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Worst FA Signing of All Time

Worst FA Signing of All Time

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Heatley was bad in Anaheim, but his 1 mil cap hit didn't really hurt the team all that much, and he was buried in the minors after a week and a half. That's a bad signing for sure, but it doesn't stink the worst.

The Ducks signed Bertuzzi to be a first line winger for AndyMac, had to trade AndyMac because of cap reasons (Selanne came back, nobody was going to take Bertuzzi's contract), then he contributed to a first round exit the season after the team won the cup by taking a bunch of penalties, then he was bought out. The Ducks paid the man $4,000,000 to be forced to trade the center he was supposed to play with.

The Mighty Duck Man said:
They wouldn't have matched Penner no matter what. And the rest is quite a bit hindsighty, especially the part about repeating.

I don't think Bert was bad because of anything to do with Andy Mac, it just wasn't a good signing and he had to be bought out a year later. Schneider was at least good in his year here.
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The Schneider signing was fine. It contributed to the Ducks' cap boondogle, but he was brought in because Nieds was probably going to retire. Nieds coming back caused the cap issue and made Schneider redundant, but the signing made sense and he filled his role well.
 
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Anaheim4ever said:
Bertuzzi and Schneider led to Macdonald being a cap casualty when they eventually have to sign Selanne and Niedermayer. There was no need to sign Bertuzzi and Schneider, no one really goes back to back champions anymore, it had been nearly 20 years when the Pens went back to back in 2016 and 17. The Ducks were gonna have a cup hangover no matter what, no need to waste money on those 2 guys.

They could have even been able to match the Penner offer sheet had they not signed Bert and Schneider as well, Penner was good with the Oilers but keeping ur 2C in Andy Mac is more important than Penner.

A top 9 of
Kunitz/Getzlaf/Perry
RobNieds/AndyMac/Selanne
Moen/Pahlsson/Marchant

Probably goes to the conference finals in 08 even with moving Kunitz to line 1 and Rob to line 2 due to Penner being plucked by Edmonton as that saves cap space.

Then another year later when Bobby Ryan has his breakout:
Bobby/Getzlaf/Perry
Kunitz/Macdonald/Selanne
Is such a great top 6 that probably carries them over Detroit in 09 because well Andy Mac is superior to who their 2C was in 09 playoffs.

Losing Andy Mac probably cost 1 finals appearance and possibly the team's 2nd cup win in 09.
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no issue with schneider. he was brought in in case niedermayer stayed retired and he had a good season anyways

ADHB said:
Nick Boynton, Andreas Lilja, etc.
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don't forget ducks legend paul mara
 
Stoner for me. Hated that signing at any price and for any reason.
 
Didn’t Stoner at least have a decent series against (Winnipeg I think?) Just with that in mind I won’t say he was the worst, however he was pretty brutal at times.
 
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The Mighty Duck Man said:
Again, very hindsighty. It forgets just how serious about retirement Selanne and Niedermayer were, Burke took a big risk in somewhat waiting for them at all. Also forgets a good bit else about that year.
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While I agree that its hindsighty, Burke didn't really wait at all. Considering we had Ryan in the minors you probably can move forward without Burtuzzi. Scheinder honestly played well here.
 
DavidBL said:
While I agree that its hindsighty, Burke didn't really wait at all. Considering we had Ryan in the minors you probably can move forward without Burtuzzi. Scheinder honestly played well here.
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Burke had the connection with Bertuzzi from Vancouver so he jumped all over that.
 
Was torn on the bertuzi and souray signings. Love how someone actually thought the Heatley signing was the worst
 
fedorov was disappointing as a duck but like i said, everyone on that 03-04 team had a down year

still put up 60+ pts. plus, signing him resulted in beauch at the end
 
DavidBL said:
While I agree that its hindsighty, Burke didn't really wait at all. Considering we had Ryan in the minors you probably can move forward without Burtuzzi. Scheinder honestly played well here.
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He didn't wait to replace them because he couldn't. They weren't contemplating retirement, both basically did and Burke begged them not to file anything.

That team was unreal so I don't have a ton of complaints either way. People only remember a weird first round series but they were close to unbeatable with Scotty and Teemu in the lineup.
 
JabbaJabba said:
Steve Eminger.

I don't get the hate Stoner is getting. He was overpaid, that is true but he was very steady and dependable bottom pairing guy who knew his limitations. That Stoner-Vatanen pairing gave the most consistent level of play. Easily better signing than Sutton, Allen, Shattenkirk etc.
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Contract Length matters too. Sure, Sutton was a pylon when he was here but got way less in salary and term. I agree the the Allen contract is close (along with bertuzzi). But Shattenkirk? Proof that people on this board are way too reactionary, he's barely played 20 games for us.
 
hermes20 said:
Contract Length matters too. Sure, Sutton was a pylon when he was here but got way less in salary and term. I agree the the Allen contract is close (along with bertuzzi). But Shattenkirk? Proof that people on this board are way too reactionary, he's barely played 20 games for us.
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Shattenkirk is an option in this poll and based on his performance so far, he belongs there. How long should we wait until we can make our opinion on him? It's not outrageous to say that he has been disappointing and not worth the money so far.
 
