Would we have made the playoffs without a coaching change?

PB37

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I loved claude and he got way too much flak during his time here as a Bruin. He'll go down as one of if not the best coach in Bruins history.

I say no, they don't. The Bruins needed something BIG to break the malaise and the coaching change was the tipping point this group needed to make this happen.
 

CharasLazyWrister

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Oh, but there's "no one available" to replace Claude right now.

I'm glad the Claude loyalists are around to admitting it was a good idea, even if it's still being minimized to "they just needed something to get their attention".

They're not only playing with more emotion, but they're playing with more confidence in a system that has similarities to Claude's but clearly encourages more one-on-one and offensive play.

I agree. Team needed a kick in the pants. But simply putting a new face behind the bench isn't the sole reason this team is doing better. It's who the guy is behind the bench.
 

DKH

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Claude was on an 85 point pace after 55 games

Cassidy a 120 point pace for 27 games

Gee I don't know
 

CharasLazyWrister

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I loved claude and he got way too much flak during his time here as a Bruin. He'll go down as one of if not the best coach in Bruins history.

I say no, they don't. The Bruins needed something BIG to break the malaise and the coaching change was the tipping point this group needed to make this happen.

Maybe as far as coaches just getting flak from fans in general.

But the fact that Claude had so much of the fanbase comfortably on his side, after two straight playoff collapses (we looked to be headed straight down the path of a third), always surprised me.

Boston fans really seem to value loyalty and tradition. Chara certainly has it. Venture outside of hockey and into football. Remember when Bledsoe went down, Brady performed the way he did, and yet you still had swarms of fans demanding Bledsoe be put back in? Even though it was rather obvious what the right choice was.....???

Claude had a lot of success and had, statistically speaking, more long term success here than any other Bruins coach. However, there were tons of warning signs over the last few years that his coaching, system, whatever was not working for this team. Team was routinely playing games down to opponents, not competing at all with more challenging opponents and seemingly reverting to an extremely rudimentary and unenergetic systematic game. It was on Claude to get his team going and he failed to do it over a longer period of time than many coaches would have gotten (yes, most likely due to his past successes).

I think most us know now the right decision was made. But I still think some people are riding their righteousness a bit by not giving Cassidy the credit he deserves. Bruce has preached a style of game that fits this particular team much better than Julien.
 

Colt.45Orr

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By continuing his game plan of not activating the D in the new NHL?

By continuing his game plan of taking tons of poor quality, outside shots?



Hell no, we don't make the playoffs under Julien.

I wanted him gone years ago so this season has been grrrrrrrrrreat!
 

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Claude got stale with this team and it showed. He had people in his corner, and others not.

I think the move was necessary to motivate the right players, and the change in style helped out immensely. Let's see what the post-Claude post season looks like.

Claude had too many disgruntled employees on his team.

I voted a big No, and would've voted No the last 2 seasons as well.
 

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We can not overlook that Cassidy gave Dobby a clean sheet of ice. Julien no longer trusted him and rode Rask too much.

I love Claude as I got to know him as a casual friend because of a breakfast place in Arlington and one morning he said to me I know you from the Garden. We started talking about everything EXCEPT hockey. He was fascinated on why Route 2 just stopped at Fresh Pond as it made no sense to him.

As it is the B's are getting into the playoffs by a razor thin margin. If Claude had stayed the team most likely would have finished behind the Islanders and Tampa.

Claude is like Terry Francona - His name will always be on Stanley as coach of the 2011 Bruins and for that we will always thank him. I suspected for a couple of years that if the Bruins relieved Claude from duties Montreal would come calling and that of course happened.

Sweeney made the right call at the exact right time.
 

Jdavidev

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Claude had too many disgruntled employees on his team.

I voted a big No, and would've voted No the last 2 seasons as well.

Two years ago when they missed, there were a ton of key injuries to 46, 33 & 44 plus historic run by Ottawa. I would have given him a chance to turn it around. But after last season missing again with a big fail again at the end, no way, should have been let go then.

Over 2.5 years to show his time in Boston wasn't over, and wasn't getting it done. Cassidy has been pretty damn great. He's no horse whisperer, and there still are very real holes on the team, but my god, he's got his best players playing their best and patched up the weaker spots to make this a really dangerous team. 18-7 and #1 GF since he came in? Hell yeah I approve.
 

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We never know. Maybe. Maybe not.

But I'm pretty sure the Habs wouldn't have made the playoffs.
 

Ivo

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Probably not. That doesn't mean Julien is not a great coach - look how well he's doing in Montreal. But this team clearly benefited from the change. It just sucks that the Habs have benefited from it as well. They were in freefall before hiring Clode.
 

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No way. I love Coach Clode and what he accomplished here but the change was necessary. The Bruins of earlier this season were the definition of stale. Clode should have been fired after the disaster at last year's home finale.
 

Gordoff

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Not a chance, it was a miracle if we scored over 2 goals a game this season with julien.

Yes, they lost all confidence and imagination under CJ and seemed to play in fear of losing every minute of a game. They were playing scared and nervous and tight. NOT fun!

We can not overlook that Cassidy gave Dobby a clean sheet of ice. Julien no longer trusted him and rode Rask too much.

I love Claude as I got to know him as a casual friend because of a breakfast place in Arlington and one morning he said to me I know you from the Garden. We started talking about everything EXCEPT hockey. He was fascinated on why Route 2 just stopped at Fresh Pond as it made no sense to him.

As it is the B's are getting into the playoffs by a razor thin margin. If Claude had stayed the team most likely would have finished behind the Islanders and Tampa.

Claude is like Terry Francona - His name will always be on Stanley as coach of the 2011 Bruins and for that we will always thank him. I suspected for a couple of years that if the Bruins relieved Claude from duties Montreal would come calling and that of course happened.

Sweeney made the right call at the exact right time.

That's funny, living in West Medford we're a stones throw from Arlington center and my wife kept seeing Claude in the area and at the Burlington Mall etc here and there.

We loved CJ but knew that his time was up back a few years ago but really didn't want to see him fired until lately (I wanted him fired but my wife I think was afraid to see him go) after so many years of coaches like Steve Kasper and Dave Lewis. I voted NO and the proof is in the pudding. He lost the trust of/for everyone except for the first line of Bergy/Marchand. He only trusted Rask even if he really didn't believe in him and would've overplayed him to the point of exhaustion. He never liked to make in game line mixing decisions and he ate babies for breakfast LOL..
Honestly though, this group of players was done with him but very loyal players like Bergeron and Marchand were (I think) in fear of life without him.
 
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Gordoff

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I'm trying to remember how many points the team was trending at getting if he stayed. Anyone remember that?
 

LSCII

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Team needed something different after 4 years of stay-the-course.

Wait, I'm confused. You're saying the team needed something different, yet you voted they'd have made it under Claude? Something doesn't add up there...:laugh:
 

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