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Prospect Info: With the 9th Overall Pick the New York Rangers Select Vitali Kravtsov

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I bet more posters will come, and without reading any info posted by those more familiar with KHL and Traktor specifically, will be suggesting that somehow there is concern over Kravtsov's playing time with Traktor.

One additional point I made before: it's at BEST 50/50 proposition at this point that Kravtsov will participate in this year's WJC, similar to how it's highly unlikely that Dahlin and Svetch will go because they will be with Buffalo and Caroline, respectively.
 
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krav stays one more season in the K. plays alot and develops further. gets stronger and gets more toi.

he comes over next summer, trains and prepares for camp.

he earns a spot along side his fellow russians like Buch and hopefully shesty and PANARIN.

speed, talent, youth and value.

the future isnt too distant.
 
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kovazub94 said:
I bet more posters will come, and without reading any info posted by those more familiar with KHL and Traktor specifically, will be suggesting that somehow there is concern over Kravtsov's playing time with Traktor.

One additional point I made before: it's at BEST 50/50 proposition at this point that Kravtsov will participate in this year's WJC, similar to how it's highly unlikely that Dahlin and Svetch will go because they will be with Buffalo and Caroline, respectively.
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Admittedly, that was one of my concerns prior to the announcement that he’d be going back. But after reading through this thread and seeing he got a raise on his contract, I’m comfortable with their decision. I have to think that Gorton and the rest of the front office did their due diligence and spoke with Traktor about the entire situation, prior to agreeing to let Kravtsov finish his contract.
 
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MarkMessyay11 said:
Admittedly, that was one of my concerns prior to the announcement that he’d be going back. But after reading through this thread and seeing he got a raise on his contract, I’m comfortable with their decision. I have to think that Gorton and the rest of the front office did their due diligence and spoke with Traktor about the entire situation, prior to agreeing to let Kravtsov finish his contract.
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The Rangers really had no control to “let” him stay there.
 
Tawnos said:
The Rangers really had no control to “let” him stay there.
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Forgive my misstatement. I just saw the rumor that the team was going to file a greivance if Kravtsov bought out his last year. Either way, I’m sure they have had some dialogue with Traktor about the situation.
 
MarkMessyay11 said:
How so?
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They are millionaire professional athletes living in the 21st century. The bonding experiences and ease of learning due to being in a home country are very antiquated.

Traveling from Moscow to NYC for a healthy in shape millionaire who already plays in a pro league and would have MSG and NYCs finest opportunities wouldn't exactly experience culture shock.
 
ReggieDunlop68 said:
They are millionaire professional athletes living in the 21st century. The bonding experiences and ease of learning due to being in a home country are very antiquated.

Traveling from Moscow to NYC for a healthy in shape millionaire who already plays in a pro league and would have MSG and NYCs finest opportunities wouldn't exactly experience culture shock.
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Haha alright...so because it's 2018 and not 1896, personal development and bonding doesn't exist any more? Got it...and I'm the one that's out of touch.

I'm not saying these guys are going to be brothers in arms, after traveling on a rickety ship, in treacherous seas, together for 2 months to get here. But it will make the transition a lot easier to have some semblance of familiarity and comfort, knowing there's 2 other guys, around your age, from the same country, doing the exact same thing.

I'm not really sure what your issue with that is, aside from the fact that you just enjoy stirring the pot.
 
kovazub94 said:
One additional point I made before: it's at BEST 50/50 proposition at this point that Kravtsov will participate in this year's WJC, similar to how it's highly unlikely that Dahlin and Svetch will go because they will be with Buffalo and Caroline, respectively.
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If he's a go to guy for his KHL team then yeah I could see them keeping him home rather than letting him go to the WJC. If you're a major part of your pro team then I don't see any reason to go to the WJC
 
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If he's a go to guy for his KHL team then yeah I could see them keeping him home rather than letting him go to the WJC. If you're a major part of your pro team then I don't see any reason to go to the WJC
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Exactly. He's top 6 forward for Traktor to start the season.
 
The Crypto Guy said:
That is far from a sure thing. We'll see when the season starts.
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He ended the season in the top-6, got a renewed contract with a higher salary and the team hasn't acquired any additional forwards who are definitely better than him. Most acquisitions are there to replace others who were on their way out.
 
This is the right thing to do. Many high profile young Russians have been ruined going to the AHL too early. Stay and Russia and gain confidence. Come over next year with rykov and shesterkin
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
He ended the season in the top-6, got a renewed contract with a higher salary and the team hasn't acquired any additional forwards who are definitely better than him. Most acquisitions are there to replace others who were on their way out.
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Oh don't get me wrong, I absolutely believe he should and will...but with the KHL and young players i've learned it's just never a sure thing till I see it, or this case see him playing in a top 6 role.

I am glad that they haven't acquired any players better than him, I didn't know that.
 
The Crypto Guy said:
Oh don't get me wrong, I absolutely believe he should and will...but with the KHL and young players i've learned it's just never a sure thing till I see it, or this case see him playing in a top 6 role.

I am glad that they haven't acquired any players better than him, I didn't know that.
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Traktor is a smaller team, with a lower budget. Kuznetsov played 4 years for them after being drafted. I feel they are a good team to develop young kids, unlike SKA, MMG, CSKA because they have so much money to spend anyway, they go after the best players each year.
 
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Oh don't get me wrong, I absolutely believe he should and will...but with the KHL and young players i've learned it's just never a sure thing till I see it, or this case see him playing in a top 6 role.

I am glad that they haven't acquired any players better than him, I didn't know that.
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You've been saying it since Kravtsov was drafted and a question of where he plays next season come up. Enough time to do a little basic research / investigation instead of keep putting out post after post with this generic concern, totally baseless as it relates to Traktor and Kravtsov specifically.
 
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kovazub94 said:
You've been saying it since Kravtsov was drafted and a question of where he plays next season come up. Enough time to do a little basic research / investigation instead of keep putting out post after post with this generic concern, totally baseless as it relates to Traktor and Kravtsov specifically.
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:laugh: It's about as baseless and speculative as you assuming hes on the 2nd line. But please, do pull out your crystal ball and let me know who wins the cup next year while you're telling everyone what line he will be on.


But i'd love to see your research and proof that he will be in the top 6. I'll be waiting.
 
kovazub94 said:
You're the one that keeps bringing it up.

So please tell me what's Traktor's top 6 or top 9 should be coming into the season that make Kravtsov being a part of top6 a "far from a sure thing"? I will wait.
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You’re wasting your time. There’s not a snowballs chance in hell Flyline could even name 6 players on Traktor without looking up the roster, let alone name the players that could potentially play over Krav.
 
MarkMessyay11 said:
Haha alright...so because it's 2018 and not 1896, personal development and bonding doesn't exist any more? Got it...and I'm the one that's out of touch.

I'm not saying these guys are going to be brothers in arms, after traveling on a rickety ship, in treacherous seas, together for 2 months to get here. But it will make the transition a lot easier to have some semblance of familiarity and comfort, knowing there's 2 other guys, around your age, from the same country, doing the exact same thing.

I'm not really sure what your issue with that is, aside from the fact that you just enjoy stirring the pot.
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The personal expectations and world view of these players are drastically different than 1986.

If he was allowed to and wanted to, I’m sure he’d be able to bond and fit in perfectly in NYC.
 
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