Winnipeg Jets clinch Presidents' Trophy

I don’t know. For me it means I had the most enjoyable six months of watching hockey that I’ve ever had, and even if they crap the bed in the playoffs, I still had six great months of watching hockey. Can’t take that from me.
Fair enough.

I'm always pissed in seasons where the Avs smoke the league and fall flat in the playoffs.
 
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Ditch the trophy and 'Regular Season Champions' banner and bs associated with it. At this point it's just a bad stigma to be associated with, with no real advantage. (guaranteed homeice ain't it).

Would be cool if you could get an actual real advtange for winning the reg season like a 1st round bye like in NFL/MLB but it'd be too hard to do in NHL with how long series are relatively.
 
You know, being illiterate is something most people would be embarrassed about. It’s a shame that being innumerate doesn’t carry the same sense of shame, because then maybe you’d understand how wrong you are.

The President’s Cup winner has won the Stanley Cup 25% of the time since it was first awarded. There are 16 teams in the playoffs. Each playoff team has a 6.25% chance of winning the Cup. That means the President’s Cup winner is four times more likely to win the Cup than probability says they should. No other finisher from 2 to 16 is even close to that.

Surely you’re not daft enough to think that, with 16 teams in the playoffs, any one team has a 50% chance?! A 25% chance for any one team out of 16 is highly unlikely, yet here we are.

Math is hard.
Or even if we drop the math for him:

Good team more likely to beat bad team, but sometimes bad team does beat good team
Ditch the trophy and 'Regular Season Champions' banner and bs associated with it. At this point it's just a bad stigma to be associated with, with no real advantage. (guaranteed homeice ain't it).

Would be cool if you could get an actual real advtange for winning the reg season like a 1st round bye like in NFL/MLB but it'd be too hard to do in NHL with how long series are relatively.
I mean the advantage of finishing 1st (not just presidents, either conference) is that they play the lowest seed AKA the easiest match up possible. Seems like an advantage to me.
 
Or even if we drop the math for him:

Good team more likely to beat bad team, but sometimes bad team does beat good team

I mean the advantage of finishing 1st (not just presidents, either conference) is that they play the lowest seed AKA the easiest match up possible. Seems like an advantage to me.

That is true, but doesn't require you to win PT. Also, you're likely to get boned next round if your division is good (like WPG's is) because it's not reseeded anyway. The Jets are gonna have to play Dallas or COL next round when they should play lowest reamining seed. (yes i get the logic of they'll have to go through them at some point anyway etc.)

idk im just kinda ranting. i think the whole thing sucks (playoff format, not properly rewarding top reg season teams, and celebrating it with a trophy/banner). a cup is hard to win but if you win the reg season your path should be a little easier. I know if you're a chapmion you will find a way etc.
 
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Not sure why there’s such a culture of shitting on this achievement. In many ways it’s harder to win the regular season than to win the Cup. Random Cinderella teams don’t go on a hot streak and win 55+ games.

With 32 teams in the league, we need to get to a place where we give teams their due for achieving something this big. Otherwise there’s not a whole lot to cheer for.
 
Not sure why there’s such a culture of shitting on this achievement. In many ways it’s harder to win the regular season than to win the Cup. Random Cinderella teams don’t go on a hot streak and win 55+ games.

With 32 teams in the league, we need to get to a place where we give teams their due for achieving something this big. Otherwise there’s not a whole lot to cheer for.
No one really remembers the regular season champion. I don't think players brag about winning that trophy either when it's all said and done.
 
No one really remembers the regular season champion. I don't think players brag about winning that trophy either when it's all said and done.

1.312 times a year, millions of fans around the world cheer while their teams win regular season games. The players bleed for those wins and celebrate them.

There’s always that one guy in the back row who’s like “well it’s not like they won the Stanley Cup or something”.

Which of these do you want to be as a fan?
 
1.312 times a year, millions of fans around the world cheer while their teams win regular season games. The players bleed for those wins and celebrate them.

There’s always that one guy in the back row who’s like “well it’s not like they won the Stanley Cup or something”.

Which of these do you want to be as a fan?
Ok? I don't really see what that has anything to do with winning the President's trophy. The fans and players cheer during the regular season because they want to qualify for the playoffs to have a chance to win the cup.
 

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