Pre-Game Talk: World cup of hockey 2016 thread

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So they don't take Yandle and/or Shattenkirk presumably because they're not good enough defensively.... Then you look at the fact that they can't score and what just happened to Niskanen and shake your head.
 

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Like everyone, hated the Abdelkater pick, but I've liked his presence, especially in this game.

U.S. is reaping what it's sown. From the Torts+Sully bench, to Backes, Johnsons, etc. This game could use A LOT more Tyler Johnson.

Agreed!
 

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Yandle did so much in the NYR playoff run so I'm sure he really would've turned this game around :sarcasm:
 

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I don't entirely even understand that concept. How does building a team by selecting worse players than other players make you more likely to beat the best team?
 

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T. Johnson for Abdelkader.

Shattenkirk for J. Johnson

Yandle for E. Johnson

Play Schneider

Would make a world of difference. But no, we have to "build a team to beat Canada". Yeah, that worked out well.

Yeah. Also, while Canada has a wealth that can afford to be depleted in the NA roster, the U.S. really needs some of those players. Gaudreau, Saad, Jones, Larkin, GHOST all would be Huge upgrades. Not to mention Eichel or Matthews.

Imagine Finland w/o their U-23 players, and they're already eliminated.
 

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I don't entirely even understand that concept. How does building a team by selecting worse players than other players make you more likely to beat the best team?

If you value toughness enough, eventually it does.
 

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PP1:

Kane - T. Johnson - Kessel
Shattenkirk - Yandle

No. No. Not that.

You mark up a goal against on the stat sheet before even thinking about putting this line on the ice?

Not one player there can play a lick of defence.
 

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Yeah. Also, while Canada has a wealth that can afford to be depleted in the NA roster, the U.S. really needs some of those players. Gaudreau, Saad, Jones, GHOST all would be Huge upgrades. Not to mention Eichel or Matthews.

Imagine Finland w/o their U-23 players, and they're already eliminated.

Right, except we'll be picking Orpik, Backes, Dubinsky, Kesler, Abdelkader all over those guys, because USA Hockey is broken.
 

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You mark up a goal against on the stat sheet before even thinking about putting this line on the ice?

Not one player there can play a lick of defence.

You don't need to play defense when you always have the puck. But yeah, not like the score right now is 4-1. Look at all the defensive work these "gritty" "responsible" "warriors" are doing.
 

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still loling at Jack Johnson. Talk about guy who shows up an hour late to the hockey pool draft and picks Jack Johnson after Karlsson is gone.
 

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You don't need to play defense when you always have the puck. But yeah, not like the score right now is 4-1. Look at all the defensive work these "gritty" "responsible" "warriors" are doing.

yeah! Why did Canada not take Kunitz??? THEY NEED HIM! CROSBY NEEDS HIM!
 

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You don't need to play defense when you always have the puck. But yeah, not like the score right now is 4-1. Look at all the defensive work these "gritty" "responsible" "warriors" are doing.

Right! What was I thinking? Apparently defence isn't apart of hockey anymore because every team with x= stat sheet player will always have the puck 100% of the time. Got it..
 

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You don't need to play defense when you always have the puck. But yeah, not like the score right now is 4-1. Look at all the defensive work these "gritty" "responsible" "warriors" are doing.

Except, you know, that's not actually a thing. I dislike the team they assembled, but assertions like that are just as bad.
 

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Right! What was I thinking? Apparently defence isn't apart of hockey anymore because every team with x= stat sheet player will always have the puck 100% of the time. Got it..

Or how about this, why lose 5-1 when you could lose 5-4?
 

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Don't see why it's so hard to understand that maybe adding a player like Yandle moves you from having the puck 51% of the time to like 53% of the time. Obviously nobody is implying it's 100% and you NEVER play defense...but you "defend" less and yes those two percentage points do make a pretty big difference. It is obviously hyperbole when someone says "then you don't play defense." implying you play defense significantly less.
 

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I'm not sure there was a better pick than Erik Johnson. Byfuglien and Jack Johnson should not have been taken. Justin Faulk not on this team is absurd.

Again, I'm okay with Dubinsky. Abdelkader? Backes? Kesler? These guys don't have the skill anymore to play the puck possession style you need. Do you want to be a hard nosed North-South team? Bring Chris Kreider. Phil Kessel. Boone Jenner. Kyle Okposo.
 

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Or how about this, why lose 5-1 when you could lose 5-4?

Well since your boy doesn't know how to shoot the puck (or do much else) Who's going to score those goals while he's busy backing up?

My #1 game plan against him is get in his face and he backs up like a little b**ch every time..

#NoD :)
 
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