Winnipeg Jets: 11,226 Attendance tonight, cause for concern? What's going on in the 'Peg?

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Gabe Kupari

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We are paying 80 $ a ticket on average. Maybe more. Plus school night plus LA who isn't a big draw

Where's the Buffalo thread where they paying 20$ a ticket and have a half empty lower bowl. If this is Saturday or Friday night ok, but school nights plus $200 for 2 ppl plus LA plus 500$ for a bag of apples

$15 bucks a ticket, those aren't real then.

It's 200$ minimum for me and my kid plus 1 drink each.
 

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For all the talk about expensive Jet tickets, I can't believe how *affordable* the tickets are, looking at the resale market. For the game against STL, I see tickets starting at $15.

As a Ranger fan, I can't step foot in The Garden for less than $100, and that's the price I'd pay for Nosebleeds against the Arizona Coyotes on a Tuesday night, mimimum.

The Rangers who play in Manhattan are obviously a different animal than Winnipeg, sure. Buffalo was hyped as hell coming into the season and are a huge sports town, they only had 66% attendance last night against a good lightning team. The Sharks barely had 60% capacity against Carolina last night, looked like a covid era game with empty house.

I doubt the Jets specifically are doing anything different than ohter teams in terms of raising prices of tickets/concessions with inflation etc.

They are jsut part of a bigger issue with attendance in the league right now, and since their popluation is a lot lower than most markets, it's rearing it's head more.
The cost to season ticket holders for our P5 upper deck tickets (around the hash marks) was around $55 per game when the team came back, it’s $85-100 per ticket now. Almost all people use the official Ticketmaster exchange to sell their tickets, I’m not even sure what StubHub would have.
 

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We are paying 80 $ a ticket on average. Maybe more. Plus school night plus LA who isn't a big draw

Where's the Buffalo thread where they paying 20$ a ticket and have a half empty lower bowl. If this is Saturday or Friday night ok, but school nights plus $200 for 2 ppl plus LA plus 500$ for a bag of apples

$15 bucks a ticket, those aren't real then.

It's 200$ minimum for me and my kid plus 1 drink each.


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$15 was the price before the BS fees. With fees, still very affordable (imo at least). Tons of tickets in the $20's-$30's with fees....hey if they invent teleporation any time soon, I'll go to all Jet games for those prices and move up into a better vacated seat.
 

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SeatGeek

$15 was the price before the BS fees. With fees, still very affordable (imo at least). Tons of tickets in the $20's-$30's with fees....hey if they invent teleporation any time soon, I'll go to all Jet games for those prices and move up into a better vacated seat.

Good luck with that. It's 10$ for a beer dude but plz tell a guy who goes to games here more please.
 

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SeatGeek

$15 was the price before the BS fees. With fees, still very affordable (imo at least). Tons of tickets in the $20's-$30's with fees....hey if they invent teleporation any time soon, I'll go to all Jet games for those prices and move up into a better vacated seat.
Even if that’s the prevailing rate - can you see why we wouldn’t have season ticket holders anymore if they have to pay $85 per game?
 

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The shiny new toy effect is wearing off. There's always a lot of craze when there's a new team coming to a market. 4000+ empty seats when PLD is making his return to Winnipeg, that's pretty alarming.

Or are fans just showing their frustration to ownership ?
 

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Even if that’s the prevailing rate - can you see why we wouldn’t have season ticket holders anymore if they have to pay $85 per game?
Easily. Makes total sense. That kind of price gouging is predatory garbage.

I just hope this is remembered the next time it's a "non-traditional market" in the crosshairs, is all. (Not accusing you specifically, FWIW.)
 

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We are paying 80 $ a ticket on average. Maybe more. Plus school night plus LA who isn't a big draw

Where's the Buffalo thread where they paying 20$ a ticket and have a half empty lower bowl. If this is Saturday or Friday night ok, but school nights plus $200 for 2 ppl plus LA plus 500$ for a bag of apples

$15 bucks a ticket, those aren't real then.

