Would you trade Bouchard?

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

Anyone think Bob's comments today on certain players needing to "read the tea leaves" was directed at Bouchard.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Best defensive season to date is a stretch.

This shows 2 things.

1. People are incredibly bias
2. Stats aren’t everything. Some of you guys are way to reliant on “stats”

Clearly I’m not ignoring the subject. Come back and talk to me in 3 years when Bouchard isn’t any better and doesn’t match his post season production of last year.

I’m not going to beat a dead horse anymore. You all know my opinion on the subject.

When you make stuff up you really can't call it an opinion anymore. Just sayin

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Best defensive season to date is a stretch.

This shows 2 things.

1. People are incredibly bias
2. Stats aren’t everything. Some of you guys are way to reliant on “stats”

Clearly I’m not ignoring the subject. Come back and talk to me in 3 years when Bouchard isn’t any better and doesn’t match his post season production of last year.

I’m not going to beat a dead horse anymore. You all know my opinion on the subject.

Yeah, others are incredibly bias when you are objective on the matter.

You pretty much say everyone else is bias when they support him.

You also make stuff up as if your opinion or view of the game holds more weight that other posters

 

[ManOfSteelI]

In fairness, this guy is just about the biggest Bouchard promoter out there. Bouchard could score an own goal firing it directly into the Oilers empty net and he'd talk about what a great breakout play he made to get in the open to take that shot.

If he's so great defensively, why does KK never have him out defending the lead in the final minutes of a 1 goal game? Always rotates 14/49 & 25/27. That home game recently against LA, Bouchard didn't see the ice for the final 3-1/2 minutes.

Definitely fair!

I would personally say that even his biggest fans won't try to argue that he's a top choice for extended defensive zone shifts. Hence the lack of PK and 6v5 time. I don't know the dude, but I'd wager a bet that he'd agree.

 

[bucks_oil]

Bouchard will start playing better. I'm calling that now, but no way he replicates last years performance.

Super insightful… he’s not replicating last year… yeah… that was one of the top-5 performances (factoring in +/-) in the last 25 years.

So yeah, he’s not going to repeat that this year and that’s ok.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Let’s say Dobson comes in at 8 and Bouchard comes in at 9.5? If not, what would Dobsons salary have to be compared to 9.5 of Bouchard for you to make the trade if at all.

Half of Bouchard’s. 1.5 million is enough to sign a Janmark level player. Not worth it.

Anyone think Bob's comments today on certain players needing to "read the tea leaves" was directed at Bouchard.

I think he was talking about Jeff Skinner. Bob loves Bouchard.

 

[GrumpyKoala]

9 millions is good, but that as high I would go.
Ideally its a long term deal at 8.something.

Even with the cap going up, 9 millions for a defenseman still land you in the top 10 ish for the foreseeable future.

Currently 11 defenseman make north of 9, lots of those contracts are not that great, and are sunset deal about to expire.

 

[barry halls]

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He might be the best dman of his generation when it comes to playoffs.

If I'm Bowman and one of my staff even brings up the notion of trading Bouchard they're fired and sent home on the spot.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Yeah, others are incredibly bias when you are objective on the matter.

You pretty much say everyone else is bias when they support him.

You also make stuff up as if your opinion or view of the game holds more weight that other posters

When you make stuff up you really can't call it an opinion anymore. Just sayin

Give it a break. You know my opinion on the matter.

I'm sorry it hurts your feelings that I have a negative view point on an Edmonton Oiler. The whole hockey world knows Bouchard isn't a top guy so maybe get with the program. He isn't even being considered for the spot on team Canada.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Super insightful… he’s not replicating last year… yeah… that was one of the top-5 performances (factoring in +/-) in the last 25 years.

So yeah, he’s not going to repeat that this year and that’s ok.

Ya well everyone on here is saying he's going to be a playoff beast and replicate his past performance so talk to them instead of giving me shit.

Bouchard has been bad this year. He turns the puck over like Karlsson and doesn't give enough effort out there.

I've said all along Bouchard is in the tier of Sergachev, Dobson etc. Please tell me how that is SO WRONG.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Give it a break. You know my opinion on the matter.

I'm sorry it hurts your feelings that I have a negative view point on an Edmonton Oiler. The whole hockey world knows Bouchard isn't a top guy so maybe get with the program. He isn't even being considered for the spot on team Canada.

You need to stop telling everyone they are bias or call them out on being hurt by your posts
Take your own advice and get over yourself

Like I said, you don't have an opinion. When you ignore facts and make shit up...it's called an agenda.

Nobody cares you don't Bouchard. They care when you're dishonest

 

[McBooya42]

No....

 

[Oilhawks]

Not wanting to sound like a broken record, but trading top offensive defensemen just entering their primes are things dumb orgs do

I feel like the Oilers have mostly moved past the "dumb" part. Hopefully

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

You need to stop telling everyone they are bias or call them out on being hurt by your posts
Take your own advice and get over yourself

Like I said, you don't have an opinion. When you ignore facts and make shit up...it's called an agenda.

Nobody cares you don't Bouchard. They care when you're dishonest.

The funny thing is you guys are dishonest by overrating Bouchard. I said he's on the Sergachev tier.

Keep attacking me and tell me I don't have an opinion. Whatever makes you feel good.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Anyone think Bob's comments today on certain players needing to "read the tea leaves" was directed at Bouchard.

Very unlikely that is the case, I would guess J. Skinner who is scratched and put in roles that don't fit his talent set, making me think they want him to waive his NMC and accept a trade to a non-contender for the sake of playing time and his career.

 

[Canovin]

The funny thing is you guys are dishonest by overrating Bouchard. I said he's on the Sergachev tier.

Keep attacking me and tell me I don't have an opinion. Whatever makes you feel good.

That's about right with me. I view Bouchard in the 8.5M category(would be 9M if it was signed today) even with the insane 11M ask, With that said I view Sergachev higher than most. Put a right handed Ekholm next to him, that would be a nice top pairing. Sergachev would have been my pick if we didn't get Pulju

 

[OfCorsiDid]

Trading Bouchard only works if the trade makes the team immediately better.

I’m not sure that trade exists because any trade would require a top pairing RHD coming back and I don’t really think anyone is itching to trade someone that fits that bill.

Bouch having a rough year is actually a blessing in disguise. Don’t look the gift horse in the mouth. Take his lacklustre season and use it to lower his ask. Everyone wins. This isn’t rocket science. And I should know because I am a rocket scientist.