Just like how Rangers fans say Chytil is "good" but try to pawn him off with every proposal on this forum.
Value of: Would The Rangers consider Lafreniere for Hertl with a contract extension?
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Just like how Rangers fans say Chytil is "good" but try to pawn him off with every proposal on this forum.
The Crypto Guy
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No lmao.
Only on the HFBoards can they think they can trade a impending UFA for a 1st overall pick from 2 drafts ago. Never change guys.
Only on the HFBoards can they think they can trade a impending UFA for a 1st overall pick from 2 drafts ago. Never change guys.
You must of missed the early season threads where almost every ranger fan had Chytil in the 2C spot and Strome traded for nothing. He had a good year last year especially on 5v5 scoring. This year......not so much.
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Ugh yea...I think we all know he is the better player currently...with that said, still a HUGE no from NYR. This isn't you trying to win the cup in your EA NHL game..
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For just this season or for the next 8 years? We'll keep Laf, thanks though. I'm sure there will be a laundry lists of teams just waiting to give you their number 1 prospect/young player for Hertl....maybe you can grab Power?
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If you took a poll of the players what do you think? Next 8 years? Too funny
For a Hertl with a contract? We'd cash in for sure. I'd prefer we keep him though
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Yeah well not all Shark fans are on board. If Hertl wants to play for a serious contender then it's not likely he will be back.
Won't find many Shark fans who want to see a Tavaras situation play out
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And if the Rangers can afford Hertl, and sign him long term, I’d go for it ! Hertl is very good and fully developed and would definitely help the Rangers win a cup before Lafreniere would !!
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For Lafreniere you are going to have to offer a center of much higher caliber than Hertl, any trade for him in a 1 for 1 like this would have to at least be on the same level as Nieuwendyk for Iginla I would think.
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No, there hasn't. This is literally what Brooks wrote:
He then went on to muse about how any realistic piece coming BACK from Vancouver wouldn't work with the Rangers' salary cap crunch over the next two seasons. He speculated that Vancouver MIGHT be interested, based on nothing more than the fact that Laf's former agent is now in their front office. He didn't say one thing about Laf being available. And certainly not for a lower-end 1C (in 8 of his 9 NHL seasons, he's failed to break 50 points) with bad knees who is about to be on what will instantly become a bad contract. Hertl is the definition of a guy who has a lot of value while on a bargain contract, but is JUST good enough that he'll end up getting severely over-paid. He's the C equivalent of Dan Girardi.
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Interesting fact--Meier's best ever season (66 points in 78 games)? Five of Panarin's six seasons beat that (four of them by 10+ points). But, you say, THIS season is Meier's best season, right? Bread's ahead of him this year as well, and it hasn't even been a particularly good season for Panarin. The short version is, you don't need to worry about turning down Meier for Panarin straight up, because nobody sober would offer Panarin for Meier to begin with.
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This is one of those strange situations where the trade like this won't be win-win. Lafreniere's value is at it's lowest...but if he ever figures things out, unless Hertl is instrumental in a Rangers championship this trade would haunt them. If he busts, the Sharks would have given away their most tradeable asset for nothing.
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You just don't make trades like this.
It reminds me of the Erat for Forsberg deal.
At the time the Caps were trying to go for it, I guess it made sense. In hindsight it didn't work, Erat didn't last and long after he hung up his skates the kid you traded continues to make people look like idiots for trading him.
It reminds me of the Erat for Forsberg deal.
At the time the Caps were trying to go for it, I guess it made sense. In hindsight it didn't work, Erat didn't last and long after he hung up his skates the kid you traded continues to make people look like idiots for trading him.
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The number Hertl comes in at for an extension probably doesn't work for us. For starters, Sharks would have to take Nemeth back to help with the cap space. (2.5 signed until July 2024).
The organization would most likely trade Kakko before Lafreniere and that probably doesn't work for the Sharks, even though Kakko has been the better player but struggles to get production on the score sheet.
Rangers need to make a choice on Strome, and if/when they let him walk, that doesn't free up enough for an extended Hertl because we have players that should be replaced and not given a minute of ice time next season. (Hunt, Gauthier)
I'd love to say that those players would be replaced by ELC contracts, but the truth is our organization loves to bring in a prospect and pull them after their first bad game. So I don't know if Barron will be a cheap full time player next season. Othmann either makes the team or goes back to Juniors. He can't play in the AHL next season. Kravtsov is a question mark and most likely trade bait. And If Rangers make another trade splash for an RFA 3rd liner, well that's more cap allocated to next season. I just don't see how it works out on the cap when you look at how much work needs to be done to this team. Most of the offseason toughness moves blew up in their face (Blias out the season, Nemeth, and Tinordi). We ended up with Goodrow shifted all over the place form 3rd line winger/center, or 1st/2nd line winger and inconsistent Ryan Reeves who either makes a splash in the game or is irrelevant skating in quick sand, doing absolutely nothing when players rough us up. The risk on trading Lafreniere is too much when you consider the cap problems and how the team is relying on Shesterkin to carry them through the 2nd worst corsi in the NHL.
The organization would most likely trade Kakko before Lafreniere and that probably doesn't work for the Sharks, even though Kakko has been the better player but struggles to get production on the score sheet.
Rangers need to make a choice on Strome, and if/when they let him walk, that doesn't free up enough for an extended Hertl because we have players that should be replaced and not given a minute of ice time next season. (Hunt, Gauthier)
I'd love to say that those players would be replaced by ELC contracts, but the truth is our organization loves to bring in a prospect and pull them after their first bad game. So I don't know if Barron will be a cheap full time player next season. Othmann either makes the team or goes back to Juniors. He can't play in the AHL next season. Kravtsov is a question mark and most likely trade bait. And If Rangers make another trade splash for an RFA 3rd liner, well that's more cap allocated to next season. I just don't see how it works out on the cap when you look at how much work needs to be done to this team. Most of the offseason toughness moves blew up in their face (Blias out the season, Nemeth, and Tinordi). We ended up with Goodrow shifted all over the place form 3rd line winger/center, or 1st/2nd line winger and inconsistent Ryan Reeves who either makes a splash in the game or is irrelevant skating in quick sand, doing absolutely nothing when players rough us up. The risk on trading Lafreniere is too much when you consider the cap problems and how the team is relying on Shesterkin to carry them through the 2nd worst corsi in the NHL.
Maybe we can form a sub category where the league championship is not determined by who wins games, but by who has the best Corsi stats. I wonder if the champion would be the same in both?
Still I wonder why out of all the preposterous speculation that goes on in this section, this is the one proposal you decided to go after.
Not that it is likely this trade will ever happen, but given reasons already mentioned this thread is more legitimate than about 90% of what's going here.