It's 200$ minimum for me and my kid plus 1 drink each.

Honestly 80 bucks a ticket isn't bad at all.
 

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Jets are one of the cheaper teams in the league to watch.
 

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Don't bother with this Club For Growth Groupie. He leaves out enough significant context that he can't be taken seriously.
I don't know if it's been mentioned in the thread or not, but ticket prices!

We've seen exponential growth in team valuations, largely on the back of ticket price hikes. The average ticket price to a Habs game this year is bordering on $200. I might even be low-balling.

$200*21000*41= 172000000 in ticket revenue alone. Twice the salary cap. Even the smaller markets, where tickets might only be $100, you're covering your cap on ticket revenue. BUT ... it comes at the expense of the fans. The NHL seems content to roll with this model while markets without a huge commercial base eventually struggle to support it.

I'd have a far easier time believing that 2000 season ticket holders decided to walk away because of the cost instead of a short-term policy based on a public health order (as one person suggested).

Winnipeg has some commerical presence - insurance - but it's not overflowing with entities that can buy a handful of seats and write them off as a corporate expense. They need the average Joe and Jane, and the average Joe and Jane are falling further and further behind.

At least with a team that has a national appeal, you can rely on some individual ticket sales to folks making an annual pilgrimage.

All that to say, I don't believe the Jets should move. I don't think they will move. Thomson is a massive company and can likely afford to weather any storm. I just think the league, in general, needs to start asking itself some very serious questions - instead of baiting with expansion.
 

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Tickets prices are obscene for highly indebted Canadians. Mortgage rates resetting is going to take a lot of money from the average Canadian's disposable income.

The coming recession is going to be a lot harder on Canada than America.
Please tell me it's not gonna be worse than it already is.

Honestly this is a big part of it though. Jokes aside Jets fans, the economy is in a horrible state. The wife and I usually attend 7-8 ish games a year, we won't be going to any this season sadly. Interest rates keep spiking, groceries/bills/mortgage etc. everything has gone absolutely through the roof.

Toronto obviously has a much bigger population than Winnipeg so it's an easy sell out. For the average working family, with how expensive everything is in Canada right now, it's just not feasible. How can you justify spending 200-300 bucks on a game when people can barely afford the essentials ?
 
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All this is entirely fair and I don't think Jets fans deserve to go through that. I'm reasonably confident, at least, that the Jets aren't at real risk of moving anytime soon (not unless True North gives up on owning the team as opposed to having done so on merely administering it).

The problem (not claiming that you're contesting this, just putting this out there) is that there were plenty of fans of other hockey teams also with entirely fair reasons for downturns that also had to go through heavier waves of toxic derisive and dismissive comments and attention for years and years, and a lot of it was driven by folks who claimed loyalty to the pre-return Jets (plus the Nordiques and Hamilton). Said attitudes were so persistent and so vicious that some kind of backlash would be kind of inevitable. The point is supposed to be les "lol winnipeg" and more "this sort of thing happens to everybody and it's valid for everybody".
It doesn't happen to everybody, though.
 

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All this is entirely fair and I don't think Jets fans deserve to go through that. I'm reasonably confident, at least, that the Jets aren't at real risk of moving anytime soon (not unless True North gives up on owning the team as opposed to having done so on merely administering it).

The problem (not claiming that you're contesting this, just putting this out there) is that there were plenty of fans of other hockey teams also with entirely fair reasons for downturns that also had to go through heavier waves of toxic derisive and dismissive comments and attention for years and years, and a lot of it was driven by folks who claimed loyalty to the pre-return Jets (plus the Nordiques and Hamilton). Said attitudes were so persistent and so vicious that some kind of backlash would be kind of inevitable. The point is supposed to be les "lol winnipeg" and more "this sort of thing happens to everybody and it's valid for everybody".

There's that but the Jets more than any team in the last 10 years have done less than anyone to try to improve their team. They draft new players and trade whoever begs their way out. No more no less. The only thing that's ever moved the needle for them was having a decent team in place and having Hellebuyck take over in net while having enough luck to land Patrik Laine. Since then? Year after year of nothing
 

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Please tell me it's not gonna be worse than it already is.

