Proposal: WSH-NYR

[Synergy27]

The Caps made some awesome offseason moves and are looking like a legitimate contender right now. What was originally supposed to be yet another season counting down the goals to Gretzky’s record now seems like one where they might both do that and be able to grab Ovi another Cup for his legacy.

I only have a cursory understanding of the Caps cap situation. I know Backstrom and Oshie are both on LTIR and their contracts end this season.

With that said, would the Cals be open to a package involving Panarin (with some amount of retention) for Leonard to make two runs at the Cup with Ovi before he retires?

Rangers grab Perreault’s teammate and add a hard nosed, north south player. Caps add a superstar, Russian countryman, elite playmaker to try to put them over the top.

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[Clark Kellogg]

Artemi Panarin had a 120 points last season and is on pace for a 100 points this season playing on a brutal Ranger team.
Most nights it’s seems he playing 1 on 5 hockey.
I would like to read what is in the package but at first glance if he was to waive this year the Ranger organization would receive massive offers, especially with salary retention.
The devils in the details. What’s in the package?

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

The Rangers are not trading Panarin lol there would be riots in New York

 

[MNRube]

Leonard is too enticing for me. I wouldn’t do it

 

[elmaco]

The Rangers are not trading Panarin lol there would be riots in New York

For PLD 1 for 1.

 

[UnSandvich]

With Washington's current cap situation, it'd take too much retention and therefore too much added to Leonard for them to bite i think

 

[Barnaby]

Huge cap number so doubt it’s realistic. I think it would require taking a cap dump more than retention otherwise you’d probably need to pay for someone else to eat some. Drury would do it if they are completely out of playoff contention otherwise doubt Dolan signs off on it. Playoff money is too great.

Would I do it as the Rangers? Yes.

Would I do it as Washington? Maybe. Don’t forget Panarin has been mediocre in the playoffs but if you think he can get you a cup…? Also, teams don’t really trade bluechippers. Even those swinging at a cup. Picks are way more common.

I know if the Rangers were a slam dunk playoff team and someone mentioned trading Perreault for a high salary player like Panarin then people would flip.

 

[Devil Dancer]

I think the Caps say no.

Those first few years of cost controlled Leonard are incredibly valuable, and they need to re up Chych and their goalies.

 

[Ciao]

The draft rights to an unsigned college sophomore whose rights expire in 2027 for a 100-point forward under contract for the rest of this year and next?

If so, the Rangers had better hope the player signs, and that he turns out to have some impact.

There's a lot of downside risk here, maybe for both the Rangers and the Caps. It's a shot in the dark.

 

[qc14]

Would have to be Panarin 50% retained (~$5.8M) for Leonard + Mangiapane ($5.8M) to make the money work.

I would probably do it as a Caps fan but I don't think the FO would and I understand why not. I also think there is zero chance Dolan would move Panarin anywhere in-division, let alone to the "horrifying act of violence" Capitals.

 

[FuryOfTheSwarm]

The Caps made some awesome offseason moves and are looking like a legitimate contender right now. What was originally supposed to be yet another season counting down the goals to Gretzky’s record now seems like one where they might both do that and be able to grab Ovi another Cup for his legacy.

I only have a cursory understanding of the Caps cap situation. I know Backstrom and Oshie are both on LTIR and their contracts end this season.

With that said, would the Cals be open to a package involving Panarin (with some amount of retention) for Leonard to make two runs at the Cup with Ovi before he retires?

Rangers grab Perreault’s teammate and add a hard nosed, north south player. Caps add a superstar, Russian countryman, elite playmaker to try to put them over the top.

Panarin The Friendly Playoff Ghost might be the last player the Caps should add at this point. Before even getting to the fact that virtually every marquee playoff rental not named Mark Stone tends to flop and disrupt the acquiring team year they're added.

Only player on the Rangers who slots in really well is Cuylle at 3LW next to Eller, but I imagine the Rangers would ask for the moon. If there was a deal to be made around Lapierre + 2nd I would jump on it since they have similar long term upsides as top 6 forwards and are of similar age but Cuylle is better and more of what we need now and Lapierre will be behind Strome and Dubois for the forseeable future. Otherwise look elsewhere.

