Post-Game Talk: Worst team wins? Or loses? Habs lose 2nd straight

[hvac412]

If Habs indeed manage to get rid of anyone of these useless vets whose contract is not up after this season, they should totally re-sign moneyhands. Unless they are thinking another 1st overall pick in 2024. And especially if moneyhands is injured and cannot fetch much in return anyway.

Bubble wrap him, get him lots of massage sessions and save him for the 1st round pick in 2024.

I prefer the latter part of your post when I watched the play that he was supposedly injured on it surprised me, he literally just turned his body and all of a sudden he was injured which means his hips are never going to be 100%,scary.

 

[hvac412]

I loved when Marty demoted Slav so he could put Drouin on the PP, then Drouin coughs up the puck a few times. I tried to like Marty, I thought he would be different.. he's just another puppet and turning out to be a total loser behind the bend. Why would you demote the kid when he had chemistry with Anderson and starting to bust out the last 5 games? Marty is pissing me off

And let's not forget putting Wideman on the point for that pathetic one timer that is as slow as shit and right to the chest.

 

[Habs]

MSL is doing it here and there but not as much as some fans want? Makes you wonder if we have gone overboard with trying to play coach or GM over the years eh?

MSL is a players coach but he's balancing ice time and oppertunity to his best ability. Imagine if he placed Slaf in the top 6 to start the season and he drowned to a point where he confidence is shattered? That's not good for development.

Guhle looks mentally tired to me. 20 min a game in his age 20 season is rare. Very rare. And we want him to play more?



I think betting against MSL on his ability to mentor young players is foolish.

I don't like pulling the plug on a young player when he's been stellar and giving the dead weight on this team primetime minutes when its totally undeserved, it sends the wrong message.

 

[The Real Timo]

Just buy out all the deadwood. I’m about to tune out of the games

There once was a hockey team poor
Their record was bad, it was a bore
The young players were good
But the old ones, not so much,
they should Retire and leave the rink, that's for sure

There once was a hockey coach named Marty
Whose bosses would make him do, do, do
He'd work hard all day
But his team still would play
Like they didn't have any clue, clue, clue

There once was a coach named Marty
Whose bosses' orders he had to carry
But no matter what he tried
His team always got denied
And their losses never seemed to tarry

There once was a coach named Marty
Whose team was quite young and hearty
But the GM insisted On playing the veterans
Now Marty's team is just losing badly!

Your poem is as good as the team it is written about

 

[Habs]

And let's not forget putting Wideman on the point for that pathetic one timer that is as slow as shit and right to the chest.

Stupid Wideman on the PP, why on earth are we doing this? What has he proven to take that spot from even Arbs at this point, or Guhle? Someone explain this to me? He is not known to be a PP specialist, he's a KHL castoff never and couldn't make the cut in stupid Ottawa either.

 

[The Real Timo]

I actually find this refreshing. When you have the man advantage, you’re playing to win. Put the most offensive players on the ice. At this time, the defencemen are not among that group.

That worked wonders, didn't it?

 

[MXD]

I actually find this refreshing. When you have the man advantage, you’re playing to win. Put the most offensive players on the ice. At this time, the defencemen are not among that group.

This only works when the right players are used. Drouin isn't a shot threat from the blueline and his skillset doesn't lend itself to playing on the blueline. And also never really played there as far as I know (and it shows).

Not to mention the different skating requirements : Drouin is a very good skater, but he skates like forward, not a D, because he's a forward.

The lone forward on that team I could possibly imagine playing from that spot somewhat competently is Dach. Still has the "skates like a forward" issues but his skillset probably lend itself much better to this. But then you lose him for board play.

 

[Rapala]

5-3 with 2 empty net goal isn't has bad a as the score indicate...
Not winning to a team below us in the standing isn't that big of a deal we are getting closer to where we need to be ±27th also FLA still not at looking like the will make the playoff. We didn't win but hopefully everyone learn something.

That team is the worst defensively by a mile and we can't do better than 2? The game was unwatchable in the first and I stopped watching.

 

[Rapala]

You'd be surprised if you would watch other teams around the league... I'll leave it at that.

