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Oh now you got to share that story! Or not, no pressure either way.

If it ended horribly, then nobody should be forced to share.

It did end horribly but was a long time ago. Hindsight and self reflection helped me move past the events as they happened. Jury is still out on the events that could have happened if things went differently.

Not that great of a story, but since at least one person is a glutton for punishment, I'll try to recount as much as I can remember since it was a long time ago and my memory has forgotten some aspects of it.

TL/DR: I asked a girl out to the 9th grade grad dance and things didn't work out as I hoped.

Long version. It's a giant wall of text. You have been warned.
This was thirty-something years ago when I was 15 years old. As a kid I was pretty shy, a strange combination of extroverted and introverted: with people I knew well, I could be pretty outgoing but around those I wasn't familiar with, I was quite reserved and quiet.

Early on in my senior year in middle school, the last semester began after the winter break. I arrived late to one particular class, and most of the seats had been filled up already. Scanning the room didn't show many seats nearby nor anyone I really new, so I prompted to sit to the empty desk closest to me. Now perhaps the reason was laziness in not going to an empty desk somewhere in the middle of the class, or perhaps it was subconscious because it was the desk right behind someone I sort of knew; as in, I knew the girl sitting there as we had been classmates since elementary school but never engaged in any sort of social interaction.

Almost as soon as I sat down, she almost immediately turned around and engaged me in conversation. I remember feeling quite puzzled as to why she did that, since we weren't really friends and never had interacted before. My shy personality was present, and I felt quite uncomfortable. The conversation was your typical teenage type of conversation, about school, classes, and what-not.

As time passed, her behaviour shifted slightly, as she began teasing me ever so slightly. Not the mean type of teasing, the term "playful teasing" could likely best be used to describe it. I don't remember much about what exactly she said, but the teasing question "You're my boyfriend, right?" stuck with me all these years later.

I was only 15 and hadn't ever interacted with a girl before, not really much in my previous middle school years nor in elementary. The most I ever had was playing with both boy and girl friends on the school ground or possibly working on assignments or as part of the elementary school patrol. So my inexperience didn't see what she was actually doing. I was very puzzled, and unsure of how to respond.

Her teasing question went on for a long time. I hadn't really considered her in that way before. Yes, she was quite pretty: short brown hair, brown eyes, sweet smile. But growing up I always seemed to place a pretty high value on personality: I couldn't ever see myself with anyone if they didn't have a wonderful personality, and that mattered more to me than looks did.

Somewhere in her teasing, I began to develop a crush on her. I got to know her personality pretty well over the course of her teasing me the 10-15 minutes before that class each day.

The other thing I should mention is that as a kid, I was pretty overweight, and while self-conscious about it, it was always one of those things that was in the back of my mind. Thankfully no one ever made fun of me for it as I recall, but as you get into that awkward teenage years, everything seems more amplified.

So my dilemma became what should I do about this girl, who now I had a crush on, who I thought might have interest, to find my way through my unconscious hang-ups and shyness, to find some path forward?

In retrospect, the answer is pretty easy: throw out a question about hanging out or going to a movie, but 15-year old me was terrified of that possibility. It wasn't so much a fear or rejection, but rather a fear of making a complete fool of myself. As I mentioned, she was quite pretty, and at least in my own self view, I was not very attractive.

My internal debate went on for a long time. Finally, I decided that I had to know where I stood, as the thought of spending the rest of my life wondering what might have been to be more terrifying of making a fool of myself. So I rehearsed a speech for the next day, where I would ask her out to our 9th grade graduation dance.

The day came, and I was more nervous than I had ever been before. The routine started as it always had, and of course she teased me once again, but for whatever reason, I could not get the rehearsed speech out at all. I was way too nervous to start it, and before I knew it, the bell rang and class had begun.

I mentally kicked myself for being too afraid, so I thought I'd try again after class. My mind was too consumed going over the speech once again that I paid little attention to what was going on in class.

However, as fate would have it, the bell rang signaling the end of class, and I chickened out a second time.

I kind of knew where she might be since she had mentioned what her next class was, so I dropped off my books in my locker and tried to time it so that I would pass her on the stairs. And of course, sure enough, as I walked down the stairs, I saw her climbing back up.

