh start, with the team, the players, socially, with coaches, even with the fanbase. The Blues seem to have realistic expectations and have the luxury of protecting him and limiting his ice time.

From Hitchcock's comments, I expect the team to struggle a bit early in the year as they try to implement a different forecheck and neutral zone play. Yakupov is going to be learning it along with everyone else. Comments from multiple players show that the players are taking responsibility to teach him. Steen, Tarasenko, Pietrangelo, have all made comments about the players helping him understand the structure and how he fits into it.

Honest question, who were the player-coaches in Edmonton? I'm not trying to be cute here, seriously wondering .

Derek Roy was great with Yak a couple of seasons ago. He had by far the best stretch of his career when playing with him at the end of '14/'15.

Hendricks has probably been the only veteran coaching-type forward on the team since.

 

[67Blues]

He will have St. Louis fans ripping their hair out in a couple of weeks.

No one in Edmonton is sad about Yakupov getting traded. We were just hoping we'd be getting more or an actual NHL player.

I doubt that. We have no expectations for him as he had in Edmonton. If he does well as a 3rd liner, then that is okay. If he does better, then it is a bonus. If he crashes and burns, then I hear the pressbox has nice amenities.

This is like buying a lottery ticket. It didn't cost much, odds are nothing will come of it, but there is a chance, however small, that it really pans out.

 

[Harv]

Nail was a lost soul. This is what he said tonight. Wonder why he didn't seek help?

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Nail was a lost soul. This is what he said tonight. Wonder why he didn't seek help?

he was a pretty big "loner" in Edmonton...teammates used to ask him out after games and such but he'd do his own thing

the guy never fit in after his rookie season and its sad

I blame Eakins

 

[BlueDream]

Nail has a good buddy in Tarasenko on the team. Also has played with a couple other guys in Edmonton.

The Blues are doing well with him and easing him in slowly. I think this change of scenery will really do him well. There's not much pressure on him since we have so many other forwards that handle the heavy-lifting. He's in a good situation, all he needs to do is use his speed and shot. Hopefully he thrives here, and he's off to a good start with 2 points.

 

[antiqueslivers]

predicting break out year for the nail!

 

[fredligh]

On pace for ppg

 

[rumrokh]

Nail was a lost soul. This is what he said tonight. Wonder why he didn't seek help?

People in a bad place often don't seek help because it takes all of their capacity simply to function and they cannot handle even considering making themselves more vulnerable. When someone feels like so much is already out of their control, it's unthinkable to give up even more control to people they already know and trust, let alone people they don't know how to begin trusting.

And that doesn't even consider the huge stigmas against getting help for emotional and mental health. People who care the most are the ones who often end up blaming the help-seeker for not fulfilling their hopes for them to be happy. Isolation is reinforced at basically every turn. So you shouldn't wonder why he didn't seek help before, but, rather, be impressed that he's managing to be so open about it now.

 

[Hansen]

Was begging for Benning to take a chance on him.

Going to be great for Blues fans looking back at getting a 50 pt player for a 3rd

 

[antiqueslivers]

agreed... totally shocked by the steal of a deal this trade was. Buuuut edmonton has an embarrassment of riches so I don't feel bad for em.

 

[Rebuilt]

Chia is going to have to manufacture a drastic story one day. One where Yakupov put a gun to his head and demanded to be traded.

There is no other actual rationale for GIVING THE GUY AWAY

I mean worst case, he SUCKS and bolts for the KHL. I would FAR rather we send him there or allow him to go and get nothing but retain his rights until if and when he returns.

Getting a low second or 3rd with our scouting staff is basically no pick at all.

 

[heretik27]

Chia is going to have to manufacture a drastic story one day. One where Yakupov put a gun to his head and demanded to be traded.

There is no other actual rationale for GIVING THE GUY AWAY

I mean worst case, he SUCKS and bolts for the KHL. I would FAR rather we send him there or allow him to go and get nothing but retain his rights until if and when he returns.

Getting a low second or 3rd with our scouting staff is basically no pick at all.

Maybe, maybe not. The reality is that Yakupov wasn't performing or interested in playing in Edmonton given his issues there. You can't be any more certain he's going to continue putting the points up than you would be to assume Devin Setoguchi is going to revert to the player he was back in San Jose before he was traded. It's only one game, yeah it sucks if he turns his career around and it's not with Edmonton, but there isn't some magic crystal ball that I'm aware of to see into the future.

 

[Chuck Norris Trophy]

I really hope he breaks out in St. Louis, he seems like super likeable person. Looking good so far

 

[Roof Daddy]

he was a pretty big "loner" in Edmonton...teammates used to ask him out after games and such but he'd do his own thing

the guy never fit in after his rookie season and its sad

I blame Eakins

I would be much more inclined to blame Hall. The guy divided the room with Ginsu-like precision. Yak was always on the outside looking in.