Winnipeg Jets 2024-25 Coaching Thread

[surixon]

Yup... after getting caught holding their dicks in their hands (proverbally) waiting for Trotz's decision last time around, i hope that they act quickly to hire whoever they like this time

Agreed. They seem to be waiting to give Nelson an interview but it may cost them Berube/Evanson if they like one or both.

 

[bustamente]

I have no interest in “little man” making stupid faces behind the bench isn’t coaching

 

[cbcwpg]

Yup, but you have to think if they are just going to go through the motions that it will get around and coaches won't apply for future positions with the org.

Even if the Jets are 100% looking for the best available coach and not just doing the big search for optics... if they end up hiring Arniel, everyone will still be convinced that he was always the plan. The only way TNSE comes out looking like it wasn't going thru the motions, is if they hire someone other than Arniel.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

He was in person. I saw him crossing Portage from the arena, probably towards the Alt.

It's also possible he was in town checking out Dollarama, Dollar Tree, or Giant Tiger.

 

[Jets 31]

To me you want a coach in place in time for the draft , so they still have a little time to decide yet.

 

[Jets 31]

Seravalli sure knows his Jets stuff. In fairness it's hard to type with those Maple Leafs glasses on .

 

[WolfHouse]

The only difference is other teams hiring the guy you want.
You snooze, you lose.

I'd consider one month a quick decision..

 

[CorgisPer60]

Holy... like one month of waiting isn't going to make any difference - unless Chevy wants to ask the new coach about ufa/roster which I doubt

They supposedly want to interview Todd Nelson, who is currently leading an AHL team to back-to-back Calder Cup championships.

Agreed. They seem to be waiting to give Nelson an interview but it may cost them Berube/Evanson if they like one or both.

Good thing I want neither of them.

 

[roccerfeller]

Nelson wasn’t given a fair shake in the nhl, and he did well with what he had at the time in a crummy oilers club. His resume outside of that is excellent; He’d be a strong candidate

 

[surixon]

They supposedly want to interview Todd Nelson, who is currently leading an AHL team to back-to-back Calder Cup championships.



Good thing I want neither of them.

Neither do I. I would love for this org to take a chance on a coach like Nelson. Up and coming coach who has won at the lower levels.

Does anyone know his coaching philosophy and systems? I can't remember all that much from his short stint in Edmonton.

 

[MardyBum]

Neither do I. I would love for this org to take a chance on a coach like Nelson. Up and coming coach who has won at the lower levels.

Does anyone know his coaching philosophy and systems? I can't remember all that much from his short stint in Edmonton.

Kinda similar to Bowness off the quick reads of some articles, at least in defense first hockey leading to offense?

Nelson’s demeanor suiting Bears well

theahl.com

 

[surixon]

Kinda similar to Bowness off the quick reads of some articles, at least in defense first hockey leading to offense?

Nelson’s demeanor suiting Bears well

theahl.com

Thanks for this. Looks to me like they are looking to continue the defense first approach as all the candidates mentioned so far seem to be more in that mode.

 

[Buffdog]

What's the deal with Gerard Gllant? Seems like he's had success most places he's been but can't seem to stick around for very long

Is it a coaching style thing?

 

[surixon]

What's the deal with Gerard Gllant? Seems like he's had success most places he's been but can't seem to stick around for very long

Is it a coaching style thing?

There are rumblings that he burns his bridges with management quickly.

 

[Buffdog]

There are rumblings that he burns his bridges with management quickly.

That would explain a lot

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I'd consider one month a quick decision..

Sure - just pointing out the one downside of taking too long.

It was posted here earlier that TML were going to announce their decision by the end of this week. Of course there is no guarantee that happens. Just rumour.

 

[surixon]

That would explain a lot

Yup and if true he wouldn't be considered by this org.

 

[scelaton]

Thanks for this. Looks to me like they are looking to continue the defense first approach as all the candidates mentioned so far seem to be more in that mode.

Not just a good defensive systems coach, but adaptable to the opposition's tactics and with the character that they have always sought in players and coaches. From the above article:

"...That was Nelson’s goal when he came to Hershey, part of a coaching package that he terms both the “art and science” of the profession. He long ago put in place the science, the systems play that has made the Bears such a successful shut-down club. When needed against Rochester, he made further adjustments that have bottled up the Amerks’ speed.