Honestly this is a big part of it though. Jokes aside Jets fans, the economy is in a horrible state. The wife and I usually attend 7-8 ish games a year, we won't be going to any this season sadly. Interest rates keep spiking, groceries/bills/mortgage etc. everything has gone absolutely through the roof.

Toronto obviously has a much bigger population than Winnipeg so it's an easy sell out. For the average working family, with how expensive everything is in Canada right now, it's just not feasible. How can you justify spending 200-300 bucks on a game when people can barely afford the essentials ?

Some of these owners are so rich they think they can handle 3-4 down years of an economy and team and hope they get a really good team soon after and improved economy w\o dealing with any pricing adjustments when coming out the other side and start hiking from the higher base.
 

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Pick one.
Houston Aeros, using the Jetas old logo. Winnipeg experiment needs to end. The team is not a viable franchise- as judged by attendance when the team is mediocre.
 

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Lol, that pretty clearly isn't what you absolutely inferred.

What did I infer exactly? Just stated a reason for a significant drop in attendance. Sure they likely feel slighted and pissed off.
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But Gary said the cap is going up

35pts Ds on elc get 8M wtf

Almost like the economic turmoil coming out of COVID has negatively impacted a number of smaller markets. Hardly a surprise.
 
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johnjm22

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10 dollars a beer is cheap. it costs 16 dollars usd here.

Wtf 10 cdn is 7.35 usd.

drink up!


beer at the caps game is literally 16 usd lol. it's a ripoff. why I don't drink there.
I posted this on the Kings board earlier, but this was my cost to go to LA's home opener:

$459 for 2 tickets (lower bowl)
$20 for parking
$95 for 4 small beers
$65 for 2 kabob rice bows in the arena
$20 for a hotdog in the arena
$90 in gas (I drive a Titan)

$749 total spent to watch the Kings lose :)

You read that right. After tax and tip, almost 100 bucks for 4 beers.
 

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Easily. Makes total sense. That kind of price gouging is predatory garbage.

I just hope this is remembered the next time it's a "non-traditional market" in the crosshairs, is all. (Not accusing you specifically, FWIW.)
There is support, just at what they initially sold it as, and the 5% annual increases were likely the highest sustained increases anywhere in the league. The way it was sold to us - would you enjoy the team at $55/ticket? Sure! At double the price? No. Double the price on anything and there will be drastically reduced demand. While I didn’t want to go to every game necessarily, it was nice to have something to do a few nights a week, and went anyway. I think most STHs felt the same - making the sale despite the lack of demand is what STHs are good for. Abuse their contribution, and they will stop going entirely. Now you get them at $100 for a couple games per year instead of $50 for 41.

For half-season STHs, this is what you get: they start at $62 for nose-bleeds.
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Standard single-game tickets start at $54+fees ($63 total), totally defeating the purpose of having season tickets. TNSE has learned nothing and continues to piss off season ticket holders, what other outcome is there other than offended season ticket holders that now don’t want to go at all?
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There's that but the Jets more than any team in the last 10 years have done less than anyone to try to improve their team. They draft new players and trade whoever begs their way out. No more no less. The only thing that's ever moved the needle for them was having a decent team in place and having Hellebuyck take over in net while having enough luck to land Patrik Laine. Since then? Year after year of nothing
True enough, altho the decade before that the well-known "do-nothing" team was the Thrashers, so arguably it's a tradiiton of that paritcular franchise. :) And there are many ways to murder faith in one's team.
 
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Gabe Kupari

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It's a Tuesday folks. Jets are big with kids and families, not as many last night... it's a school night, also there is an illness going around that lots of kids and adults have, if this happens Friday Saturday night, ok but week Night against a non rival.. plus everything else... there it is.

Ppl gonna pick n chose which games to go to. LA ain't a draw even with Dubois
 
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