WWE: Wrestlemania 32 Discussion - at least 84k tickets sold

[vdB]

It depends on the mid card. Main event isn't going to be very good.

Unless Cena rushes back the Taker match will dud too. Brock/Bray I don't see a lot of wrestling happening. Just interruptions and Brock smashing.

Need the mid card and maybe a big tag match to save some of the show.

That's what they said last year too.

 

[BonMorrison]

The builds to both 30 and 31 were up there with the WOAT and they managed to pull off great shows out of their ass at the last seconds. Can WWE do it three years in a row? I think it's a very very tall order considering what they're going in with + no wildcards like MitB holders + so many injuries. But you never know when it comes Mania.

 

[The Shockmaster]

I hated 31's RTWM, but I don't recall 30's being too too bad aside from the lack of Bryan winning the Rumble.

They saved it pretty well, although they could have told the story better.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Last year many people written off WM to be a terrible show, but it ended up being one of the best of all time.

I'm not saying 32 will top it, but you guys gotta give it a chance. This is WWE's biggest cash cow...they'll find ways to spice it up

31 isn't even a top ten Mania let alone among the best of all time. Stop overselling things. The wrestling was good except for the main event. The things that make the show good or not leading up to it was absolute crap. And 32 looks to be no different.

 

[Blitzkrug]

31 gets such high praise because the expectations were so bloody low going in.

It still wasn't all that good.

- Orton/Rollins was awesome

- The ladder match was ok, should have been a bit longer

- Wyatt/Undertaker sucked, and likely would have still sucked if Bray didn't screw up his ankle going in to the match.

- Divas match lol.

- Cena/Rusev should have been much, much better than we got.

- Sting/Triple H i didn't mind. It was an alright spectacle for what it was.

- Main event sucked. Reigns made Cena look like a jobber for the amount of crap he no sold to get back into that match.

- Solid tag match cluster**** that should have been on the show instead of that garbage ass battle royal.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Sting/HHH was only good live. It's a match that gets quickly worse on repeat viewings.

It was an ok Mania that we were afraid was going to be the worst. It's not one of the best ever (that's crazy hyperbole)

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Sting/HHH was only good live. It's a match that gets quickly worse on repeat viewings.

It was an ok Mania that we were afraid was going to be the worst. It's not one of the best ever (that's crazy hyperbole)

It wasn't even that good live. I sat 25 rows back. It was an average match in quality at best that became an overbooked mess that made no sense for the build which made only a little bit of sense. lol

 

[GKJ]

One of the parts that didn't work for Sting/Hunter was that you have this dark character with vampiric-tendencies, or for lack of a better term, WCW's version of the Undertaker, making his big entrance at Wrestlemania in daylight.

 

[S A W F T*]

One of the parts that didn't work for Sting/Hunter was that you have this dark character with vampiric-tendencies, or for lack of a better term, WCW's version of the Undertaker, making his big entrance at Wrestlemania in daylight.

Taker's entrance sucked too but at least the sun had STARTED to set.

 

[GKJ]

Taker's entrance sucked too but at least the sun had STARTED to set.

Sunset at least was a decent touch, though

 

[Paris in Flames]

Having Bray/Sting/Taker enter with any sort of sunlight is a huge fail.

Not sure how else you can do it outside of avoid the West coast.

 

[rj]

I was trying to remember anything about Orton/Rollins. Had no memory of it. Then going to Wikipedia and looking at the card, I remember the awesome finish to that match.

Triple H-Sting. It's fine but it wasn't great. Sting was 50 or so so it shouldn't be expected to be 5 stars anyway. The match was held down by Hunter's ego and all the run-ins. Sure, it gets a crowd pop, but why would the NWO help Sting? I know they don't care about WCW booking logic, but that'd be like the Iron Sheik coming out to save Hulk Hogan in 2005.

Cena-Rusev was fun, kind of a throwback to Hogan era '80s. Cena from an entertaining wrestling standpoint was at his best in 2015 with this and the U.S. title challenges. Rusev's career has really gone downhill in contrast...

Undertaker-Wyatt, there was no thrill to the match. Bray Wyatt is just not as strong a heel as a person in his position should be now, and it was true at Mania last year. Keep in mind that Undertaker in the runup to WrestleMania last year literally DID NOTHING to build this match up. Not once did he appear on TV. Wyatt was talking to a rocking chair the month prior. WWE looks at their roster and wonders why no one can get over, this program is a good example why.

Reigns-Lesnar. Brock is the biggest star on the roster then and now. I've come to hate the Money in the Bank briefcase because it lends itself to 3-minute long title reigns which does no one any favors, but what Rollins did here is about the best use of it as far as shock unexpected value. Reigns has needed another year to get himself enough over to become the guy. I guess he's a little better. Instead of Brock he gets to beat Hunter.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Wrestlemania 31 hasn't aged well after the live viewing, that's for sure.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Wrestlemania 31 hasn't aged well after the live viewing, that's for sure.

