Prospect Info: With the 39th Overall Pick the New York Rangers Select Olof Lindbom

[Machinehead]

Supposedly Allaire loved the picked.

My view falls into two categories.

I like the player a lot.

I'm not crazy about the slot.

Having said that, because the Rangers traded the 49th pick, there wasn't necessarily a chance to grab him later and the Rangers might have felt he wasn't going to be there at 70.

I guess I would've preferred the Rangers trade down to maximize value --- but that's probably a theme for most of their 2018 draft.

At the end of the day, the Rangers clearly got the guys they wanted and made sure they got them.

That's the scary part.

 

[Machinehead]

It’s a great pick IMO so we can ageee to disagree on that. As for “not seeing anyone rank him as a top goalie” you have to understand that our scouts and our organization ranked him #1 goalie in the draft....and we got him.

Our special scouts and our special organization with all their Cups had him ranked #1. That makes me feel better.

 

[Edge]

But 28/29 isn't old. Were they drafting the replacement's replacement on top of the 2nd round? Seems silly to me.

I agree.

I'm just freestyling a guess that they don't view it as being a problem or decision point until way further down the road, at which point they'll see what they have.

In other words, it's not like they'll be forced to decided between a pair of 21 year olds.

 

[ThirdEye]

But 28/29 isn't old. Were they drafting the replacement's replacement on top of the 2nd round? Seems silly to me.

To me I'm thinking they're not sold on Shesterkin as much as we are. As good as he's been he's also had his hiccups. Additionally, playing on a stacked team has kind of inflated his stats and value by a decent amount.

Even still, this one was definitely the head scratcher of the draft.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

To me I'm thinking they're not sold on Shesterkin as much as we are. As good as he's been he's also had his hiccups. Additionally, playing on a stacked team has kind of inflated his stats and value by a decent amount.

Even still, this one was definitely the head scratcher of the draft.

Maybe, but you don't need to have a superstar goalie in this league. The variance in goalie play isn't that big and the value of a great goalie isn't that big. Lundqvist and Price haven't won shit. Arguably the two best goalies post-lockout.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

You need a great goalie like Price or Lundqvist to compete if your team year in and year out doesn't have the talent. But if that's the case you're likely not winning a cup.

 

[Elliman]

Our special scouts and our special organization with all their Cups had him ranked #1. That makes me feel better.

That’s a totally different discussion! I have faith.

 

[Machinehead]

That’s a totally different discussion! I have faith.

Bless your heart

 

[Polar Bear]

OT: But A+ name.

 

[Elliman]

Bless your heart

I still have 1994

 

[ThirdEye]

Maybe, but you don't need to have a superstar goalie in this league. The variance in goalie play isn't that big and the value of a great goalie isn't that big. Lundqvist and Price haven't won ****. Arguably the two best goalies post-lockout.

I totally agree with you.

The only other reason I can think of is they absolutely did not care of any one that wasn't already picked at that point. But considering what was left they didn't do their due diligence if that's the case

 

[Irishguy42]

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Seeing a Gronborg quote makes me want him on our team. The NHL needs some European coaching

 

[Irishguy42]

 

[Rempe73]

look at the names taken after this kid at 39.

mind boggling.

convince me that this kid was a better play than say bode wilde, eriksson, thomas , addison or tychonik to name a few SKATERS. wtf

It's a shame. I really liked Wilde and Tychonick long before the draft started. Man, I know we don't know for sure how good they will be compared to Lindbom, but we could have had one of them in addition to Lindbom. That's what makes it so frustrating. One of the biggest reaches I've ever seen and it's not even a position of need.

 

[Rempe73]

Supposedly Allaire loved the picked.

My view falls into two categories.

I like the player a lot.

I'm not crazy about the slot.

Having said that, because the Rangers traded the 49th pick, there wasn't necessarily a chance to grab him later and the Rangers might have felt he wasn't going to be there at 70.

I guess I would've preferred the Rangers trade down to maximize value --- but that's probably a theme for most of their 2018 draft.

At the end of the day, the Rangers clearly got the guys they wanted and made sure they got them.

Yea but didn't Allaire really like Halverson as well?

 

[nyr__1994]

Basically, they really liked what they saw.

From an age perspective, the kid's 17, so not only is on the younger side of the draft, he's also potentially as far as 6 or so years away.