 

[FuryOfTheSwarm]

The draft rights to an unsigned college sophomore whose rights expire in 2027 for a 100-point forward under contract for the rest of this year and next?

If so, the Rangers had better hope the player signs, and that he turns out to have some impact.

There's a lot of downside risk here, maybe for both the Rangers and the Caps. It's a shot in the dark.

Yeah what a huge nailbiter it would be for Rangers fans, waiting to see if a highly desirable college player decides to sign with their team or not

 

[Synergy27]

Would have to be Panarin 50% retained (~$5.8M) for Leonard + Mangiapane ($5.8M) to make the money work.

I would probably do it as a Caps fan but I don't think the FO would and I understand why not. I also think there is zero chance Dolan would move Panarin anywhere in-division, let alone to the "horrifying act of violence" Capitals.

Man, I love this deal for the Rangers.

 

[SML2]

F this thread. I want nothing to do with any of the Caps.

 

[Chukcha]

I think the Caps say no.

Those first few years of cost controlled Leonard are incredibly valuable, and they need to re up Chych and their goalies.

it's nothing impossible for the caps after the Forsberg deal...

 

[UnSandvich]

Would have to be Panarin 50% retained (~$5.8M) for Leonard + Mangiapane ($5.8M) to make the money work.

I would probably do it as a Caps fan but I don't think the FO would and I understand why not. I also think there is zero chance Dolan would move Panarin anywhere in-division, let alone to the "horrifying act of violence" Capitals.

There'd have to be some additional (and not small) pieces from the caps there if the Rangers are both retaining 6ish million and taking back almost 6 million too. Leonard isn't nearly enough to bridge that gap, as good as he is.

 

[Devil Dancer]

it's nothing impossible for the caps after the Forsberg deal...

That was two general managers ago but ok.

 

[ViD]

If the Rangers trade Panarin they can kiss play off good bye for the next 5 years

Would have to be Panarin 50% retained (~$5.8M) for Leonard + Mangiapane ($5.8M) to make the money work.

I would probably do it as a Caps fan but I don't think the FO would and I understand why not. I also think there is zero chance Dolan would move Panarin anywhere in-division, let alone to the "horrifying act of violence" Capitals.

This is beyond terrible for New York even after Mangiapane did a hair transplant

 

[Synergy27]

If the Rangers trade Panarin they can kiss play off good bye for the next 5 years


This is beyond terrible for New York even after Mangiapane did a hair transplant

Bread traded for Eatbread is something the universe just owes us.

 

[hamzarocks]

Absurd trade for Caps

Panarin is a pending UFA and his best is behind him.

The Caps are playing elite with a team focused game. Dont need a big add

 

[doomscroll]

Absurd trade for Caps

Panarin is a pending UFA and his best is behind him.

The Caps are playing elite with a team focused game. Dont need a big add

Panarin has another year on his contract, and last season was his most productive.

 

[Holtbyisms]

Caps walk away. Leonard is the highest end prospect they've had in the system in over a decade due to years of regular season success. We're already looking like a legitimate contender this year as is. Washington has retooled correctly to give Ovi a couple more shots before he hangs it up. They've done all that at the cost of not sacrificing any futures. I can't see them deviating from the plan. They've been very forthright about said plan and typically stick to their guns.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

I don’t think the trade makes sense for the Caps. Yes, getting one more Cup in the Ovechkin era would be unreal, but it’s far from a guarantee even with Panarin in the lineup.

The Caps are trying to gently transition away from their old core, Leonard is expected to be part of that post-Ovechkin era core.

 

[Chukcha]

That was two general managers ago but ok.

i was sarcastic . Actually he could be a real driver for the 3rd line like Kessel was for the pens in their consecutive cup runs. When your 3rd line is Vrana/Lapierre-Eller-Panarin you're a frontrunner in the cup race.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I think Kane might end up there.