Post-Game Talk: Woll Wills Leafs over Oilers | Leafs Win 4-3

[Rare Jewel]

I wasn't just talking about the fans lol

Well, yeah, on a sociopolitical front,,. But let's not go there.

 

[13pacheco31]

Well, yeah, on a sociopolitical front,,. But let's not go there.

I mean, yeah sure, we don't really have to go there. I'm just pointing out that it's all kind of interconnected

 

[Stoneman89]

Oilers fan in peace. Congrats on the win, you guys totally deserved it, the better team for sure. Leaf big guns came to play, Oilers stars looked disintersted. My Oilers need to make some changes for sure to have any chance at advancing in the playoffs. Starting with a goalie and then a couple dmen and finally a couple forwards. A big list for sure, and not a lot of assets or cap room. Oilers have an absolutely horrific record this year against the top teams.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Oilers fan in peace. Congrats on the win, you guys totally deserved it, the better team for sure. Leaf big guns came to play, Oilers stars looked disintersted. My Oilers need to make some changes for sure to have any chance at advancing in the playoffs. Starting with a goalie and then a couple dmen and finally a couple forwards. A big list for sure, and not a lot of assets or cap room. Oilers have an absolutely horrific record this year against the top teams.

Hello, welcome. I have to stop you there, though.

We had a pretty good start, but the Leafs were the 2nd best for most of the game and got saved by Woll and agent Klingberg in the end.

 

[13pacheco31]

Oilers fan in peace. Congrats on the win, you guys totally deserved it, the better team for sure. Leaf big guns came to play, Oilers stars looked disintersted. My Oilers need to make some changes for sure to have any chance at advancing in the playoffs. Starting with a goalie and then a couple dmen and finally a couple forwards. A big list for sure, and not a lot of assets or cap room. Oilers have an absolutely horrific record this year against the top teams.

We definitely did not deserve to win. The last 40 minutes was all oilers, the difference was goaltending

 

[MSZ]

Oilers fan in peace. Congrats on the win, you guys totally deserved it, the better team for sure. Leaf big guns came to play, Oilers stars looked disintersted. My Oilers need to make some changes for sure to have any chance at advancing in the playoffs. Starting with a goalie and then a couple dmen and finally a couple forwards. A big list for sure, and not a lot of assets or cap room. Oilers have an absolutely horrific record this year against the top teams.

Nah, Edmonton was clearly better last night. And unlike Toronto they should be able to go far in the playoffs as they have been battle tested for several years now.

 

[ACC1224]

Oilers fan in peace. Congrats on the win, you guys totally deserved it, the better team for sure. Leaf big guns came to play, Oilers stars looked disintersted. My Oilers need to make some changes for sure to have any chance at advancing in the playoffs. Starting with a goalie and then a couple dmen and finally a couple forwards. A big list for sure, and not a lot of assets or cap room. Oilers have an absolutely horrific record this year against the top teams.

Thanks Zeke

 

[Stephen]

Oilers fan in peace. Congrats on the win, you guys totally deserved it, the better team for sure. Leaf big guns came to play, Oilers stars looked disintersted. My Oilers need to make some changes for sure to have any chance at advancing in the playoffs. Starting with a goalie and then a couple dmen and finally a couple forwards. A big list for sure, and not a lot of assets or cap room. Oilers have an absolutely horrific record this year against the top teams.

So basically both fanbases just hate their teams and can only see negatives. Makes sense in a lot of ways.

 

[Nineteen67]

One question, is offsides in the rulebook?

Just because a linesman misses a call doesn't mean one team should benefit and the other be disadvantaged.

It is, as is the ability to challenge. You can’t change that now, but removing the ability to challenge the offside should be done because it negatively impacts games, like it did last night.

 

[Stoneman89]

So basically both fanbases just hate their teams and can only see negatives. Makes sense in a lot of ways.

Real intelligent interpretation. But carry on.

We definitely did not deserve to win. The last 40 minutes was all oilers, the difference was goaltending

Last I looked, a goaltender is part of a team. And they have had a tendency to make a lot of goalies look like Vezina contenders this year.

 

[Nineteen67]

It's the one rule that makes sense and isn't at the mercy of "judgement". There's a consistency in ruling offsides. Consistency is the one thing that all fans cry about and then we have a rule that is applied equally in all situations for and against all teams, some people want to see it go away. Edmonton fans crying about that rule last night is crazy and hypocritical. That call goes their way and they wouldn't utter a word about how unfair it is.

It's the most fair and sane rule the NHL has. Goaltender interference? That's all over the place. DoPS? yeah we all know how bullshit that is - but offsides - it's fair, sometimes ya hate it sometimes ya love it - but it's almost 100% consistent - something that can't be said about most rules in the NHL

Would anyone be talking about the offside if there was no challenge rule? I highly doubt it because no one would even know it happened. What happens with this rule in place is a bunch of guys in a room watch every zone entry and determine whether to challenge or not. It results in needless delays and more importantly takes away from the guys on the ice.