Hank's 42 and gone by that point. Even Shestyorkin and Georgiev are potentially 28/29 by then.

And having a top notch starting goalie on their ELC or 2nd contract frees up a lot of cap space in other areas to spend money on. If one of them turns into a HoF goalie then you pay them and keep them, otherwise you move one for more picks or players and keep the pipeline moving along.

 

[Edge]

Yea but didn't Allaire really like Halverson as well?

I can’t recall.

With Lindbom, I certainly get the concern with using a second round pick — especially in a deeper draft.

Part of me is fascinated with how the sport has changed since I was kid.

Back then it was somewhat rare but not uncommon to see a goalie taken in the second or third. Tom Barasso was one of the few goalies I can remember going as a high first round pick.

Then we moved towards goalies sneaking into the first, then consistently going in the top 10.

Now we’re at a point where even the second is high.

 

[offdacrossbar]

this will be a unique pick.

i will hate it from the moment it was announced until the end of time.

no amount of pontificating or preaching will change my mind

 

[sbjnyc]

this will be a unique pick.

i will hate it from the moment it was announced until the end of time.

no amount of pontificating or preaching will change my mind

So in other words, it doesn't matter if the ranger scouts were right or if the FO read the draft boards of other teams correctly? I don't like the pick but while we'll never know what the other teams' had on their boards we will eventually know whether these picks pan out or not. I hope I'm wrong and Lindbom becomes an HoF goalie. You of course will still think you're right regardless.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

this will be a unique pick.

i will hate it from the moment it was announced until the end of time.

no amount of pontificating or preaching will change my mind

Glad you finally found your new McIlrath/Nash now that both are gone

 

[broadwayblue]

So in other words, it doesn't matter if the ranger scouts were right or if the FO read the draft boards of other teams correctly? I don't like the pick but while we'll never know what the other teams' had on their boards we will eventually know whether these picks pan out or not. I hope I'm wrong and Lindbom becomes an HoF goalie. You of course will still think you're right regardless.

It was the wrong pick at the wrong time. After trading 48 to move up for Miller this could have been an impact selection that could help our team in 2 or 3 years. Instead they used a high 2nd rounder on a player who won't help us for at least 5 years, and likely never, at a position that is far from a need. You want this kid, take him at 70. If he's not there take one of the other 25+ goalies who went after him. Or wait until next year. Just a terrible decision even if this kid is a good prospect.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Glad you finally found your new McIlrath/Nash now that both are gone

At least he admits it this time

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I can’t recall.

With Lindbom, I certainly get the concern with using a second round pick — especially in a deeper draft.

Part of me is fascinated with how the sport has changed since I was kid.

Back then it was somewhat rare but not uncommon to see a goalie taken in the second or third. Tom Barasso was one of the few goalies I can remember going as a high first round pick.

Then we moved towards goalies sneaking into the first, then consistently going in the top 10.

Now we’re at a point where even the second is high.

Absolutely. There was a time when every team wanted the next Roy or Brodeur or Hasek, as they were seen as the ultimate difference makers.

I wonder... with the continued emphasis by the rules committee on reducing goalie equipment size, whether the Rangers don't think the importance of the goalie position is going to start trending back upwards again? Ben Bishop, for example, becomes a lot less imposing when he's all gangly limbs as opposed to a wall of padding.

Doesn't change the fact that in the context of this draft given the current state of the league IMO it still seems like they took him too high (just because you may be ahead of the curve in your position valuation doesn't change the value of the pick relative to where others have goalies rated), but might offer some insight into their thinking.

 

[nyr__1994]

Absolutely. There was a time when every team wanted the next Roy or Brodeur or Hasek, as they were seen as the ultimate difference makers.

I wonder... with the continued emphasis by the rules committee on reducing goalie equipment size, whether the Rangers don't think the importance of the goalie position is going to start trending back upwards again? Ben Bishop, for example, becomes a lot less imposing when he's all gangly limbs as opposed to a wall of padding.

Doesn't change the fact that in the context of this draft given the current state of the league IMO it still seems like they took him too high (just because you may be ahead of the curve in your position valuation doesn't change the value of the pick relative to where others have goalies rated), but might offer some insight into their thinking.

This is a great point. There may be a shift back to more athleticism and reactionary saves vs just being big in net and knowing your angles....