My heart began pounding in my chest, and as she passed me, I thought to myself it was now or never. So I called out her name in the form of a question, and spun around. She looked at me a little confused and said "Yeah?".

I had reached the point of no return, and had to continue. But the speech I rehearsed went completely out the window. I was too nervous and if I didn't say anything in that moment, I wouldn't get any words out at all. So I kind of just blurted out whether she wanted to go to grad with me.

She looked pretty confused, and maybe awkward. She told me that she'd have to think about it, maybe that she had planned going with friends. The words were drowned out by the nervousness I felt so I didn't hear much of it.

I think I said something like OK, and turned around and continued walking. I suppose in hindsight I should have said something more, but I guess I barely got the words out the first time, there wasn't anything more I would have been able to say.

As I walked off, I felt relieved. Sure, it wasn't a flat out rejection, might have been a soft rejection even, but I was relieved because it was over and I didn't feel humiliated, so all in all was a positive feeling.

But any positiveness I felt was dashed a few moments later.

As I made my way back to my locker to grab my stuff for the next class, I saw her out of the corner of my eye, talked with a friend of hers. I couldn't hear what was being said, but given what had happened, I figured it must have been because of my asking her out.

I strained to hear while fumbling with stuff in my locker, but couldn't hear anything being said. After she had finished talking, I heard her friend exclaim "Oh my God!". In that moment, I was utterly devastated. It wasn't so much the words but rather the tone in her voice. It was a mixture of clear surprise and disgust. And in that moment, any self confidence I had went completely down the proverbial toilet.

The rest of that day was a haze. There was lots of gossip, and it seemed that everyone whispered and looked in my direction, which made it all the more difficult.

A lot of time passed, and at least the gossip had ceased, but I wasn't in the same mental place I had been prior. Which leads us to the moment that this story was about.

I found myself walking to school that day. It was early summer, and there was only a few more weeks left in school. I spotted her standing in a group on the outside of the school. I couldn't handle any possible interaction, as it would just remind me of how foolish I was, so I tried to make for a different door, but I heard my name called out.

I watched as one of her friends made her way towards me. She was someone the both of us knew from elementary school, and I began to wonder why she was coming towards me. I felt pretty awkward, as I didn't feel quite like having a discussion with anyone at that moment.

Once she finally arrived, she told me that the girl really liked me, and if I were to ask her to grad again, she would say yes. I found myself absolutely stunned at this development. Considering my emotional state, there was no way I would have ever guessed this was actually possible, but it had actually happened.

My mind wandered at the possibilities. I felt like I was in a pivotal moment, that the next few minutes would shape out how my life would unfold. I knew that this was an important moment, and I thought about what I should do. My mind then shifted to thinking about what I might say, what she might say in response, thought about what grade 9 grad would be like and us going together.

Unfortunately for me, I wouldn't have the chance to make a choice. I suddenly became overwhelmed with a raw, primal fear. I felt like someone or something pulled me away, like it was fate intervening and making the choice for me. In retrospect, I think it might have been my fight or flight response kicking in, making me run from whatever perceived danger my subconscious mind thought I was in.

So ultimately, in the end, I walked away, and didn't ask her out after all. It's one of those moments that you wish you could turn back the dial of time on and change but can't.

There's more to the story, but this post is already a giant wall of text, so I'll just end it there. Suffice it to say, we didn't go to the dance together.


Huh. The spoiler tag didn't do what I thought it would. Oh well :laugh:
 

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Nobody should be forced to do anything at all. That's why I said no pressure. But, if it was a long time ago and a great story, they may have put enough emotional distance that it just becomes a great story. If I am wrong I apologize @GeorgeJETson

No reason to apologize. It's probably a boring story I just inflicted on everyone so maybe I should be the one to apologize! :laugh:
 

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No reason to apologize. It's probably a boring story I just inflicted on everyone so maybe I should be the one to apologize! :laugh:
It's a fabulous story. God the pain of middle school comes right back to me and how f***ing awkward and stupid I was back then. Feel for you, dude, you make it sound like totally alone but there was millions of us just like you. You told it real well.
 