“How do you get these guys to buy in?” Nelson asked. “How do you get these guys to become a family? How do you get these guys to play hard for each other?”

With lots of patience, communication, honesty, and direct talk. Nelson built that relationship with his players, got that buy-in from his group, and now they all are seeing the payoff."

This is not about Arniel or Nelson or any specific candidate, but about the Jets' management. The fact that they are casting a wide net for the right person supports my thesis that they are VERY unhappy with this year's end and are prepared to make significant changes.
Despite my criticism of their complacency in the past, that's water under the bridge; each off-season is another opportunity to get things right.

So far, so good...but then I said the same thing 2 minutes into the first period of the playoffs...

 

[surixon]

Not just a good defensive systems coach, but adaptable to the opposition's tactics and with the character that they have always sought in players and coaches. From the above article:

"...That was Nelson’s goal when he came to Hershey, part of a coaching package that he terms both the “art and science” of the profession. He long ago put in place the science, the systems play that has made the Bears such a successful shut-down club. When needed against Rochester, he made further adjustments that have bottled up the Amerks’ speed.

“How do you get these guys to buy in?” Nelson asked. “How do you get these guys to become a family? How do you get these guys to play hard for each other?”

With lots of patience, communication, honesty, and direct talk. Nelson built that relationship with his players, got that buy-in from his group, and now they all are seeing the payoff."

This is not about Arniel or Nelson or any specific candidate, but about the Jets' management. The fact that they are casting a wide net for the right person supports my thesis that they are VERY unhappy with this year's end and are prepared to make significant changes.
Despite my criticism of their complacency in the past, that's water under the bridge; each off-season is another opportunity to get things right.

So far, so good...but then I said the same thing 2 minutes into the first period of the playoffs...

This is a good post. He sounds like the kind of coach I'd like to see steer the group. The fact he knows Chevy is a plus.

You know I'm beginning to think you are correct. For once this org actually seems to be pissed off. Chevy probably felt he gave this group all the tools they needed to contend for the cup and they shit the bed again. I wouldn't be happy if I where in his shoes. It also sounds like the team leaders are actually angry about it. I think there are a lot of players in our room that are embarrassed/pissed going into the summer.

It seems like maybe the org has finally moved past the happy to be here and just happy to make the PO stage. It's probably a half decade past due, but I think it bodes well moving forward. A good many teams haven't made jump to true contender until they got angry about it and stopped making excuses.

I have to think had the group showed up and won a round and played well Arniel would already have the job. But given how craptastic we have looked both this and last year in the playoffs, he likely has lost some support and is likely now fighting for the job.

 

[bustamente]

I'm starting to thing that this Todd Nelson dude just might the coach that this team needs, I also agree with this core group it's time to get way past the first round next year or it's time to move some pieces.

 

[surixon]

I'm starting to thing that this Todd Nelson dude just might the coach that this team needs, I also agree with this core group it's time to get way past the first round next year or it's time to move some pieces.

I expect Ehlers to be gone this summer. Only other piece left would be KC. I doubt Helle, JoMo, or Scheifele are moved.

 

[sipowicz]

It's also possible he was in town checking out Dollarama, Dollar Tree, or Giant Tiger.

Those are still open here with it being open season on shoplifting in this welfare province!

 

[Cnile]

Those are still open here with it being open season on shoplifting in this Marxist welfare province!

FIFY

 

[sipowicz]

FIFY

LOL!

Gotta love, please don’t hurt the shoplifters even if they attack store clerks with weapons!

 

[LowLefty]

I expect Ehlers to be gone this summer. Only other piece left would be KC. I doubt Helle, JoMo, or Scheifele are moved.

They won't move KC - and I honestly doubt they move any of them.
If anyone is moved, it will be bottom 6 players - that's assuming they want to open up room for youth.
You move KC and Ehlers, and you are in rebuild territory - if you're going down that road, you might was well move 55 as well.
Regardless, I would be shocked if they move any of these guys - Ehlers possibly, but unlikely.