Worst trade of the last decade

[SabresFan26]

Poll is missing a first round pick in the ROR deal.

Obviously ROR had a great year and won the cup but at the time of the trade, most pundits were saying Buffalo made out like bandits getting a solid prospect, a 1st and 2nd, and two players to balance the bottom 6 forward group with depth. They also ridded themselves of a contract that could be bad in 3 years. Lastly, a lot speculated ROR wanted out in Buffalo or requested a trade as he made certain remarks to Buffalo media.

 

[SabresFan26]

Matt Duchene trade could be on here too.

 

[bert]

The sens have traded Turris, 4th overall, Bowers, Hammond and a 3rd round pick for 19th and Abramov. This is absolutely the worst. If you break it down into what the Avs flipped Turris for in the same deal its even worse.

Girard, Bowers, Kamanev, 4th OA, Hammond, 2nd, 3rd for 19th and Abramov.

This trade was so damaging to the organization they purged the entire roster including Stone and Karlsson for peanuts. I dont know how there is a worse trade than this one in NHL history.

 

[thadd]

You gussed wrong.
Kessel was traded for draft picks.

Which were Hamilton and Seguin and I think also Jared Knight.

 

[Braunbaer]

Which were Hamilton and Seguin and I think also Jared Knight.

Doesn't change the fact the Leafs never traded Seguin nor Hamilton, because they weren't even in the league at that point.
You should value the trade based on the trade itself; not on the players that resulted from those picks.

If you trade a 1st for e.g. David Krejci it's a bad trade. Always!
When the other team uses that pick to draft Patrik Stefan it doesn't make that trade good.

So had the Bruins had drafted pure garbage ... the Leafs would have won the trade in that case even though the trade itself was the same in both cases?

That's like saying a rich guy selling his house for 100 bucks was a good deal, because it was burnt down the day after the purchase.

 

[StoneHands]

The sens have traded Turris, 4th overall, Bowers, Hammond and a 3rd round pick for 19th and Abramov. This is absolutely the worst. If you break it down into what the Avs flipped Turris for in the same deal its even worse.

Girard, Bowers, Kamanev, 4th OA, Hammond, 2nd, 3rd for 19th and Abramov.

This trade was so damaging to the organization they purged the entire roster including Stone and Karlsson for peanuts. I dont know how there is a worse trade than this one in NHL history.

This isn't 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon. What happens with a player 2 years after you trade for him does not make that part of the original trade.

 

[bert]

This isn't 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon. What happens with a player 2 years after you trade for him does not make that part of the original trade.

So you dont take into account how long the player plays on the team in the deal? It looks even worse then.

Turris, Bowers, 3rd, Hammond 4th overall for 1.3 years of Duchene.

 

[StoneHands]

So you dont take into account how long the player plays on the team in the deal? It looks even worse then.

Turris, Bowers, 3rd, Hammond 4th overall for 1.3 years of Duchene.

Not unless the entire plan was to keep the player for 1.3 years. If this is how you evaluate trades then you're still off since Columbus trading Voracek, Couturier, and Cousins for 39 games of Jeff Carter is way worse. Hell, pretty much every trade deadline deal for a player on an expiring contract is worse since they rarely resign.

 

[bert]

Not unless the entire plan was to keep the player for 1.3 years. If this is how you evaluate trades then you're still off since Columbus trading Voracek, Couturier, and Cousins for 39 games of Jeff Carter is way worse. Hell, pretty much every trade deadline deal for a player on an expiring contract is worse since they rarely resign.

No they flipped Carter for other assets. So its one way or the other your argument doesnt work on that one.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Kyle Quincey traded to the Wings for a 1st rounder that turned into Vasilevskiy

The other details that make that so brutal is the Wings drafted and developed Quincey and put him on waivers. THEN gave up a first rounder three seasons later to get him back.

 

[StoneHands]

No they flipped Carter for other assets. So its one way or the other your argument doesnt work on that one.

Yes, which is why I started that by saying "If this is how you evaluate trades..." emphasis on YOU. I know it's crazy but I evaluate the trades based on the actual pieces involved from each team. What happens to those players years down the road is irrelevant since that's quite literally not the same trade. In the case of your post it was Turris, Hammond, Bowers, a 1st, a 3rd for Duchene. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[SotasicA]

Wouldn't the worst trade be one where both teams got worse?

The opposite of a win-win trade.

 

[bert]

Yes, which is why I started that by saying "If this is how you evaluate trades..." emphasis on YOU. I know it's crazy but I evaluate the trades based on the actual pieces involved from each team. What happens to those players years down the road is irrelevant since that's quite literally not the same trade. In the case of your post it was Turris, Hammond, Bowers, a 1st, a 3rd for Duchene. Nothing more, nothing less.

How long the players stick around has to be part of the context thats how people evaluate the trade. Especially when draft picks are involved.

 

[StoneHands]

How long the players stick around has to be part of the context thats how people evaluate the trade. Especially when draft picks are involved.

Then pretty much every trade deadline deal where a team doesn't win the Cup should be the only trades considered here.

 

[CoachBadkitten]

Gotta be Erat for Forsberg

 

[Ranksu]

 

[illpucks]

Hall may have won an MVP... but ROR lead his team to a Stanley Cup & was playoff MVP. Hard to not choose his trade.

You mean Binnington

 

[Voight]

You mean Binnington

He was good but it was ROR who lead in scoring + won the Smythe. While also being a two-way force.

 

[BruinsFan37]

Not really a trade per se, but...

Jack Studnicka (Edmonton's 2nd round pick in 2017) for Peter Chiarelli

(actually HockeyDB lists it as a trade lol)

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Not really a trade per se, but...

Jack Studnicka (Edmonton's 2nd round pick in 2017) for Peter Chiarelli

(actually HockeyDB lists it as a trade lol)

LMAO

 

[weaponomega]

21 year old Tyler Seguin for nothing has to be up there

 

[Beerz]

ROR trade easily...

At least the Oilers got an NHL player in Larsson

We got 3 pylons

 

[Jon Bonham]

Lol the Hall trade is only bad in hindsight. Lets not forget how Larsson was touted as the second coming of defensive hockey before the trade.

However, some trades are terrible the second they happen. Like Forsberg for Erat. I'm forever convinced something was lost in translation or nothing, because no GM could actually be that stupid.

 

[neelynugs]

21 year old Tyler Seguin for nothing has to be up there

literally nothing left. seguin trade and filip forsberg trade are the 2 worst in last 10 years.

 

[Juicy Pop]

Carter to Columbus

A lot of it is terrible in hindsight, but the fact that he juked them into a second bad trade really takes the cake. They ultimately traded Jakub Voracek, a 1st [Couturier] and a 3rd [Cousins] for Jack Johnson and a 1st [Dano].

Hall. Just imagine the 115 point McDavid, the 105 point Draisaitl with Taylor Hall on the same line.

We don't need to imagine it.

It didn't work because Hall and McDavid are both puck-on-stick players that want the play to run through them.