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It did end horribly but was a long time ago. Hindsight and self reflection helped me move past the events as they happened. Jury is still out on the events that could have happened if things went differently.

Not that great of a story, but since at least one person is a glutton for punishment, I'll try to recount as much as I can remember since it was a long time ago and my memory has forgotten some aspects of it.

TL/DR: I asked a girl out to the 9th grade grad dance and things didn't work out as I hoped.

Long version. It's a giant wall of text. You have been warned.
This was thirty-something years ago when I was 15 years old. As a kid I was pretty shy, a strange combination of extroverted and introverted: with people I knew well, I could be pretty outgoing but around those I wasn't familiar with, I was quite reserved and quiet.

Early on in my senior year in middle school, the last semester began after the winter break. I arrived late to one particular class, and most of the seats had been filled up already. Scanning the room didn't show many seats nearby nor anyone I really new, so I prompted to sit to the empty desk closest to me. Now perhaps the reason was laziness in not going to an empty desk somewhere in the middle of the class, or perhaps it was subconscious because it was the desk right behind someone I sort of knew; as in, I knew the girl sitting there as we had been classmates since elementary school but never engaged in any sort of social interaction.

Almost as soon as I sat down, she almost immediately turned around and engaged me in conversation. I remember feeling quite puzzled as to why she did that, since we weren't really friends and never had interacted before. My shy personality was present, and I felt quite uncomfortable. The conversation was your typical teenage type of conversation, about school, classes, and what-not.

As time passed, her behaviour shifted slightly, as she began teasing me ever so slightly. Not the mean type of teasing, the term "playful teasing" could likely best be used to describe it. I don't remember much about what exactly she said, but the teasing question "You're my boyfriend, right?" stuck with me all these years later.

I was only 15 and hadn't ever interacted with a girl before, not really much in my previous middle school years nor in elementary. The most I ever had was playing with both boy and girl friends on the school ground or possibly working on assignments or as part of the elementary school patrol. So my inexperience didn't see what she was actually doing. I was very puzzled, and unsure of how to respond.

Her teasing question went on for a long time. I hadn't really considered her in that way before. Yes, she was quite pretty: short brown hair, brown eyes, sweet smile. But growing up I always seemed to place a pretty high value on personality: I couldn't ever see myself with anyone if they didn't have a wonderful personality, and that mattered more to me than looks did.

Somewhere in her teasing, I began to develop a crush on her. I got to know her personality pretty well over the course of her teasing me the 10-15 minutes before that class each day.

The other thing I should mention is that as a kid, I was pretty overweight, and while self-conscious about it, it was always one of those things that was in the back of my mind. Thankfully no one ever made fun of me for it as I recall, but as you get into that awkward teenage years, everything seems more amplified.

So my dilemma became what should I do about this girl, who now I had a crush on, who I thought might have interest, to find my way through my unconscious hang-ups and shyness, to find some path forward?

In retrospect, the answer is pretty easy: throw out a question about hanging out or going to a movie, but 15-year old me was terrified of that possibility. It wasn't so much a fear or rejection, but rather a fear of making a complete fool of myself. As I mentioned, she was quite pretty, and at least in my own self view, I was not very attractive.

My internal debate went on for a long time. Finally, I decided that I had to know where I stood, as the thought of spending the rest of my life wondering what might have been to be more terrifying of making a fool of myself. So I rehearsed a speech for the next day, where I would ask her out to our 9th grade graduation dance.

The day came, and I was more nervous than I had ever been before. The routine started as it always had, and of course she teased me once again, but for whatever reason, I could not get the rehearsed speech out at all. I was way too nervous to start it, and before I knew it, the bell rang and class had begun.

I mentally kicked myself for being too afraid, so I thought I'd try again after class. My mind was too consumed going over the speech once again that I paid little attention to what was going on in class.

However, as fate would have it, the bell rang signaling the end of class, and I chickened out a second time.

I kind of knew where she might be since she had mentioned what her next class was, so I dropped off my books in my locker and tried to time it so that I would pass her on the stairs. And of course, sure enough, as I walked down the stairs, I saw her climbing back up.

My heart began pounding in my chest, and as she passed me, I thought to myself it was now or never. So I called out her name in the form of a question, and spun around. She looked at me a little confused and said "Yeah?".

