Says the guy that "doesn't understand" how Bouchard still makes mistakes after 300 NHL games but artfully dodges Nurse criticism when he looks absolutely braindead for huge stretches every season after nearly 700 games. Including all of last playoffs, where he was arguably the worst player on any playoff team.
Defensive zone play without the puck matters very little nowadays.
If you think the picks I'm suggesting is 2nd and 5th is enough to get both Rasmus Andersson and Weegar then you're reading my post incorrectly.
You don't have me on ignore. CO is just over-exaggerating about my post
What part of it was an overexaggeration? You literally said trade Bouchard for picks and trade those picks for Weegar and Andersson.
Well Rasmus Anderson asking price is 1st, 2nd and a prospect. Weegar probably costs 2 x 1st. Add that up and that's what I would trade Bouchard for. Not for what Petry went for 2nd and 5th
Their asking price would be double that to Edmonton. Calgary wouldn't trade us Tanev, they're not trading us two top pairing defensemen. You'd be left holding your nuts in one hand and random picks from whoever in your other hand. Not how a team with Cup aspirations does business. Get good players, keep good players.
The asking price has been set across the league. There's no doubling anything. This isn't facebook marketplace. You set the price one thing and once you get there, it's double.
The hot and cold and the way he's playing this season, the Nurse deal should be the limit.
That's not how the NHL works. Teams do and will trade players for less to teams they don't have a vested interest in keeping away from a Cup. Edmonton tried hard for Tanev and got told to pound sand.
Tanev also wanted to go to Dallas. I know the asking is usually a little more for Edmonton but it's a sweetener not double.
Of course there's a limit. I wouldn't go over 10.
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Nurse's worth is somewhat skewed by the first few years of his deal being under a flat cap. Had Covid not happened we would be looking at a cap of close to $100M. We would probably have seen a fair number of guys making more than that.
Andy Strickland is suggesting that Rantanen may sign with the Oilers.
I take Bouchard at 8-9 all day long. That would be amazing.Of course there's a limit. I wouldn't go over 10.
Too many people are absolutely fixated on his side wanting 11 this past summer. He was coming off one of the best postseasons a defenceman had ever had and that's how negotiations work. 11 represented the absolute maximum his side thought they could get at that time. Now I'd think their ask would be around 9 and probably settling around 8.
People don't seem to understand that an Evan Bouchard that's taken a step back from last year is still a very good player. There are maybe 10 guys in the league that could replace him.
Flames and Oilers trade for D-man would be a GM 'career-ender,' says scribe
For Flames GM Craig Conroy, this trade would be a monumental risk — and potentially a career-defining mistake.
Here's Lowetide saying that Conroy trading Andersson to Edmonton could get him fired, lol.
The hate runs DEEP in these organizations. Unless it was an out and out fleecing for the Flames, they'd trade him somewhere else for less.
Not that Bouchard is Coffey but this is exactly what Coffey did incredibly well.
If you actually took the time to objectively read my posts (which you clearly havent) then you would understand my stance on Bouchard.
So by the time Bouchard is making 9% of the cap, McDavid and Drai will be trending downhill. I'm surprised there's people who's okay with giving Bouchard 11M. I agree I doubt he gets 11M thoNurse's worth is somewhat skewed by the first few years of his deal being under a flat cap. Had Covid not happened we would be looking at a cap of close to $100M. We would probably have seen a fair number of guys making more than that.
I don't think Bouchard gets $11M unless he duplicates last year's playoffs (or clos to it) and the Oilers go deep. But the reality is that we are on the cusp of a potentially massive increase in the cap. A player Bouchard's age signing for 8 years should be expecting to be over paid in the first half of his deal. Typically for me I ask, is he being paid appropriately at the midpoint for his deal. By the midpoint of an 8 year deal we could be looking at a cap of close to $120M. So is Bouchard worth 9% of the cap? In today's money that is an $8M defenseman.
If you want to look at recent contracts consider Brock Faber who will get $8.5M next year for three years. Jake Sanderson got 8 years at over $8M. Power got $8.35M.
I have argued that a two or three year deal for Bouchard in the $8.5-9M range might make sense for both players. I don't expect it to happen, but I do think it makes sense.
Andy Strickland is suggesting that Rantanen may sign with the Oilers.
Unless you have hundreds of posters ignored, that's just a flat out lie.
Dobson is the dollar store version of Bouchard. He's bad at everything Bouchard is bad at, not as good at everything Bouchard is good at, and has been a playoff no-show.
The Oilers are an elite possession team so they don't have to defend nearly as much as most other teams so as a result they allow among the least amount of high danger chances in the league, the metrics show this out as well as the raw stats.
Bouchard probably gets what he is worth regardless of what stage of their careers McDavid and Draisaitl are at. That's just how it works. By the midpoint of his contract we may well see second pairing defensemen routinely getting $8-9M. That would equate to deal in the $6M range today. If Bouchard is still a top 10 scoring defenseman and is still a top pairing guy $11M would not be out of line. That is why I am advocating for a shorter deal. The team could use extra space right now and Bouchard has not yet proved he is worth that money.
What a ridiculous post.