There was a lot of cheap parlor tricks, smoke, and mirrors that made the event seem better than what it was. I liked two matches on that card and it was the first two on the actual show. lol

 

[M.C.G. 31]

There was a lot of cheap parlor tricks, smoke, and mirrors that made the event seem better than what it was. I liked two matches on that card and it was the first two on the actual show. lol

Shows always seem better live just like some matches seem worse than they are live when we don't like the booking direction or result.

Orton/Rollins was largely forgettable aside from the finish, Cena/Rusev wasn't that great, Taker/Wyatt did what they could with one 50-year-old and another guy who had to have his ankle numbed to work the match.

The tag title match, Ladder match and Lesnar/Reigns were the best matches on the show, but I don't even remember the first two matches that well anymore either.

 

[bruins309]

Wrestlemania 31 hasn't aged well after the live viewing, that's for sure.

It's a terrible show. Bryan wins the IC title but that is so bittersweet in retrospect for obvious reasons. The sun glare early on is so distracting. HHH-Sting is an abomination and not because HHH won but because of all the run-ins. It wasn't nostalgic, it was just dumb. Taker-Bray was no good, in part because Bray hurt his ankle that day. The best part of Cena-Rusev was Rusev in the tank and much like Mike Dukakis once he was seen in a tank it all went to hell for his career. Rollins cashing in helped no one: Rollins gets no benefit from pinning Reigns, the Brock rub disappears into thin air, and Roman looks like a schmuck. Stephanie ends up with a 20 minute talking segment, and THAT was the thing I liked most and I hate her. it helped that upon viewing that segment live, I didn't know Ronda Rousey was front row since I missed the early part of the show live.

Also, the build counts. The build to the show was awful.

Does anyone know any scuttlebutt on where WM33 might be? Is Minnesota out for sure?

 

[Le Tricolore]

A couple of weeks ago, I wasn't looking forward to the card at all, but now it looks like it may turn out to be pretty fun.

Triple H vs Reigns will be decent in ring and will have the bonus of 70,000 people crapping on Reigns.

Shane vs Undertaker in HIAC. Well, this was never on anyone's mind at all. This is really cool. Shane will take a beating like no one but him can, and I'll get to see a HIAC match live, which is really cool.

Ambrose vs Lesnar may be the most entertaining match of the night.

And then people are expecting a US Title ladder match (yes please!)... Stardust vs Steven Amell or whatever, the Battle Royal... New Day... the Rock. Yeah, this will be fun.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Now that Shane/Taker is confirmed, anyone think a Stone Cold run-in, in his home state, is more likely?

Or is he done for good?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Now that Shane/Taker is confirmed, anyone think a Stone Cold run-in, in his home state, is more likely?

Or is he done for good?

I don't think Austin is opposed to doing a run-in but it's pretty much limited to something where he won't be expected to have a match in response. Pretty much I can see his run-in being something to prevent Vince from doing something in the match but that's about it.

 

[Dr Pepper]

That shattered-glass pop, though, would be legendary.

 

[Engebretson]

Does anyone know any scuttlebutt on where WM33 might be? Is Minnesota out for sure?

It better not be. US Bank Stadium will be completed in the fall and is completely indoors so WWE won't have to worry about weather issues. 70,000+ seating capacity, brand new state-of-the-art arena where WWE could potentially set the indoor attendance record for the young stadium.

Minneapolis isn't the sunny destination that is Orlando or LA, but seriously, how good would WrestleMania look in this...

 

[Kimi]

From what Meltzer said last night, Minneapolis is out; but he doesn't know why. Orlando will be getting the next one (not 100% yet, but it very much looks like it).

 

[Emperoreddy]

Having Bray/Sting/Taker enter with any sort of sunlight is a huge fail.

Not sure how else you can do it outside of avoid the West coast.

That or go indoors. Legit the only way. They can't even do LA without sun issues as its roof is designed to let light in.

Bruins breakdown is right. 31 aged badly. The sun glare was awful and most of the matches were terrible. Best moments just from memory were Rusev in the tank (my god how far he has fallen). Ronda's shirt (it's over 9000) and Brock beating the puss out of Roman and the birth of Suplex City *****.

I still loved Seth's cash in but it does hurt in hindsight because of how badly they booked him as champ.

As for this year. It just got a million times more interesting. Go to Takeover for an amazing show of actual wrestling and Mania for just overbooked fun.

 

[The Gongshow]

WM should be fun, TakeOver will still be better but either way should be a very fun 3 days. TakeOver, Mania, RAW after mania. Can't wait

 

[Kimi]

And the two EVOLVE shows which are there too!