I had reached the point of no return, and had to continue. But the speech I rehearsed went completely out the window. I was too nervous and if I didn't say anything in that moment, I wouldn't get any words out at all. So I kind of just blurted out whether she wanted to go to grad with me.

She looked pretty confused, and maybe awkward. She told me that she'd have to think about it, maybe that she had planned going with friends. The words were drowned out by the nervousness I felt so I didn't hear much of it.

I think I said something like OK, and turned around and continued walking. I suppose in hindsight I should have said something more, but I guess I barely got the words out the first time, there wasn't anything more I would have been able to say.

As I walked off, I felt relieved. Sure, it wasn't a flat out rejection, might have been a soft rejection even, but I was relieved because it was over and I didn't feel humiliated, so all in all was a positive feeling.

But any positiveness I felt was dashed a few moments later.

As I made my way back to my locker to grab my stuff for the next class, I saw her out of the corner of my eye, talked with a friend of hers. I couldn't hear what was being said, but given what had happened, I figured it must have been because of my asking her out.

I strained to hear while fumbling with stuff in my locker, but couldn't hear anything being said. After she had finished talking, I heard her friend exclaim "Oh my God!". In that moment, I was utterly devastated. It wasn't so much the words but rather the tone in her voice. It was a mixture of clear surprise and disgust. And in that moment, any self confidence I had went completely down the proverbial toilet.

The rest of that day was a haze. There was lots of gossip, and it seemed that everyone whispered and looked in my direction, which made it all the more difficult.

A lot of time passed, and at least the gossip had ceased, but I wasn't in the same mental place I had been prior. Which leads us to the moment that this story was about.

I found myself walking to school that day. It was early summer, and there was only a few more weeks left in school. I spotted her standing in a group on the outside of the school. I couldn't handle any possible interaction, as it would just remind me of how foolish I was, so I tried to make for a different door, but I heard my name called out.

I watched as one of her friends made her way towards me. She was someone the both of us knew from elementary school, and I began to wonder why she was coming towards me. I felt pretty awkward, as I didn't feel quite like having a discussion with anyone at that moment.

Once she finally arrived, she told me that the girl really liked me, and if I were to ask her to grad again, she would say yes. I found myself absolutely stunned at this development. Considering my emotional state, there was no way I would have ever guessed this was actually possible, but it had actually happened.

My mind wandered at the possibilities. I felt like I was in a pivotal moment, that the next few minutes would shape out how my life would unfold. I knew that this was an important moment, and I thought about what I should do. My mind then shifted to thinking about what I might say, what she might say in response, thought about what grade 9 grad would be like and us going together.

Unfortunately for me, I wouldn't have the chance to make a choice. I suddenly became overwhelmed with a raw, primal fear. I felt like someone or something pulled me away, like it was fate intervening and making the choice for me. In retrospect, I think it might have been my fight or flight response kicking in, making me run from whatever perceived danger my subconscious mind thought I was in.

So ultimately, in the end, I walked away, and didn't ask her out after all. It's one of those moments that you wish you could turn back the dial of time on and change but can't.

There's more to the story, but this post is already a giant wall of text, so I'll just end it there. Suffice it to say, we didn't go to the dance together.


Huh. The spoiler tag didn't do what I thought it would. Oh well :laugh:
That was an amazing story thank you for sharing it. You were a better man than I am even as a teenager, putting more emphasis on personality than looks. I made that mistake way too many times for my liking. You and Stumbles are great writers someone should start a writing club here. I felt all the emotions in the story.

Also great details, but, no useless details so didn't drag.
 
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No reason to apologize. It's probably a boring story I just inflicted on everyone so maybe I should be the one to apologize! :laugh:
Very nicely told, thank you. It captured the awkwardness of youth (which in my case stretched past age 20) and how real life is so painfully different from the suave, debonair image we have of ourselves.

That was an amazing story thank you for sharing it. You were a better man than I am even as a teenager, putting more emphasis on personality than looks. I made that mistake way too many times for my liking. You and Stumbles are great writers someone should start a writing club here. I felt all the emotions in the story.
Writing club? This used to be a hockey discussion board. Good God we've all turned into sissies sharing our feeling and emotions. What the hell has happened to us?

