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Some of you jump on your own players too quickly
He was the reason why we got to game 7 last year

He deserves that extension, he deserves get the benefit of the doubt

This is a great opportunity to find out what Stolarz and Hiddelby has. Win win as far as I am concerned. If he comes back, and keeps playing well, it's his net.

If he doesn't, now we know what we have in our store. As opposed to find out later in the season and not have enough time to do anything
 
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fahad203 said:
He deserves that extension, he deserves get the benefit of the doubt
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He has played a total of 36 games in the NHL regular season, and 7 playoff games. I'm not sure that should get you an $11M contract when there is history of injuries, he played 6 years for the Marlies, and there was not a single season without injury.

There should have been no rush to sign him when he was still under contract this year. Could have just as easily be done during the season.

I'm not saying he's not a capable goalie, when on ice he has proven it. But he needs to be available to play.
 
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Hope he's ready for the back to backs next week. I hope when he does come back it's not like last year where he struggled to regain his form coming back from injury.
 
Injuries are unpredictable. Everyone likes to think they can predict them, “this guy is made of glass,” “this guy is an Ironman,” but it’s easy to say this with hindsight, while we’re often wrong looking forward. The same logic writing off Woll today would’ve written off early-career Patrice Bergeron, mid-career Crosby, or Jeff Skinner a few years ago.

Woll’s a very good goalie, hopefully he can get healthy. In the meantime we’ve got Stolarz and Hildeby, which I’m actually fine with as a stopgap tandem.

Do I know for a fact that Woll will get healthy? Of course not. But neither do the haters know that he’ll stay perpetually injured. Injuries are unpredictable, full stop.
 
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Injuries are unpredictable. Everyone likes to think they can predict them, “this guy is made of glass,” “this guy is an Ironman,” but it’s easy to say this with hindsight, while we’re often wrong looking forward. The same logic writing off Woll today would’ve written off early-career Patrice Bergeron, mid-career Crosby, or Jeff Skinner a few years ago.

Woll’s a very good goalie, hopefully he can get healthy. In the meantime we’ve got Stolarz and Hildeby, which I’m actually fine with as a stopgap tandem.

Do I know for a fact that Woll will get healthy? Of course not. But neither do the haters know that he’ll stay perpetually injured. Injuries are unpredictable, full stop.
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There’s a difference between getting injured from repeat concussion-causing headshots vs getting injured in practice or on routine plays with minimal external influence. If someone ran him in a game and concussed him a few times, sure you get him some bigger defense and keep the crease clear. You can’t do anything to protect the guy from himself.
 
ponder said:
Injuries are unpredictable.
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Some players are alot more injury prone.

Some goalies are essentially broken but still have contracts (Murray).

Goalie injuries are a MASSIVE problem.

It's not that common that a chronically injured goalie, gets healthy and is an Ironman.
 
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TSN Hockey Insiders Darren Dreger, Pierre LeBrun and Chris Johnston discuss the Leafs' approach to Joseph Woll, the Oilers' slow start, Flames' GM Craig Conroy's plan for this season, L.A. likely hosting the draft and Kings GM Rob Blake's expiring contract.
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What is the current situation with Toronto Maple Leafs goaltender Joseph Woll?

Chris Johnston: There were certainly some alarm bells when Woll appeared briefly on the ice in Toronto on Tuesday, among social media and the reporters covering the team, but behind the scenes all is calm.

The feeling is that Woll is progressing quite well in his return. I think the Leafs are looking at the schedule right now, just two games on the schedule this week, and they just want to be smart. They want to make sure he gets back to 100 per cent, not wanting to rush him. I think you’ll see him up the workload on the ice in the upcoming days. Also in the coming days, he will go through some testing so the Leafs will have a better idea of exactly when he’s due to return.

The feeling now is that this is not long-term. The Leafs have some time and they’re using it.
 
I'm pretty sure he will be the clear number one by early November, but there is also a tremendous amount of quality depth at the position.
 
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NHL Buzz: Woll making 'very good' progress for Maple Leafs | NHL.com

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Toronto Maple Leafs

Joseph Woll skated for the fourth consecutive day at Maple Leafs practice Thursday while he continues to recover from a lower-body injury.