Ottawa didn't use it at all against us. One thing I do like is the back is coming out in tandem. What they should be doing is using Guhle to bring out the puck flanked by Suzuki Dach/Caufield. This would not require too many drop passes.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

The F? Without his mental health issues hE would be PPG. He already puts up points every year in the league.. he is an NHL player and knows how to score.

Wuuuut?

Drouin's never been anywhere close to point per game and I doubt he spent his entire career with depression, so it's really disingenuous to try to pretend he would be PPG so far at any point. I've never seen him align a long sequence where his decision making is on another level. Long term bouts with depression are a rollercoaster with highs and lows, so if he had the decision making capacity to be point per game, we would've seen at least half a season of that somewhere, somewhen in his career, but instead what we see is the same constant of erratic decisions, whether producing at 50pts/82games pace or lower, which is the hallmark of players who have a harder time processing the game.

Depression can be debilitating. It makes it hard to do ordinary things. Basically, motivation just isn't there. Anhedonia becomes a constant. All of this makes it a huge obstacle to train at a high level, but by all accounts, JD was and is always training hard. All this to say, I highly doubt depression was a constant throughout his career, whereas erratic decision making has been there at every point, even when he was producing.

 

[peate]

I listened to his post-game speech on L'antichambe, he spoke like he had no troubles at all, not a word on his 2 consecutive game losing f***-ups. All is well in Drou-dou land. What a loser. Only good for the tank.

 

[AlexGretzchenvid]

Wuuuut?

Drouin's never been anywhere close to point per game and I doubt he spent his entire career with depression, so it's really disingenuous to try to pretend he would be PPG so far at any point. I've never seen him align a long sequence where his decision making is on another level. Long term bouts with depression are a rollercoaster with highs and lows, so if he had the decision making capacity to be point per game, we would've seen at least half a season of that somewhere, somewhen in his career, but instead what we see is the same constant of erratic decisions, whether producing at 50pts/82games pace or lower, which is the hallmark of players who have a harder time processing the game.

Depression can be debilitating. It makes it hard to do ordinary things. Basically, motivation just isn't there. Anhedonia becomes a constant. All of this makes it a huge obstacle to train at a high level, but by all accounts, JD was and is always training hard. All this to say, I highly doubt depression was a constant throughout his career, whereas erratic decision making has been there at every point, even when he was producing.

I was trying to say that his decision making is above junior always has been, never said it was Elite. Good points you make but I stand pat on his mental issues being a barrier to realizing his physical potential and his IQ potential.

 

[Lycanthrope]

That was a Meh game, glad CC got his goals but they made Dostal look like Glenn Hall FFS!!!

Been making mediocre goalies look like Venezia candidates for years.

 

[Runner77]

Been making mediocre goalies look like Venezia candidates for years.

Do they have to provide their own gondolas?

 

[Lycanthrope]

Some people just can't think long term.

Well from what I remember, long term has been around a decade or so. Remember “fail for Nail” Yakupov or whatever. Where is he now? If you know how to draft you dont need this tank bullshit. Some of you have been calling for this tank shit for years. Galchenyuk, Kotkaniemi…real superstars.
Marinaro (who’s become a clown) calling for the tank and then going all the way down the line talking about steals in the mid to late first round. How’s Wright working out? Unless we’re talking Gretzky this must have a top pick at the expense of any success is bullshit to me. Ask the Oilers or better yet pay $300 ish to watch a team tank. Ludicrous and will never happen purposefully under Marty’s watch. Don’t have to be dead fawking last to build a hockey team!

 

[cphabs]

Every game literally just comes down to whether Caufield and Suzuki can outscore the entirety of the other team.

Gally, Drouin, Armia and Dadonov combine for over a 20 million cap hit and have 5 goals in total through the first 30 games of the season lol.

That’s awful lmfao

 

[Lycanthrope]

Wuuuut?