I blame the girl for starting it.

That and the fact that there's a long gap between games.

Time to scratch our chests and balls and go back to being men. Talking hockey.
 

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Writing club? This used to be a hockey discussion board. Good God we've all turned into sissies sharing our feeling and emotions. What the hell has happened to us?

I blame the girl for starting it.

That and the fact that there's a long gap between games.

Time to scratch our chests and balls and go back to being men. Talking hockey.

:biglaugh:

Very nicely told, thank you. It captured the awkwardness of youth (which in my case stretched past age 20) and how real life is so painfully different from the suave, debonair image we have of ourselves.

You're welcome. And I'll let you know when my awkward phase has passed :laugh:
 

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Okay, as bullied and promised, here is the 3 sentence non-story padded out. I'm no Ponds when it comes to sharing, but I did proofread and correct my spellings. Life is full of those "what would have happened if" moments. Here's the true version that we don't share with the grands, made as long as possible.

Many, many years ago, I was crossing Balliol College when a sudden downpour began, catching me unprepared with my umbrella rolled up in my briefcase. I rushed to the nearest building and stepped into a large doorway to take shelter and unfurl my brolly. A Google search will show how large most of the doorways are at Balliol.
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So that's the non-story like I said.
That's a lovely tale. She's quite the flirt to go from foxing in the corner to chatting up her next conquest a few minutes later. Many years ago, my dad alluded to mom being far more sexually experienced than him when they met, but she walked into the room and he dropped the subject. I have seen some photos of them from early 70s and she was pretty stunning in some skimpy skirts that got me in trouble when I'd tried to wear something similar in my teens.

I wonder what she saw in you to abandon that relationship and target you? You're quite handsome (even decades later at Bailey's) and a student lawyer would be quite the catch. But you said she was 6'1", I think, so perhaps finding someone of her own stature was the impetus to switch boyfriends.

Thanks for sharing the classic event: how our lives are shaped by a totally random, tiny event.
 
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It did end horribly but was a long time ago. Hindsight and self reflection helped me move past the events as they happened. Jury is still out on the events that could have happened if things went differently.

Not that great of a story, but since at least one person is a glutton for punishment, I'll try to recount as much as I can remember since it was a long time ago and my memory has forgotten some aspects of it.
It was a great story, albeit tragic in such a painful way. We never knew back then that boys were so sensitive or awkward, we just thought that boys were naturally rude and clueless and hadn't fully evolved yet from apes.

I'm going to save your tale for re-reading later. I need to think about it more and reflect on where I was 15 years ago on the social scale.

Thank you very much for sharing it!
 

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It was a great story, albeit tragic in such a painful way. We never knew back then that boys were so sensitive or awkward, we just thought that boys were naturally rude and clueless and hadn't fully evolved yet from apes.

I'm going to save your tale for re-reading later. I need to think about it more and reflect on where I was 15 years ago on the social scale.

Thank you very much for sharing it!

You're welcome. And to be fair, some of us were rude and clueless apes :laugh:

And then there were ones like me. Socially awkward and emotionally aware at times and ignorant other times :biglaugh:

Usually we were the quiet ones no one really noticed. And apparently even when someone does, it's still no guarantee at a positive ending.
 

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Very nicely told, thank you. It captured the awkwardness of youth (which in my case stretched past age 20) and how real life is so painfully different from the suave, debonair image we have of ourselves.


Writing club? This used to be a hockey discussion board. Good God we've all turned into sissies sharing our feeling and emotions. What the hell has happened to us?

I blame the girl for starting it.

That and the fact that there's a long gap between games.

Time to scratch our chests and balls and go back to being men. Talking hockey.
Sure, blame the girl. And go back to scratching, as if you'd ever stopped.

Sharing your feelings and vulnerable moments doesn't undermine your masculinity, it just enhances it. What several of you have written here was not just entertaining, informative stories but it also reveals (to me) why your wives have put up with you for so long. You're far more complex and rounded individuals than the 'grunt & spit' mentality that permeates everything here. If I'm to blame for 'polluting' that culture, then I'll accept that accolade happily.