The Mighty Duck Man said:
He didn't wait to replace them because he couldn't. They weren't contemplating retirement, both basically did and Burke begged them not to file anything.

That team was unreal so I don't have a ton of complaints either way. People only remember a weird first round series but they were close to unbeatable with Scotty and Teemu in the lineup.
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20-5-1 after Teemu came back, 11-1 right out of the gate if I remember right.
 
I will give an honorable mention to Bryan Allen. To put into perspective just how bad he was, I have a Bryan Allen t-shirt I bought at the Ducks store for only $5. You can’t buy any shirt of an active player at the Honda Center for $5. I was at a Ducks/Kings playoff game and saw a whole rack of them. It was a pity purchase.

Allen was the perfect blend of a big man who could not hit, fight, score, or skate. His falling down against a rush by the King’s summed it up.

John
 
70sSanO said:
I will give an honorable mention to Bryan Allen. To put into perspective just how bad he was, I have a Bryan Allen t-shirt I bought at the Ducks store for only $5. You can’t buy any shirt of an active player at the Honda Center for $5. I was at a Ducks/Kings playoff game and saw a whole rack of them. It was a pity purchase.

Allen was the perfect blend of a big man who could not hit, fight, score, or skate. His falling down against a rush by the King’s summed it up.

John
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He was the quintessential pylon
 
Stoner in 2nd place in this thread is quite shocking to me.

He at least played for a decent amount of time here and was okay. Souray was On IR for over 80% of his contract
 
Shattenkirk’s contract makes it the worst signing. Tampa Bay had 2 D-men whose contracts had been terminated by other teams; Shattenkirk and Bogosian. These two were so bad that former teams had to buy them out. Neither were re-signed by Tampa Bay.

They had both proved that they had lost enough skills that their only future signings would be short term in the $1M range. Any GM who couldn’t see the future is a complete idiot. Even with Bieksa there was a track record and a reason to have some hope.

But Bob signed Shattenkirk to 3 years and the final year he gets almost $5M. If you hate Shattenkirk now just wait a couple more years.

Think about all the young D-men we have moved out and none of them were as bad as Shattenkirk. That $4.95M is really going to hurt.

John
 
70sSanO said:
Shattenkirk’s contract makes it the worst signing. Tampa Bay had 2 D-men whose contracts had been terminated by other teams; Shattenkirk and Bogosian. These two were so bad that former teams had to buy them out. Neither were re-signed by Tampa Bay.

They had both proved that they had lost enough skills that their only future signings would be short term in the $1M range. Any GM who couldn’t see the future is a complete idiot. Even with Bieksa there was a track record and a reason to have some hope.

But Bob signed Shattenkirk to 3 years and the final year he gets almost $5M. If you hate Shattenkirk now just wait a couple more years.

Think about all the young D-men we have moved out and none of them were as bad as Shattenkirk. That $4.95M is really going to hurt.

John
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How is it going to hurt.
 
For me its no question Burtuzzi. He was injured the year before. Signed for good term and money. Had to be bought out and forced the move of our cup winning 1c. 4 still had 4 of 6 top forwards going into 2008 and Ryan was in the minors. If he was going to spend that much he should have matched Penners deal. At least he had known chemistry was much younger and didn't have the history if Burtuzzi.
 
70sSanO said:
Shattenkirk’s contract makes it the worst signing. Tampa Bay had 2 D-men whose contracts had been terminated by other teams; Shattenkirk and Bogosian. These two were so bad that former teams had to buy them out. Neither were re-signed by Tampa Bay.

They had both proved that they had lost enough skills that their only future signings would be short term in the $1M range. Any GM who couldn’t see the future is a complete idiot. Even with Bieksa there was a track record and a reason to have some hope.

But Bob signed Shattenkirk to 3 years and the final year he gets almost $5M. If you hate Shattenkirk now just wait a couple more years.

Think about all the young D-men we have moved out and none of them were as bad as Shattenkirk. That $4.95M is really going to hurt.

John
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That's not why either team bought them out and you're clueless if you're implying Tampa didn't want Shattenkirk back.
 
It was a trade-and-sign type situation and not UFA, but man Carl Hagelin was terrible. IMO the only reason why he's not more infamous among Ducks fans is because he played here for like 3-4 months, and because we lucked out getting away from him with no long-term cap repercussions. In a funny way actually, most of the worst personnel decisions made in recent times are somehow related to trades.

For the purposes of this thread, I'd say (in no particular order) Shattenkirk, Bertuzzi and Stoner are the worst UFA contracts handed out. Souray gets a HM - he actually played OK, but a 3-year deal (2 years on IR) to an injury prone 36-year-old is just too much.

Bryan Allen needs to be on the list. 3 years, $3.5 million to a barely NHL quality defenseman. Allen and Stoner in our roster at the same time, during a time when the cap was lower and we were trying to compete with an internal cap..? :help:
 
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AngelDuck said:
Stoner in 2nd place in this thread is quite shocking to me.

He at least played for a decent amount of time here and was okay. Souray was On IR for over 80% of his contract
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Stoners contract term was completely unjustifiable though. 4 years at 3.5 for a number 6 dman was ridiculous, especially when we already had Allen who was the exact same player on the roster with only a year left.
 
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