Proposal: Winnipeg/Anaheim - Stoner deal

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So, despite the catchy heading, Jets are not so much interested in Stoner as they are in getting a depth LHD in the deal. But Ana needs to shed cap, and this is one of the easiest ways to do it. In fact, I suggested this deal on the Ana trade boards & got only one luke-warm response, suggesting its pretty close!

Lot of talk on the Ana boards about needing to shed a decent prospect to get rid of Stoner's cap hit (3.25 x 2 left). Montour has been mentioned a couple times (and he'd be great except that he's RHD and we need a LHD). Montour's salary is similar to Theodore's (actually higher) so I presume they are ~ equal prospects.

Deal I would propose is that we give ANA a good F prospect like Dano/Armia in exchange for Theodore & Stoner.

That gets rid of ANA's Stoner problem (allowing them to sign Lindholm) & gets them a promising young forward that can fit right into their top 6 or 9. Thoughts? -- are we giving AHA too much to get rid of their problem?
 

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I'd probably do Dano for Stoner and Theodore but then again I am not as high on Theodore as maybe Ducks fans would be. Not all that high on Dano but if the choice is to move someone with Stoner to move him to get Lindholm signed, I'd probably prefer it was Theodore moved out over Montour.
 

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I think an idea like this is best case for Anaheim, as far as trading stoner

we are weak @ offense/offensive prospects so if we add 1 of our d prospects(pref theo/Montour) to stoner and get some sort of decent forward prospect. Obviously id prefer to not have stoner and get a better prospect but we are in a bit of a jam and this seems like a best case scenario, go to highest bidder tho.
 

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What's up with Armia ? I know he was highly regarded in his draft year and seemed to be developing well overseas, but is he having problems adjusting to the NA game ? What is his current upside projection in the NHL ? :popcorn:
 

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Guy does everything so far but score, I really like him as a solid two way forward.

Armia sounds like the last guy we need. Would rather have a offensively focused guy instead of one who can't score but is still good defensively. We have too many of those kind of players already.
 

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What's up with Armia ? I know he was highly regarded in his draft year and seemed to be developing well overseas, but is he having problems adjusting to the NA game ? What is his current upside projection in the NHL ? :popcorn:

Good hands, protects the puck well, can pass well, his shots okay but not great, forechecks unlike anyone else we have on our team (he practically 1v4'd the other night on our PK in their dzone), strong stick. His only knock against him is that he's not scoring points. Well, when you're saddled up with Burmistrov, even Ehlers couldn't produce more than 4 total points in a month and a half stretch next to Burmi last year. His play with Ladd and I think it was Lowry last season before Ladd's trade looked very promising as he was generating scoring chances that just weren't being finished and then he got injured. This season he's already back to looking like he was pre-injury and he's in our bottom 6, I'd love to see him get the opportunity to play top 6 on Scheifele or Perreault's wing instead of Drew Stafford who doesn't have the speed to keep up or win puck battles/races.
 

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I'd probably do Dano for Stoner and Theodore but then again I am not as high on Theodore as maybe Ducks fans would be. Not all that high on Dano but if the choice is to move someone with Stoner to move him to get Lindholm signed, I'd probably prefer it was Theodore moved out over Montour.

If the Duck are offering Theodore with Stoner I would hope the Oilers are all over it . I would rather a right hand d but bagger can't be choosers
 

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theodore isnt being put to a cap dump lol. neither is 19 year old jacob larsson. whos been pretty good so far in the NHL. maybe montour
 

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OP, what ever your current job is, quit it, and go work for buzzfeed.
 

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If the Duck are offering Theodore with Stoner I would hope the Oilers are all over it . I would rather a right hand d but bagger can't be choosers

I feel like if Theodore was packaged with stoner a bunch of teams would start bidding... that's why I said the idea is good but idk that dano/armia gets it done.
 

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If the Duck are offering Theodore with Stoner I would hope the Oilers are all over it . I would rather a right hand d but bagger can't be choosers

I doubt the Oilers have anything that would make a lot of sense for this type of deal and I don't think Anaheim is going to want to put anyone they actually value on a division rival.

theodore isnt being put to a cap dump lol. neither is 19 year old jacob larsson. whos been pretty good so far in the NHL. maybe montour

Larsson definitely won't be but you probably have even odds on whether Theodore or Montour would be in a deal like this depending on the team they're trading with. Ideally, neither of them would be because both have good potential. There are a lot of moving parts with how Despres is doing, their plans for Bieksa after this year, if they're going to need to move Fowler even with this type of deal to get Lindholm signed, and whether Manson can prove his play last year is something he can do consistently. If they plan on moving Despres when they can and buy out Bieksa prior to the expansion draft if he decides on not waiving his clause, they will need Montour to fill out the blue line. Same goes for Theodore if they move Stoner and then still have to move Fowler to get Lindholm signed.
 

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I doubt the Oilers have anything that would make a lot of sense for this type of deal and I don't think Anaheim is going to want to put anyone they actually value on a division rival.



Larsson definitely won't be but you probably have even odds on whether Theodore or Montour would be in a deal like this depending on the team they're trading with. Ideally, neither of them would be because both have good potential. There are a lot of moving parts with how Despres is doing, their plans for Bieksa after this year, if they're going to need to move Fowler even with this type of deal to get Lindholm signed, and whether Manson can prove his play last year is something he can do consistently. If they plan on moving Despres when they can and buy out Bieksa prior to the expansion draft if he decides on not waiving his clause, they will need Montour to fill out the blue line. Same goes for Theodore if they move Stoner and then still have to move Fowler to get Lindholm signed.

Id much rather add the 1st over Montour/Theodore/larsson cause I feel like we can trade 1 of them for a established forward prospect that we would likely be looking for in the draft any how. Or a 2nd+, so moving 1 of those 3 with stoner I hope is more of a last resort.
 

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Sorry its merely a proposal but I'm not exactly sure how to change the title. Oh well gets attention at least which is more than I could get on the ANA board when I asked them about it.

Eh I think its more weve had fans from all over asking bout our 3 d prospects and our 3 young nhl dmen... we are more or less worn out from responding when al they have to do is read a little further back.


That being said its an interesting concept... and like I said idk that dano/armia get it done if Theodore is added to stoner, I feel like that would be out bid but the concept/idea is decent, at the end of the day id rather give up a 1st pick with stoner to get rid of his contract and trade Theodore or Montour at full value for a like rated/skilled and more established forward prospect, because that's what we would be drafting with our 1st anyway
 

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