WWE: WWE TV - Raw & Smackdown Part 3

[Jussi]

Chelsea requesting to see the manager already.

 

[Sheppy]

Baby faces calling other people “big bully farty pants” is always f***ing stupid.

Rematch city, baby!

 

[GKJ]

Rhea seems like she’s feuding with a lot of people

 

[Jussi]

That was a sloppy match, Chelsea being the major culprit.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Kayden and Katana are already DOA. They were screwed the moment they lost their main roster debut.

 

[Sheppy]

Kayden and Katana are already DOA. They were screwed the moment they lost their main roster debut.

It sucks because they’re legit. Vince will probably break them up in a few weeks and put one of them with Natalya for a week.

 

[Jussi]

It sucks because they’re legit. Vince will probably break them up in a few weeks and put one of them with Natalya for a week.

Since Yulisa Leon and Valentina Ferroz seem to be on the main roster, they should pair KC2 with them for a couple of matches. They had good matches at NXT. Ferroz & Leon are the only other legit tag team in the women's division.

 

[I Eat Crow]

It sucks because they’re legit. Vince will probably break them up in a few weeks and put one of them with Natalya for a week.

Yup, they're both really talented and they're being made to look like geeks. Kacy in particular was really raw years ago but looks a lot more polished as of late. The best thing for them at this point is to lose the rave gimmick and turn them heel somehow. They're getting absolutely no reaction.

 

[Sheppy]

Since Yulisa Leon and Valentina Ferroz seem to be on the main roster, they should pair KC2 with them for a couple of matches. They had good matches at NXT. Ferroz & Leon are the only other legit tag team in the women's division.

They need to be built up with credible wins. The tag division is an absolute joke as it is. It needs a hard re-set at this stage. It’s a mess.

Ferroz & Leon, if given a shot on the main roster will get absolute crickets. While they’re decent, they still have work to do and a fanbase to build.

I just have essentially zero hope for any of the womens tag teams. It sucks because there is clearly some talent there. 2 minute main roster matches aren’t going to do a damn thing for anyone.

Yup, they're both really talented and they're being made to look like geeks. Kacy in particular was really raw years ago but looks a lot more polished as of late. The best thing for them at this point is to lose the rave gimmick and turn them heel somehow. They're getting absolutely no reaction.

Nothing really coming up from NXT screams “cool” like it used to. It’s basically a corny Nickelodeon show. No one has really got a reaction on their call up since NXT shifted to a new direction. Is there talent there? Absolutely.

 

[Jussi]

They need to be built up with credible wins. The tag division is an absolute joke as it is. It needs a hard re-set at this stage. It’s a mess.

Ferroz & Leon, if given a shot on the main roster will get absolute crickets. While they’re decent, they still have work to do and a fanbase to build.

I just have essentially zero hope for any of the womens tag teams. It sucks because there is clearly some talent there. 2 minute main roster matches aren’t going to do a damn thing for anyone.


Nothing really coming up from NXT screams “cool” like it used to. It’s basically a corny Nickelodeon show. No one has really got a reaction on their call up since NXT shifted to a new direction. Is there talent there? Absolutely.

They literally went to Gold & White last Fall. Another makeover and direction change.

 

[Sheppy]

They literally went to Gold & White last Fall. Another makeover and direction change.

And it’s bad.

 

[Jussi]

And it’s bad.

Much better than the previous makeover.

 

[Sheppy]

Good to see Judgement Day get a win there.

RAW needs to get its shit together though. It just seems like the writers don’t care at all, just a lazy, boring show.

Much better that the previous makeover.

Going from a Chevette to a Prius is an upgrade, you’re right.

 

[dahrougem2]

Alpha Academy and Maxxine are just *chefs kiss* every single week.

Chad Gable has been criminally underused for years.

 

[BruinDust]

Cody Rhodes must be the whitest, white-meat babyface we've seen since the early 1990s. His gimmick is basically 1992-93 Bret Hart without the great matches.

Speaking of great matches, has The Miz ever had one truly memorable match in his now 19-year WWE career? I can't think of one. 19-years into his career and he still doesn't come across as a legitimate combat athlete.

Speaking of The Miz, has any WWE wrestler ever rested on his laurels gimmick-wise like The Miz? Guys like Undertaker and Jericho constantly reinvent themselves, meanwhile Mike Mizanen has been running this "A-Lister" gimmick now for years. Talk about stale.

Sorry but they've really cooled off Sami Zayn. His reactions are nowhere near what they were 6 months ago.

I'm already sick and tired of Seth Rollins entrance and the crowd sing-along.

L A Knight should of been moved to Raw.