The goalie went through a series of agility drills and faced shots from skills coaches.

"(He's making) very good (progress)," Toronto coach Craig Berube said. "He's doing well. Keep him going here. We will see where he's at tomorrow."

Berube said he is unsure if Woll, who has missed each of Toronto's first four games, will be a full participant at practice Friday for the first time since Oct. 8.

"We will see how today goes and then we will make a decision on it," Berube said. "We are not going to rush him."

Toronto next hosts the New York Rangers on Saturday (7 p.m. ET; CBC, SNO, SNW, MSG, NHLN).
 
As much as I like Woll this injury thing is getting real old real fast.

He missed game seven of the playoffs. Yes I am aware they only made it that far because of him. But they also might have made it to the second round if he was available.

Then he missed the season opener.

Another loss for the team. A game they might have won if Woll had played. The most important position in the sport and the Leafs starter is an unproven injury prone technically still a rookie goaltender.

Unproven rookie because always too injured to amass enough games to reach the threshold.

At some point it stops being a matter of ability and becomes a matter of availability, period. Giving Woll a multi-year multi-million dollar contract was a risky bit of business that has already shown why it was such a gamble. Three years with this guy on and off the IR the whole time isn't gonna help this team win a cup.

Or win anything else for that matter.
 
HamiltonNHL said:
Some players are alot more injury prone.

Some goalies are essentially broken but still have contracts (Murray).

Goalie injuries are a MASSIVE problem.

It's not that common that a chronically injured goalie, gets healthy and is an Ironman.
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He has tightness... what does that even mean? I almost feel like this guy would miss the SCF G7 for irregular bowel movement or mild constipation.

Thinking give him a bit of a run and try and move on.
 
thewave said:
He has tightness... what does that even mean? I almost feel like this guy would miss the SCF G7 for irregular bowel movement or mild constipation.

Thinking give him a bit of a run and try and move on.
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It means he is soft and unwilling to play thu the normal aches and pain of being a professional NHL player.
 
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LeafalCrusader said:
Hope he's ready for the back to backs next week. I hope when he does come back it's not like last year where he struggled to regain his form coming back from injury.
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This is one of my problems with the Woll equation - "if he can stay healthy", apparently the Leafs have a legit number 1?

Do they? The sample size is so small, and his regular season play last season was... not good? At a time when Samsonov did his very best to hand the net over to Woll, Woll couldn't take it.
 
Berube says Woll could be ready for a game next week, maybe, possibly.
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    • Joseph Woll Declines To Discuss How Injury Occurred And When We Could See Him Back In The Maple Leafs' Lineup - The Hockey News

    Joseph Woll took to the ice on Friday for his first full practice with the Toronto Maple Leafs since the day before the team's season opener in Montreal.

    The goaltender has been on injured reserve since last Wednesday with what he said was "a little bit of groin tightness." Woll admitted that he believes he picked up the injury in the Maple Leafs' final practice before the regular season.

    "It was right around that time. I wasn't good enough to go, so just been focused on getting back," Woll said on Friday.

    During a practice earlier in training camp on Oct. 3, the goaltender cut across to make a save and looked to be in some pain. There were questions about whether the groin tightness came from that, but when Woll was asked about a firm timeline, he declined to get into specifics.

    "Truthfully, I don't want to get too much more into it, if that's okay," Woll said. "I'm just focused on getting better now."

    Although he didn't want to discuss how and when the injury occurred, Woll confessed that there was frustration after it happened.

    "Anytime you get injured, whether a big injury, small injury, I think there is that kind of initial emotion. A little bit of frustration, a little bit of disappointment, and all those things,"

    "I think you let that come for a bit and then you focus on what you can control and what you can do, so since then, I've just been focused on doing everything I can possibly do to get back to 100 percent as soon as I can and help this team."

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    When asked on Friday, Maple Leafs head coach Craig Berube didn't give a firm timeline. However, it's safe to assume Woll could suit up for a game at some point next week.

    "Sooner than later, I would think. But you take it day by day still," Toronto's head coach said. "I think it's important here after practice just to see where he's at. I haven't talked to him yet, so we'll figure it out."
     
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    They should.
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    to EDM ?


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