Drouin's never been anywhere close to point per game and I doubt he spent his entire career with depression, so it's really disingenuous to try to pretend he would be PPG so far at any point. I've never seen him align a long sequence where his decision making is on another level. Long term bouts with depression are a rollercoaster with highs and lows, so if he had the decision making capacity to be point per game, we would've seen at least half a season of that somewhere, somewhen in his career, but instead what we see is the same constant of erratic decisions, whether producing at 50pts/82games pace or lower, which is the hallmark of players who have a harder time processing the game.

Depression can be debilitating. It makes it hard to do ordinary things. Basically, motivation just isn't there. Anhedonia becomes a constant. All of this makes it a huge obstacle to train at a high level, but by all accounts, JD was and is always training hard. All this to say, I highly doubt depression was a constant throughout his career, whereas erratic decision making has been there at every point, even when he was producing.

Regardless of anything else hockey related, you are exactly correct! Good on you for posting this. Those who have never experienced could no more relate to this than to being blind.

 

[cphabs]

Drouin I don't hate...no way. I actually feel bad for him. The pressure of playing here has simply been too much.

He was an ass clown before coming to us…
His partner, in the trade, is a PPG D with 2 cups at 24 years old. Last year of Drouin’s 6M contract.

 

[The Great Weal]

Flotsam, jetsam … any way you call it, still dead weight.

Armia would clear waivers. What a horrendous contract. Used an expansion slot on him instead of trading for McCann and lost Perry to sign Armia.

 

[The Real Timo]

He was an ass clown before coming to us…
His partner, in the trade, is a PPG D with 2 cups at 24 years old. Last year of Drouin’s 6M contract.

This is so depressing.

 

[bighab]

I'm like 99% sure the reason they're giving Drouin quality minutes is to showcase him & salvage ANY value possible. Same with Armia. Courage, my friends. The bad dream is almost over

 

[cphabs]

Well from what I remember, long term has been around a decade or so. Remember “fail for Nail” Yakupov or whatever. Where is he now? If you know how to draft you dont need this tank bullshit. Some of you have been calling for this tank shit for years. Galchenyuk, Kotkaniemi…real superstars.
Marinaro (who’s become a clown) calling for the tank and then going all the way down the line talking about steals in the mid to late first round. How’s Wright working out? Unless we’re talking Gretzky this must have a top pick at the expense of any success is bullshit to me. Ask the Oilers or better yet pay $300 ish to watch a team tank. Ludicrous and will never happen purposefully under Marty’s watch. Don’t have to be dead fawking last to build a hockey team!

You arent getting anything for Dadonov, Hoffman, Armia, Drouin. Its nonsense, these guys wont raise their values

Gaining a fourth instead of a fifth at the loss of development time isnt worth it

But? Getting rid of the cap hit may in a rebuilding campaign. Even for a low pick.

 

[The Real Timo]

Yeah, considering this is still a tank year, where this hate is coming from is beyond me. I don’t even disagree about Slaf’s usage this season.

I mean, this isn‘t DD we‘re talking about here.

DD was a legend. No doubt about that.

But? Getting rid of the cap hit may in a rebuilding campaign. Even for a low pick.

Yes, but you don't need to showcase them for that.

 

[hvac412]

I don't like pulling the plug on a young player when he's been stellar and giving the dead weight on this team primetime minutes when its totally undeserved, it sends the wrong message.

And will eventually lead you to losing the room,seen this movie before but can't place all the fault on Marty this has Kent written all over it too ! He seems obsessed with getting something for every bad player we're stuck with including some of his garbage to the detriment of player development and it might just cost him the respect his players have for Marty,just my two cents

 

[Habs]

And will eventually lead you to losing the room,seen this movie before but can't place all the fault on Marty this has Kent written all over it too ! He seems obsessed with getting something for every bad player we're stuck with including some of his garbage to the detriment of player development and it might just cost him the respect his players have for Marty,just my two cents

Makes you wonder, who is running the bench because no sane coach has Dads and Armia on the PP or any special teams, or regular ice time... they should be benched and someone called up who is working their ass off in Laval instead of being a paycheck player in the NHL. Armia and Dadanov's goal out put is humiliating and so is their play away from the puck. They are doing nothing to help the team, let them sit. Kent looks like a power tripping little nerd, I wouldn't doubt he's making most of the calls.