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RRhoads said:
I value these prospect (pool) rankings at the same level I value a random HF poster's ranking. They are just opinions and wrong most of the time. Same with draft rankings. And "most of the time" is a huge understatement.
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Also 10th is a good ranking. Gotta keep things in perspective.
 
Pavels Dog said:
Also 10th is a good ranking. Gotta keep things in perspective.
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Should be better.

Which 9 teams are better? I can think of maybe 4.

Anaheim, Buffalo, Columbus (if you still count Fantilli) and MAYBE Montreal. I think Nashville is close, but Detroit should be no worse than 6 in the rankings.
 
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10 seems a little low but it really depends on what exactly the ranker values, I.e. Age, ceiling, floor, postion. 4-8 seems pretty fair for us.

Granted outside of newest top prospects I don't know much about other teams
 
ricky0034 said:
with Minnesota still not ranked on those rankings i'm perversely curious to see how much absurdly higher than Cossa they probably have Wallstedt
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My guess is there's some stat watching for Danila Yurov and Riley Heidt. (How did he fall so far anyway? I thought he was supposed to be a 1st round pick. Is his skating bad or his attitude?)

Minnesota has some decent forward prospects at the top but don't seem very deep. On defense they don't look great either. Carson Lambos is looking like Jared McIsaac. Faber is full time with the team and they don't really have anyone else on D in their prospect pool.
 
OgeeOgelthorpe said:
Should be better.

Which 9 teams are better? I can think of maybe 4.

Anaheim, Buffalo, Columbus (if you still count Fantilli) and MAYBE Montreal. I think Nashville is close, but Detroit should be no worse than 6 in the rankings.
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I could see Dallas, maybe Philly just because of Michkov, Chicago I guess. Rankings that focus mainly on the top 2-3 guys and don’t rate depth/goalies as much will have us lower.
 
lilidk said:
AJo looks low , everything else is about right


Potential?
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I mean I would imagine so? They obviously, as does any of these prospect rating sites, have favored traits/tools in prospects. For me, I take a 6'6" defencemen, that can skate, defend, and move the puck up the ice; over what I would consider a more specialized prospect. Not to say I am down on Pelikka, but I think Ed can have a greater overall impact on a game if he reaches his potential.
 
cvaicunas said:
I mean I would imagine so? They obviously, as does any of these prospect rating sites, have favored traits/tools in prospects. For me, I take a 6'6" defencemen, that can skate, defend, and move the puck up the ice; over what I would consider a more specialized prospect. Not to say I am down on Pelikka, but I think Ed can have a greater overall impact on a game if he reaches his potential.
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Who knows , I think ASP and Edvinsson should be on the same pair and benefits from each other
 
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The Dobbers stuff is an outlier ranking, not worth taking seriously even in the not-to-taken-seriously world of prospect pool rankings. It was a nice touch though to give evaluation points to a decimal value. Gives the impression of some seriously deep calculation going on of so much relevant data that it can't be boiled down to just whole numbers, it needs to be in tenths and even hundredths. Probably took hours of number-crunching and informed debate amongst hockey wizards to produce Buchelnikov's 5.48 as opposed to 5.61 or 5.34.

It's fantasy content, nothing more, based almost entirely on point production, highlights and social media gossip amongst the commentary community, and filtered through one dubious content producer. The Wings have a very good prospect pool, largely filled at the top with quality two-way players who will be better NHLers than many higher scoring prospects getting more attention.
 
I mean, there's some considerations here.

The KHL is decent competition.
Pay is better than the AHL.
Don't have to ride the bus.

I have never had any expectation that Buchelnikov would actually come to NA. He has to be aware of how the Red Wings are handling the prospect pipeline, and he is likely below all of Kasper, Danielson, Mazur, Berggren, and possibly even Lombardi. I don't blame him for not wanting to ride a bus for three years and having to piss off President Vladimir "my enemies voluntarily fall out of windows" Putin for the privilege.
 
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He was already signed next year, but I think in the KHL they re-negotiate contracts sometimes. So I'm assuming he just tacked on an extra year beyond next season.
 
Christien said:
I'd prefer he stay over there and develop his game until he's ready; it usually bodes well for the Russian players who cross the pond.

What else does he have to do to earn a permanent KHL spot? He played very well for the Admiral in the KHL this season
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How long do we have his rights ?
I actually don't get it , elite prospects showing 24-25 with CKA and why him, they have Demidov and Michkov ahead
 
lilidk said:
How long do we have his rights ?
I actually don't get it , elite prospects showing 24-25 with CKA and why him, they have Demidov and Michkov ahead
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Last I heard was that there’s a good chance Michkov plays in Philly next season, but I get what you’re saying. His KHL club is pretty stacked. Maybe they loan him out again if he can’t hold down a spot there
 
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