But yeah, let's focus on hockey. I'm looking at the Predators' last few games and thinking we may have more of a challenge than we want tomorrow night. And it's time I went home. Going from an extended holiday to a full-time job is exhausting.
 

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Sure, blame the girl. And go back to scratching, as if you'd ever stopped.

Sharing your feelings and vulnerable moments doesn't undermine your masculinity, it just enhances it. What several of you have written here was not just entertaining, informative stories but it also reveals (to me) why your wives have put up with you for so long. You're far more complex and rounded individuals than the 'grunt & spit' mentality that permeates everything here. If I'm to blame for 'polluting' that culture, then I'll accept that accolade happily.

But yeah, let's focus on hockey. I'm looking at the Predators' last few games and thinking we may have more of a challenge than we want tomorrow night. And it's time I went home. Going from an extended holiday to a full-time job is exhausting.

Evolution hasn't abandoned us completely. Yet. :D
 

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Sure, blame the girl. And go back to scratching, as if you'd ever stopped.

Sharing your feelings and vulnerable moments doesn't undermine your masculinity, it just enhances it. What several of you have written here was not just entertaining, informative stories but it also reveals (to me) why your wives have put up with you for so long. You're far more complex and rounded individuals than the 'grunt & spit' mentality that permeates everything here. If I'm to blame for 'polluting' that culture, then I'll accept that accolade happily.

But yeah, let's focus on hockey. I'm looking at the Predators' last few games and thinking we may have more of a challenge than we want tomorrow night. And it's time I went home. Going from an extended holiday to a full-time job is exhausting.
Ok this might be a tad embarrassing
I cried last night like a baby , I’m not ashamed of it either.
I was hanging a picture of my mom who recently passed.
I mustered all the courage I could got a small nail and proceeded to hammer in the smallish nail.
1 tap, then another, then my wife called me down the hallway , annoyed I yelled I can’t hear you!!!!
Then the third strike on my finger nail with the hammer.
f*** this hurts…. as tears streamed down my face.
I never felt so vulnerable as I did that moment.
Turns out my wife was simply suggesting I use the 3M easy stick hangers.
Now she tells me.
 

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Ok this might be a tad embarrassing
I cried last night like a baby , I’m not ashamed of it either.
I was hanging a picture of my mom who recently passed.
I mustered all the courage I could got a small nail and proceeded to hammer in the smallish nail.
1 tap, then another, then my wife called me down the hallway , annoyed I yelled I can’t hear you!!!!
Then the third strike on my finger nail with the hammer.
f*** this hurts…. as tears streamed down my face.
I never felt so vulnerable as I did that moment.
Turns out my wife was simply suggesting I use the 3M easy stick hangers.
Now she tells me.
I’m happy you feel free to share this, not that your mom passed. Nothing embarrassing bout that, thanks for sharing.
 

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Many years ago, my dad alluded to mom being far more sexually experienced than him when they met, but she walked into the room and he dropped the subject. I have seen some photos of them from early 70s and she was pretty stunning in some skimpy skirts that got me in trouble when I'd tried to wear something similar in my teens.

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It did end horribly but was a long time ago. Hindsight and self reflection helped me move past the events as they happened. Jury is still out on the events that could have happened if things went differently.

Not that great of a story, but since at least one person is a glutton for punishment, I'll try to recount as much as I can remember since it was a long time ago and my memory has forgotten some aspects of it.

TL/DR: I asked a girl out to the 9th grade grad dance and things didn't work out as I hoped.

Long version. It's a giant wall of text. You have been warned.
This was thirty-something years ago when I was 15 years old. As a kid I was pretty shy, a strange combination of extroverted and introverted: with people I knew well, I could be pretty outgoing but around those I wasn't familiar with, I was quite reserved and quiet.

Early on in my senior year in middle school, the last semester began after the winter break. I arrived late to one particular class, and most of the seats had been filled up already. Scanning the room didn't show many seats nearby nor anyone I really new, so I prompted to sit to the empty desk closest to me. Now perhaps the reason was laziness in not going to an empty desk somewhere in the middle of the class, or perhaps it was subconscious because it was the desk right behind someone I sort of knew; as in, I knew the girl sitting there as we had been classmates since elementary school but never engaged in any sort of social interaction.