YEAH!

 

[GKJ]

Cody Rhodes must be the whitest, white-meat babyface we've seen since the early 1990s. His gimmick is basically 1992-93 Bret Hart without the great matches.

Speaking of great matches, has The Miz ever had one truly memorable match in his now 19-year WWE career? I can't think of one. 19-years into his career and he still doesn't come across as a legitimate combat athlete.

Speaking of The Miz, has any WWE wrestler ever rested on his laurels gimmick-wise like The Miz? Guys like Undertaker and Jericho constantly reinvent themselves, meanwhile Mike Mizanen has been running this "A-Lister" gimmick now for years. Talk about stale.

Sorry but they've really cooled off Sami Zayn. His reactions are nowhere near what they were 6 months ago.

I'm already sick and tired of Seth Rollins entrance and the crowd sing-along.

L A Knight should of been moved to Raw.

YEAH!

Miz had a great match against Seth a few weeks ago. He had a ladder match against Dolph Ziggler that was really good.

Cooling off Sami was always going to happen. The story peaked and paid off the way it was going to pay off for him. There was no way to keep him hot even as tag champions as once they were done with the Uso’s, there was very few places to go. Are we waiting for Kevin to turn on him? I don’t know if that’s something I really want to see because i already have, but they will always be there if they need a main event.

 

[BruinDust]

Miz had a great match against Seth a few weeks ago. He had a ladder match against Dolph Ziggler that was really good.

Cooling off Sami was always going to happen. The story peaked and paid off the way it was going to pay off for him. There was no way to keep him hot even as tag champions as once they were done with the Uso’s, there was very few places to go. Are we waiting for Kevin to turn on him? I don’t know if that’s something I really want to see because i already have, but they will always be there if they need a main event.

I'm not a work-rate guy. I just want to be entertained and give me something to remember.

Honestly the only in-ring thing that I ever found memorable or impactful that involved "The Miz" was when he and R-Truth got kayfabe "fired" in 2011 and attacked Cena and Punk at HIAC and they got dragged away in cuffs. It was the one time "The Miz" looked like a credible threat. Other than that, he's the biggest phony in the past 2 decades of pro wrestling and does nothing to try and improve his stock in the fanbases eyes. Same gimmick, same tired schtick, same lame-ass catch-phrases, same weak-looking move-set. My working punch looks better than his. He should be on Impact Wrestling by now, but WWE Corporate likes his clean-cut look and his willingness to make appearances on their behalf.

 

[GKJ]

Cody apparently went off script last night.

 

[Sheppy]

Miz had a great match against Seth a few weeks ago. He had a ladder match against Dolph Ziggler that was really good.

Cooling off Sami was always going to happen. The story peaked and paid off the way it was going to pay off for him. There was no way to keep him hot even as tag champions as once they were done with the Uso’s, there was very few places to go. Are we waiting for Kevin to turn on him? I don’t know if that’s something I really want to see because i already have, but they will always be there if they need a main event.

With Vince hanging around and teams/factions suddenly either breaking up or having turmoil, you can count on KO turning sooner rather than later.

As for Cody, he's pretty much channel changing to me right now. "Thoooo what thu you wanna thalk about"

 

[sansabri]

i liked the first hour and especially liked how much camera time Rhea got

 

[BostonBob]

PWInsider is reporting that there was some major heat backstage after the RAW main event.

from Tuesday's pwinsider.com:

There was an argument backstage following Monday Night Raw involving members of the six man tag main event between The Judgment Day vs. Kevin Owens & Sami Zayn & Seth Rollins, PWInsider.com has confirmed with multiple sources.

We are told the brunt of the issue was how the match went as there were apparently some spots that didn't go as initially planned and were "clunky" with two sources placing the blame on the fact that aspects of the match were changed "at the last literal second" and one source placing the blame on one talent who they didn't want to name to "not make the Internet go insane."

We are told that after Finn Balor pinned Sami Zayn and everyone returned to the gorilla position backstage, an argument began borne out of the frustration over how the match went but was never in danger of getting physical.

The situation finally petered out but we are told that many involved weren't happy with the situation.

It was seen as "one of those nights" where things just didn't click and since there were so many people involved who care about their job and performances, emotions ran high because of those frustrations.

 

[Sheppy]

Sami f***ed up the first “Blue Thunder Bomb” he attempted, that I know.

 

[Jussi]

Sami f***ed up the first “Blue Thunder Bomb” he attempted, that I know.

Yeah, that was obvious.

 

[Sheppy]

Yeah, that was obvious.

"Just like i predicted" right?

 

[Jussi]

"Just like i predicted" right?

Eh?