If an inch doesn't matter in a game, why would a player risk being offside to gain that inch. The criticism of a close offside should be towards the player who was offside. Not the rulebook. If only he held up one extra second to be safe because one extra second doesn't matter anyways, is what I'm hearing here.

There are two linesmen, can they not make the call and we deal with what their eyes see? They don’t miss very many egregious calls.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Would anyone be talking about the offside if there was no challenge rule?

Yes. Even more.

I highly doubt it because no one would even know it happened.

You do know that like... games are recorded on video, right?

It results in needless delays and more importantly takes away from the guys on the ice.

Getting things right isn't needless, and it doesn't hurt anybody on the ice.

 

[Nineteen67]

I wasn't just talking about the fans lol


I agree that the offside was pretty inconsequential but a line is drawn and to ignore it because of an inch is a slippery slope. Could be worse, look at some of the offside calls I'm soccer

Not ignoring offsides just the ability to challenge them.

 

[Smif]

Would anyone be talking about the offside if there was no challenge rule? I highly doubt it because no one would even know it happened. What happens with this rule in place is a bunch of guys in a room watch every zone entry and determine whether to challenge or not. It results in needless delays and more importantly takes away from the guys on the ice.

I thought it was offside immediately when I saw it in real time and I was surprised it was as close to not being offside as it was.

If a goal happens and it was seen as offside but not called it's way worse than the correct call being made and a goal coming back.

In other words, we would be talking about it non-stop if it was offside and the play carried on and a goal scored, 100%.

 

[Nineteen67]

I thought it was offside immediately when I saw it in real time and I was surprised it was as close to not being offside as it was.

If a goal happens and it was seen as offside but not called it's way worse than the correct call being made and a goal coming back.

In other words, we would be talking about it non-stop if it was offside and the play carried on and a goal scored, 100%.

Had Edmonton won, we’d be talking about the great comeback and not a missed offside by an inch.

 

[Stephen]

Real intelligent interpretation. But carry on.

Excuse me?

 

[Smif]

Had Edmonton won, we’d be talking about the great comeback and not a missed offside by an inch.

You new here, like first day?

 

[Aashir]

Oilers fan in peace. Congrats on the win, you guys totally deserved it, the better team for sure. Leaf big guns came to play, Oilers stars looked disintersted. My Oilers need to make some changes for sure to have any chance at advancing in the playoffs. Starting with a goalie and then a couple dmen and finally a couple forwards. A big list for sure, and not a lot of assets or cap room. Oilers have an absolutely horrific record this year against the top teams.

Not too sure if this is a reverse trolljob or not but,

you guys need to grab vejmelka/gibson/the guy off the road who played beer league at some point and a 2RHD and should be more or less set.

swap the goalies and this game is like 6-1 or 7-2 oilers

 

[LeafEgo]

Hockey was forged through the war era, it's beauty rooted in the balance of raw physicality and controlled aggression, facilitated by honor and code. Its a sport that rewards grit and determination, where skill and toughness coexist. Like all great art forms it will eventually be fixed by newer generations until it's broken, losing the very essence that makes it great.

You can get punched in the face with no penalty.

Ain't nobody got time for whining about a 5mm offside 30 seconds ago. It was fine the way it used to be.

 

[Stoneman89]

Not too sure if this is a reverse trolljob or not but,

you guys need to grab vejmelka/gibson/the guy off the road who played beer league at some point and a 2RHD and should be more or less set.

swap the goalies and this game is like 6-1 or 7-2 oilers

No trolling, sorry. Lots of talk around those guys for sure, but not sure of the price and the ability to fit them in with limited cap space, but we'll see. No question, goaltending is the number one issue for the team, and the inability to generate goals despite controlling play and number of shots taken is concerning.

Excuse me?

Where did I ever say I hate my team and only see negatives?

 

[Stephen]

Where did I ever say I hate my team and only see negatives?

The point I’m making is our fanbases tend to be overly critical of our teams and share that in common, but if you’re going to be rude about it I don’t think we need to chat further.

 

[Mr_Fun]

Its PURE STUPIDITY that you need to do frame by frame video analysis to figure out if a player is 'offside' or not. If that's the level you need to go to then its pretty obvious that the player was more than close enough to the line that you can't tell if they were offside or not in real time.

This is what officials do all the time in every game and they let it go unless its an obvious offside because who wants to stop the game to check if every close offside is really an offside? No one ever cares because no goal is scored and they just keep playing. This shouldn't be any different just because a goal is scored.

I tend to agree here. Also there seems to be an element of -- damned if you do damned if you don't, in play here. People won't like getting a goal called back by video replay over a fraction of an inch, just as much as they won't like a goal being scored on them that without the use of in game video replay, was later deemed (like between periods or after the game) to be a fraction of an inch offside. I say just scrap this video replay stuff. Sure, there'll be a the odd one they miss that was egregious, but most of the time it will be mere fractions of an inch.