Almost as soon as I sat down, she almost immediately turned around and engaged me in conversation. I remember feeling quite puzzled as to why she did that, since we weren't really friends and never had interacted before. My shy personality was present, and I felt quite uncomfortable. The conversation was your typical teenage type of conversation, about school, classes, and what-not.

As time passed, her behaviour shifted slightly, as she began teasing me ever so slightly. Not the mean type of teasing, the term "playful teasing" could likely best be used to describe it. I don't remember much about what exactly she said, but the teasing question "You're my boyfriend, right?" stuck with me all these years later.

I was only 15 and hadn't ever interacted with a girl before, not really much in my previous middle school years nor in elementary. The most I ever had was playing with both boy and girl friends on the school ground or possibly working on assignments or as part of the elementary school patrol. So my inexperience didn't see what she was actually doing. I was very puzzled, and unsure of how to respond.

Her teasing question went on for a long time. I hadn't really considered her in that way before. Yes, she was quite pretty: short brown hair, brown eyes, sweet smile. But growing up I always seemed to place a pretty high value on personality: I couldn't ever see myself with anyone if they didn't have a wonderful personality, and that mattered more to me than looks did.

Somewhere in her teasing, I began to develop a crush on her. I got to know her personality pretty well over the course of her teasing me the 10-15 minutes before that class each day.

The other thing I should mention is that as a kid, I was pretty overweight, and while self-conscious about it, it was always one of those things that was in the back of my mind. Thankfully no one ever made fun of me for it as I recall, but as you get into that awkward teenage years, everything seems more amplified.

So my dilemma became what should I do about this girl, who now I had a crush on, who I thought might have interest, to find my way through my unconscious hang-ups and shyness, to find some path forward?

In retrospect, the answer is pretty easy: throw out a question about hanging out or going to a movie, but 15-year old me was terrified of that possibility. It wasn't so much a fear or rejection, but rather a fear of making a complete fool of myself. As I mentioned, she was quite pretty, and at least in my own self view, I was not very attractive.

My internal debate went on for a long time. Finally, I decided that I had to know where I stood, as the thought of spending the rest of my life wondering what might have been to be more terrifying of making a fool of myself. So I rehearsed a speech for the next day, where I would ask her out to our 9th grade graduation dance.

The day came, and I was more nervous than I had ever been before. The routine started as it always had, and of course she teased me once again, but for whatever reason, I could not get the rehearsed speech out at all. I was way too nervous to start it, and before I knew it, the bell rang and class had begun.

I mentally kicked myself for being too afraid, so I thought I'd try again after class. My mind was too consumed going over the speech once again that I paid little attention to what was going on in class.

However, as fate would have it, the bell rang signaling the end of class, and I chickened out a second time.

I kind of knew where she might be since she had mentioned what her next class was, so I dropped off my books in my locker and tried to time it so that I would pass her on the stairs. And of course, sure enough, as I walked down the stairs, I saw her climbing back up.

My heart began pounding in my chest, and as she passed me, I thought to myself it was now or never. So I called out her name in the form of a question, and spun around. She looked at me a little confused and said "Yeah?".

I had reached the point of no return, and had to continue. But the speech I rehearsed went completely out the window. I was too nervous and if I didn't say anything in that moment, I wouldn't get any words out at all. So I kind of just blurted out whether she wanted to go to grad with me.

She looked pretty confused, and maybe awkward. She told me that she'd have to think about it, maybe that she had planned going with friends. The words were drowned out by the nervousness I felt so I didn't hear much of it.

I think I said something like OK, and turned around and continued walking. I suppose in hindsight I should have said something more, but I guess I barely got the words out the first time, there wasn't anything more I would have been able to say.

As I walked off, I felt relieved. Sure, it wasn't a flat out rejection, might have been a soft rejection even, but I was relieved because it was over and I didn't feel humiliated, so all in all was a positive feeling.

But any positiveness I felt was dashed a few moments later.

As I made my way back to my locker to grab my stuff for the next class, I saw her out of the corner of my eye, talked with a friend of hers. I couldn't hear what was being said, but given what had happened, I figured it must have been because of my asking her out.

