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Confirmed Trade: [WSH/BUF] Alex Tuch (signs 8 years, $10.5M AAV) for David Kampf, 2027 3rd round pick

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I agree.

Some posters will use this angle when their team doesn't get the player they want or if they end up being signed by a bitter rival.
I neither wanted Tuch nor is Washington a rival of my team.

I’m surprised that people never learn because that’s not how I operate, but I suppose I might operate differently if I had millions and millions to piss away without any thought to the consequences.

Must be nice.
 
I neither wanted Tuch nor is Washington a rival of my team.

I’m surprised that people never learn because that’s not how I operate, but I suppose I might operate differently if I had millions and millions to piss away without any thought to the consequences.

Must be nice.
I you're risk-averse, that's fine. But you're probably not going to end up with too many good players unless you draft them.
 
Soooooo......Washington bros.......

Were you guys at 50 contracts? Because that's literally the only reason why Kampf would be traded here, right???
You're getting a stud, he's the primary piece in the deal. We traded for him and he hid in canada for a month, finally came to DC and played like 1 game. Can't believe we gave him up!
 
Strategically, I think most outside fans don't understand where the Caps are. This team was very good two years ago and by every underlying metric (and even the "overlying" ones like goal difference, wins, and points) should have at minimum made the playoffs this year. They have one of the better U21 trios in the league in Leonard/Protas/Hutson, but they also have a lot of very good players right in the middle of their prime in Wilson, Chychrun, PLD, Thompson, etc.. The old guard is gone. They do not rely on Ovi anymore and if he comes back it will be for only one more year. They have a ton of great depth but needed at least one more elite goalscoring forward no matter what Ovi does next year. They went out and got two of the top available options

Tactically of course it is too much money for too long, even with the cap going up. It will almost certainly be bad when Tuch is 35, which is fine, but there is real risk he falls off earlier. That being said, this isn't the flat cap era and money/contracts just simply do not matter as much as they did. Good players also just do not change teams as often and when they do it's always going to be a trade where the value you gain on the contract is offset by the assets you have to give up. It's just much more important right now to get good players than to be "efficient" and this is what the Caps did. I'd rather spend money inefficiently on a good player than not at all on no one
 
Strategically, I think most outside fans don't understand where the Caps are. This team was very good two years ago and by every underlying metric (and even the "overlying" ones like goal difference, wins, and points) should have at minimum made the playoffs this year. They have one of the better U21 trios in the league in Leonard/Protas/Hutson, but they also have a lot of very good players right in the middle of their prime in Wilson, Chychrun, PLD, Thompson, etc.. The old guard is gone. They do not rely on Ovi anymore and if he comes back it will be for only one more year. They have a ton of great depth but needed at least one more elite goalscoring forward no matter what Ovi does next year. They went out and got two of the top available options

Tactically of course it is too much money for too long, even with the cap going up. It will almost certainly be bad when Tuch is 35, which is fine, but there is real risk he falls off earlier. That being said, this isn't the flat cap era and money/contracts just simply do not matter as much as they did. Good players also just do not change teams as often and when they do it's always going to be a trade where the value you gain on the contract is offset by the assets you have to give up. It's just much more important right now to get good players than to be "efficient" and this is what the Caps did. I'd rather spend money inefficiently on a good player than not at all on no one
Good post!
 
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Doubtful. They have Kozak needing a spot, they can bring Dunne back and then Danforth is coming back from injury and still under contract IIRC. Seems like some sort of paper move.

I hope to hell the Sabres bring back Malenstyn.
In today's presser, Jarmo said they were working on it, wants to keep him on the team.
 
Also amazing how people still don’t remember that signing old free agents to huge deals oftentimes does not work out
I think it's because the Sabres are in a different place. Lots of young talent in the pipeline they need to make room for in the line-up + ensure they have the cap space once they need to be signed. I can understand a team with fewer prospects and a window that's starting to close signing top UFA's top dollar with max term. If Buffalo continues to have success, they will face this situation too at some point.
 
People still think the guideline is 10 points per $1M with a scoring forward.

That's not even remotely the case anymore, it's closer to 10 points per $2M now.

1.25 or 1.5. A 70 point play is 10.5 like Tuch not 14. Either way there’s little logic between contracts atm.
 

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