I strained to hear while fumbling with stuff in my locker, but couldn't hear anything being said. After she had finished talking, I heard her friend exclaim "Oh my God!". In that moment, I was utterly devastated. It wasn't so much the words but rather the tone in her voice. It was a mixture of clear surprise and disgust. And in that moment, any self confidence I had went completely down the proverbial toilet.

The rest of that day was a haze. There was lots of gossip, and it seemed that everyone whispered and looked in my direction, which made it all the more difficult.

A lot of time passed, and at least the gossip had ceased, but I wasn't in the same mental place I had been prior. Which leads us to the moment that this story was about.

I found myself walking to school that day. It was early summer, and there was only a few more weeks left in school. I spotted her standing in a group on the outside of the school. I couldn't handle any possible interaction, as it would just remind me of how foolish I was, so I tried to make for a different door, but I heard my name called out.

I watched as one of her friends made her way towards me. She was someone the both of us knew from elementary school, and I began to wonder why she was coming towards me. I felt pretty awkward, as I didn't feel quite like having a discussion with anyone at that moment.

Once she finally arrived, she told me that the girl really liked me, and if I were to ask her to grad again, she would say yes. I found myself absolutely stunned at this development. Considering my emotional state, there was no way I would have ever guessed this was actually possible, but it had actually happened.

My mind wandered at the possibilities. I felt like I was in a pivotal moment, that the next few minutes would shape out how my life would unfold. I knew that this was an important moment, and I thought about what I should do. My mind then shifted to thinking about what I might say, what she might say in response, thought about what grade 9 grad would be like and us going together.

Unfortunately for me, I wouldn't have the chance to make a choice. I suddenly became overwhelmed with a raw, primal fear. I felt like someone or something pulled me away, like it was fate intervening and making the choice for me. In retrospect, I think it might have been my fight or flight response kicking in, making me run from whatever perceived danger my subconscious mind thought I was in.

So ultimately, in the end, I walked away, and didn't ask her out after all. It's one of those moments that you wish you could turn back the dial of time on and change but can't.

There's more to the story, but this post is already a giant wall of text, so I'll just end it there. Suffice it to say, we didn't go to the dance together.


Huh. The spoiler tag didn't do what I thought it would. Oh well :laugh:
This is quite the story. Thanks for sharing. I’ve always been intrigued by the what if’s in life. What if I had taken this job instead of that one, etc.

Have you ever looked up this girl to see where she is in life?
 

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Sure, blame the girl. And go back to scratching, as if you'd ever stopped.

Sharing your feelings and vulnerable moments doesn't undermine your masculinity, it just enhances it. What several of you have written here was not just entertaining, informative stories but it also reveals (to me) why your wives have put up with you for so long. You're far more complex and rounded individuals than the 'grunt & spit' mentality that permeates everything here. If I'm to blame for 'polluting' that culture, then I'll accept that accolade happily.

But yeah, let's focus on hockey. I'm looking at the Predators' last few games and thinking we may have more of a challenge than we want tomorrow night. And it's time I went home. Going from an extended holiday to a full-time job is exhausting.
Some people can pass sensitivity training. Some of us are bygones. I cried when my dad died, for 3 days, then I planted my garden for him. I saved it for years, as he suffered through dementia became like an infant again, and at the end I had to feed him, watch him drool on himself, struggling to maintain any dignity, wipe his ass ,pick up a grown man off the floor having repeated strokes. Suffering changes you.

I grew up in an era when feelings didn't matter. There was no mental health. The weakest got beat. So you got tough. Hockey was all about blood. Fighting was a big part of hockey. NHL 93, make em bleed. We played hard, we met up for fights after school. If it wasn't for alcohol I didn't stand a chance with any girl in high school. Luckily there was alcohol, until it almost ended my life.

I lost women I cared about to suicide, drug overdoses. And not to be forgotten, bad decisions. It just hardens you. Life hardens you. It also teaches you. My grandpa was a WW2 vet, I only saw him cry once in his life, drinking with friends and family talking about the war. Those men saw things that were unconscionable. My grandpa was part of the Allied army that entered Auschwitz.

Women might like sensitive men, but you have to be careful who show your weakness to, because some will exploit them. In the end you just carry on, be yourself, because no one else can be you.
 
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